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Bruddah IZ
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President Ronald Reagan noted, “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. … It must be fought for, protected and handed on [to our children] to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like … where men were free”.
“Show me your papers” is only ever merely the beginning. Vaccine passports, the limiting of certain rights to only those who are vaccinated, the freedom of movement and the ability to travel unimpeded, the ability to remain gainfully employed and to provide for one’s family–by their very nature, the restrictive systems being adopted by the Australian government, our various states, and many of our country’s business leaders are inherently discriminatory, for they will, in no uncertain terms, serve to exclude members of our community from participating fully in our society.
“Show me your papers” is only ever merely the beginning. Vaccine passports, the limiting of certain rights to only those who are vaccinated, the freedom of movement and the ability to travel unimpeded, the ability to remain gainfully employed and to provide for one’s family–by their very nature, the restrictive systems being adopted by the Australian government, our various states, and many of our country’s business leaders are inherently discriminatory, for they will, in no uncertain terms, serve to exclude members of our community from participating fully in our society.
ok.. that is hilarious!
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
It's been what, like 25 yrs and I still miss this strip.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Perfect candidate for the A-ISM.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Today the risk of death from COVID-19 for children and most vaccinated adults is no greater than other routine risks we accept in our daily lives without thought. Fewer than 500 American children under 17 have died from the disease since the start of the pandemic, while a few thousand die in car accidents each year. For children and vaccinated adults, the New York Times recently summarized the situation by writing, “For the vast majority of people, the virus resembled a typical flu, rarely causing serious illness.” However, the incentives of health bureaucrats will be to continue to propagandize us by inflating the risk in order to maintain their own authority, prestige, and budgets.
For example, the federal mask mandate on airplanes that was set to expire on Sept. 13 has been extended to Jan. 18, despite the low risk of severe cases for most Americans. Although the Delta variant undoubtedly played a role in that decision, we should be concerned that health bureaucrats will frighten Americans with new variants to get us to continue to accept their “inconveniences” based on false claims of the safety they provide — much as the TSA has done with terrorism over the last 20 years.--Ben Powell
For example, the federal mask mandate on airplanes that was set to expire on Sept. 13 has been extended to Jan. 18, despite the low risk of severe cases for most Americans. Although the Delta variant undoubtedly played a role in that decision, we should be concerned that health bureaucrats will frighten Americans with new variants to get us to continue to accept their “inconveniences” based on false claims of the safety they provide — much as the TSA has done with terrorism over the last 20 years.--Ben Powell
Bruddah IZ
DA
Natural immunity to covid is powerful. Policymakers seem afraid to say so. People making decisions about their health deserve honesty from their leaders.
So, the emerging science suggests that natural immunity is as good as or better than vaccine-induced immunity. That’s why it’s so frustrating that the Biden administration has repeatedly argued that immunity conferred by vaccines is preferable to immunity caused by natural infection, as NIH director Francis Collins told Fox News host told Bret Baier a few weeks ago. That rigid adherence to an outdated theory is also reflected in President Biden’s recent announcement that large companies must require their employees to get vaccinated or submit to regular testing, regardless of whether they previously had the virus.
Downplaying the power of natural immunity has had deadly consequences. In January, February and March, we wasted scarce vaccine doses on millions of people who previously had covid. If we had asked Americans who were already protected by natural immunity to step aside in the vaccine line, tens of thousands of lives could have been saved. This is not just in hindsight is 20/20; many of us were vehemently arguing and writing at the time for such a rationing strategy.
So, the emerging science suggests that natural immunity is as good as or better than vaccine-induced immunity. That’s why it’s so frustrating that the Biden administration has repeatedly argued that immunity conferred by vaccines is preferable to immunity caused by natural infection, as NIH director Francis Collins told Fox News host told Bret Baier a few weeks ago. That rigid adherence to an outdated theory is also reflected in President Biden’s recent announcement that large companies must require their employees to get vaccinated or submit to regular testing, regardless of whether they previously had the virus.
Downplaying the power of natural immunity has had deadly consequences. In January, February and March, we wasted scarce vaccine doses on millions of people who previously had covid. If we had asked Americans who were already protected by natural immunity to step aside in the vaccine line, tens of thousands of lives could have been saved. This is not just in hindsight is 20/20; many of us were vehemently arguing and writing at the time for such a rationing strategy.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Dr. Gottlieb is much kinder to his friends and former colleagues at the FDA. My view is that the FDA shares in the failure. The FDA does not have authority over laboratory-developed tests, so in ordinary times a lab can develop a test without seeking FDA approval. But the FDA, using the Covid-19 emergency as a pretext, asserted that any SARS-CoV-2 test needed its approval before it could be deployed. Thus the logic of emergency was inverted. Instead of lifting regulations and giving priority to speed, the FDA increased regulation and slowed test deployment.
