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Grace T. said:
Yes, some of the law offices are open but the ones I know that are open are on a "flex" schedule. You can come in if you have an essential purpose, or there's a rotation schedule in place, but I'm not aware of any of the large ones being fully open (mostly just the smaller ones). It's the same with the talent agencies BTW.
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Maybe some places are doing flex schedules because they are good business decisions. If some aspects of remote work were effective and beneficial for the goals of the business, why not incorporate the good?
 
Desert Hound said:
If you think I am arguing AGAINST vaccinations you are incorrect.

They (the countries) are however vaxxed and move on. They are NOT mandating vaccines which is something I am strongly against. The first main reason is we don't have any long term data on potential bad side affects. It is irresponsible to mandate vaxes to everyone when you don't know if there are at risk people who would be better off not taking the vax.

So I am not arguing against the vax.

I am pointing out however that countries are starting to move on. In the case of the US the at risk groups have been vaxxed at a very high rate.

They talk about 80-100 million people not being vaxxed in the US. I would lay money a rather large percentage of those already have antibodies against the virus. Another large percentage are the young who have no risk of covid.
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My point is that a key KPI for them is vaccinations, not testing everyone to see if they've had it or not.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Tools is plural yes? That includes monoclonals, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquines, etc. Yes? Or is that too liberal for you?
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Note the word legitimate in front of tools. I would not include ivermectin or hydroxy chloroquine among treatments that have been proven to be effective.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
If you believe mask work. And they don’t. That’s why CA. Leads the nation in total deaths and total cases.
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Total deaths and cases are going to be higher in California than some other states because we have a much larger population. Entire states have populations equivalent to some of our cities. But you know that. If you want to compare impact of having tools like vaccines, then comparisons over time are also informative.
 
Roadrunner said:
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Maybe some places are doing flex schedules because they are good business decisions. If some aspects of remote work were effective and beneficial for the goals of the business, why not incorporate the good?
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That flex schedule would look like…come and go if you need to but you only really need to be here for mandatory meetings including all department meetings. This looks like: we need to keep capacity numbers down so only come in on your assigned times and no meetings…if you remain anxious you are welcome to stay home.
 
Roadrunner said:
Note the word legitimate in front of tools. I would not include ivermectin or hydroxy chloroquine among treatments that have been proven to be effective.
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If we're talking proven tools against Cov-2 don't forgot one of these babies. Once the goosenecks meet in the middle you know you're cured. Little petroleum jelly and good to go.

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Grace T. said:
I think there’s reasonable room for disagreement if under 30 or have had. Idon’t think there’s a whole lot of room for disagreement if neither condition met.
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I'm not sure who you are reasonably disagreeing with tbh, but in the absence of mandatory testing for anyone not vaccinated 16+, which nobody is doing to my knowledge, the consensus of disparate governments, based on their independent medical advice, is vaccinate 16+. England and Sweden have been touted by you, and others, as a good/better approach and I am just pointing out that their approach is predicated on a vaccination strategy 16+, which they appear to be very successful at, and more power to them.
 
Roadrunner said:
Total deaths and cases are going to be higher in California than some other states because we have a much larger population. Entire states have populations equivalent to some of our cities. But you know that. If you want to compare impact of having tools like vaccines, then comparisons over time are also informative.
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Those comparisons never involved mandated NPI/SPI’s.
 
whatithink said:
I'm not sure who you are reasonably disagreeing with tbh, but in the absence of mandatory testing for anyone not vaccinated 16+, which nobody is doing to my knowledge, the consensus of disparate governments, based on their independent medical advice, is vaccinate 16+. England and Sweden have been touted by you, and others, as a good/better approach and I am just pointing out that their approach is predicated on a vaccination strategy 16+, which they appear to be very successful at, and more power to them.
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I agree....I just think there should be an exemption if you can prove you've had it.
 
crush said:
Hey sleepy head. Only 4 hours of sleep? Drinking again? Dad, please get some help. Your 4 kids need you, not the forum.
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Man Crush, why do you got to take it personal? I'm not sure what's worse, the Qanon folks or the their enablers (you know who you are).
 
dad4 said:
I am not saying that people won’t cheat on the rules. Clearly, they do.

I am saying what the hell is wrong with you people. We have 650,000 people dead from this, and people are still trying to find ways and excuses to avoid doing their part to help.
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Some people are always looking for excuses. trump is a standard bearer for them. They will deny him while expounding on ideas exclusive to him and his ilk. Interesting combination of denial and strict loyalty. “But he’s not president anymore! TRUMP 2024!”
 
dad4 said:
Not so bad as that. Woke up at 3 am, noticed son was playing minecraft way after curfew. stayed up extra 1/2 hour to make sure he actually fell asleep and didn’t just wait me out.

Then crashed again. like now.
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I let my son play all night long and I slept like big baby. I woke at 3:05am this morning and the moon was staying at me in the face with a message. I felt the true love of mother earth and fell back to sleep until now. These videos games are destroying boys before they can become warriors, moo! My son now blames me for enabling him all those years with games for Christmas. I kid you not dad, kid is now taking on how I parented him. His pal quit the Army because it was way to hard on him.
 
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