‘Uncontrolled Spread’ Review: Tested and Found Wanting
One general lesson that I draw from facts such as this one is about the unfortunate but largely unalterable reality of government. Government has a nature no less than does any virus. It’s therefore not only pointless, but dangerous because distracting, to make declarations about what interventions government ‘should’ have pursued, and should pursue in the future, to better protect us from contagious pathogens as if government’s nature is amenable to good intentions expressed by persons adequately informed about science. Much of the disagreement among people about Covid policy springs from the different assessments different people make about the amount of knowledge to which government can reasonably be supposed to have access and the ability to process, and about the likelihood that government officials will act in the public interest when acting in this manner runs against these officials’ own interests. If our earthly affairs were governed by a supernatural power akin in both knowledge and motivation to the Christian God, then even I would trust this power with the authority to lock humanity down if and whenever this power deemed such a move to be the best. But of course the state is a power categorically and dramatically inferior on all dimensions to any such supernatural power. While no one directly and expressly denies the truth of the previous sentence, a shockingly large number of people endorse government policies as if the previous sentence were untrue. Among the many surprises of the past 18 months has been the number of people who, pre-Covid, understood that the state is not a godlike institution, but who, once Covid appeared, joined ranks with those who believe that the state is both capable of being, and eager to be, godlike.)
‘Uncontrolled Spread’ Review: Tested and Found Wanting
One general lesson that I draw from facts such as this one is about the unfortunate but largely unalterable reality of government. Government has a nature no less than does any virus. It’s therefore not only pointless, but dangerous because distracting, to make declarations about what interventions government ‘should’ have pursued, and should pursue in the future, to better protect us from contagious pathogens as if government’s nature is amenable to good intentions expressed by persons adequately informed about science. Much of the disagreement among people about Covid policy springs from the different assessments different people make about the amount of knowledge to which government can reasonably be supposed to have access and the ability to process, and about the likelihood that government officials will act in the public interest when acting in this manner runs against these officials’ own interests. If our earthly affairs were governed by a supernatural power akin in both knowledge and motivation to the Christian God, then even I would trust this power with the authority to lock humanity down if and whenever this power deemed such a move to be the best. But of course the state is a power categorically and dramatically inferior on all dimensions to any such supernatural power. While no one directly and expressly denies the truth of the previous sentence, a shockingly large number of people endorse government policies as if the previous sentence were untrue. Among the many surprises of the past 18 months has been the number of people who, pre-Covid, understood that the state is not a godlike institution, but who, once Covid appeared, joined ranks with those who believe that the state is both capable of being, and eager to be, godlike.)
Bruddah IZ
DA
It's been more than that since SARS-1 and MERS made a compelling case for not employing grossly disproportionate NPI/SIP mandates.
Desert Hound
DA
So how does that cartoon above tie into to the fact that the mayor put rules in place that she herself doesn't follow?
Hmm?
Or is that cartoon your way of telling us that our leaders can make rules they don't have to follow?
Do us a favor.
Try to have an actual conversation or a comment that actually leads to any kind of discussion.
Bruddah IZ
DA
One of the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration
EvilGoalie 21
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SARS-1 first ID early 2000 something; MERS first ID 2012. So no.
Who said any of us support London Breed?
She is far to the left of anyone here. Shouldn’t she be busy trying to rename Lincoln Park or extending Calpers benefits to homeless people?
However, the masks still reduce covid transmissibility, and she should have been wearing one.
I like this kid
You a dumb dumb
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Evidently, she didn't get the notice about "the city's streets resembling one big outdoor party." Combine that with "equality-focused embrace of the cannabis industry." and it sounds like paradise. Pass the dutchie on the left-hand side, @dad4. No fun police here. Although, I do wonder if passing the dutchie violates any COVID protocol. Maybe we should stick with the edibles. Based on my most recent stop in the city to get gas, I recommend a cannabis focus versus alcohol. Finding a public toilet was no small task. I mean, I could have just done what the local natives appear to do but I wasn't ready to party like that.
Time Out lists the 'world's best' cities for 2021
Cultural hubs like Amsterdam and New York feature in Time Out's top 10, but which city is top of the global media company's round-up?
www.cnn.com
Desert Hound
DA
I have accused you of a variety of things. Usual panic porn.
I have not accused you of supporting London Breed.
I was however telling espola that his cartoon had nothing to do with the fact that the mayor put in place rules she refuses to follow.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
The time stamp on this indicates the sun must have just been barely cracking the horizon and yet Crush already sounds cranky. That's the problem with those healing feel good endorphins, they never last. Imagine what a better world it would be if their circulating half life was a little bit longer. Or maybe the Wallace paint didn't wash off completely and you have to go meet somebody. Anyway, when it comes to spelling, grammar, syntax in social media posting, I'm generally like whatever. Some future Jared Diamond will be sifting through that digital midden pile thinking to themself, "The only problem with studying this societal collapse is that it's just too easy to understand". Still, even with the water swirling in the bowl, I can't help but think that if you're going to go with dumb dumb you should use a verb.