Occam's Razor does not like "maybes".
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Bruddah IZ
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Shocking isn't it?
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LA County is cancelling its absurd new mask mandate. Thank you to all who fought back.
Earlier this week the cities of Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Long Beach, El Segundo, and Manhattan Beach announced they would refuse to enforce Barbara Ferrer’s order. And just moments ago, Ferrer backtracked and cancelled it.
This is the turning point we’ve been working towards. It effectively stops Newsom from issuing another statewide mandate, eager as he might be to do so.
It’s reminiscent of when my home school district, Roseville Joint Union, passed a Resolution to ignore Newsom’s school mask mandate. Neighboring districts followed suit and it snowballed from there; humiliated, Newsom was forced to rescind the order.
It’s also similar to our triumph over his student vaccine mandate. After we stopped Senator Pan’s mandate bill, I called for Newsom to rescind his own Executive Order. Hours later, he did just that – a major embarrassment after months of showcasing the “first in the nation” mandate.
Notably, the current resistance is happening in some of the bluest parts of the state. In Long Beach, Democrats outnumber Republicans 144,000 to 44,000.
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Earlier this week the cities of Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Long Beach, El Segundo, and Manhattan Beach announced they would refuse to enforce Barbara Ferrer’s order. And just moments ago, Ferrer backtracked and cancelled it.
This is the turning point we’ve been working towards. It effectively stops Newsom from issuing another statewide mandate, eager as he might be to do so.
It’s reminiscent of when my home school district, Roseville Joint Union, passed a Resolution to ignore Newsom’s school mask mandate. Neighboring districts followed suit and it snowballed from there; humiliated, Newsom was forced to rescind the order.
It’s also similar to our triumph over his student vaccine mandate. After we stopped Senator Pan’s mandate bill, I called for Newsom to rescind his own Executive Order. Hours later, he did just that – a major embarrassment after months of showcasing the “first in the nation” mandate.
Notably, the current resistance is happening in some of the bluest parts of the state. In Long Beach, Democrats outnumber Republicans 144,000 to 44,000.
*Sign up below and I’ll update you on our fight to end all mandates
LA County cancels mask mandate in face of opposition
JULY 28, 2022 LA County is cancelling its absurd new mask mandate. Thank you to all who fought back. Earlier this week the cities of Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Long Beach, El Segundo, and Manhattan Beach announced they would refuse to enforce Barbara Ferrer's order. And just moments ago, Ferrer...
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Occam's Razor, at least in the philosophical realm, is sloppy reasoning. It's easily countered by the possibility postulate (also known as the Laura Flynn Boyle)
Witness: "The dog was happy because it got a treat"
LFB: "But you also walked in at that moment?"
W: "Yes"
LFB: "Is it possible the dog was happy to see you?"
W: "I had just given him his favorite treat. He hadn't eaten all day."
LFB: "That's not what I'm asking you. You've lived with him for years...he's your companion and friend. I'm asking you if he might have been happy to see you when you walked through that door. Is it possible?"
W: "Yes, it is possible".
LFB: "Thank you, no further questions."
No, it's not.
LA County is cancelling its absurd new mask mandate. Thank you to all who fought back.
Earlier this week the cities of Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Long Beach, El Segundo, and Manhattan Beach announced they would refuse to enforce Barbara Ferrer’s order. And just moments ago, Ferrer backtracked and cancelled it.
This is the turning point we’ve been working towards. It effectively stops Newsom from issuing another statewide mandate, eager as he might be to do so.
It’s reminiscent of when my home school district, Roseville Joint Union, passed a Resolution to ignore Newsom’s school mask mandate. Neighboring districts followed suit and it snowballed from there; humiliated, Newsom was forced to rescind the order.
It’s also similar to our triumph over his student vaccine mandate. After we stopped Senator Pan’s mandate bill, I called for Newsom to rescind his own Executive Order. Hours later, he did just that – a major embarrassment after months of showcasing the “first in the nation” mandate.
Notably, the current resistance is happening in some of the bluest parts of the state. In Long Beach, Democrats outnumber Republicans 144,000 to 44,000.
*Sign up below and I’ll update you on our fight to end all mandates
LA County cancels mask mandate in face of opposition
JULY 28, 2022 LA County is cancelling its absurd new mask mandate. Thank you to all who fought back. Earlier this week the cities of Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Long Beach, El Segundo, and Manhattan Beach announced they would refuse to enforce Barbara Ferrer's order. And just moments ago, Ferrer...blog.electkevinkiley.com
The next fight is actually whether schools will reopen at all or with heavy testing requirements still in place.
Ferrer was only willing to commit at the meeting that she's "hopeful that schools will open".
Declining enrollment clobbers California’s schools
BY DAN WALTERS APRIL 26, 2022
This month, the state Department of Education reported that for the first time in many years, enrollment had dropped below 6 million.
The slow erosion in enrollment that began a half-decade ago stemmed from demographic factors, such as virtually no growth, or even a decline, in the state’s overall population, lower birthrates and an outflow of people, including children, to other states.
In the last two years, school closures due to COVID-19 accelerated enrollment losses but the resumption of in-classroom instruction did not stem the hemorrhage. “Enrollment is down from 6,002,523 in 2020–21 to 5,892,240 in 2021–22, a decrease of more than 110,000 students and 1.8% from the prior year,” the state Department of Education reported. “ This follows a steady decline in public school enrollment statewide since 2014–15.”
The data trends indicate that the state’s schools will continue to see enrollment declines for the foreseeable future and that creates a financial dilemma for local school districts since the state provides most of their money and aid based on attendance.
https://calmatters.org/commentary/2022/04/declining-enrollment-clobbers-californias-schools/
Anyone else wondering why Newsom has not giving up his emergency powers yet? He may still have some tricks up his sleeve.LA County is cancelling its absurd new mask mandate. Thank you to all who fought back.
Earlier this week the cities of Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Long Beach, El Segundo, and Manhattan Beach announced they would refuse to enforce Barbara Ferrer’s order. And just moments ago, Ferrer backtracked and cancelled it.
This is the turning point we’ve been working towards. It effectively stops Newsom from issuing another statewide mandate, eager as he might be to do so.
It’s reminiscent of when my home school district, Roseville Joint Union, passed a Resolution to ignore Newsom’s school mask mandate. Neighboring districts followed suit and it snowballed from there; humiliated, Newsom was forced to rescind the order.
It’s also similar to our triumph over his student vaccine mandate. After we stopped Senator Pan’s mandate bill, I called for Newsom to rescind his own Executive Order. Hours later, he did just that – a major embarrassment after months of showcasing the “first in the nation” mandate.
Notably, the current resistance is happening in some of the bluest parts of the state. In Long Beach, Democrats outnumber Republicans 144,000 to 44,000.
*Sign up below and I’ll update you on our fight to end all mandates
LA County cancels mask mandate in face of opposition
JULY 28, 2022 LA County is cancelling its absurd new mask mandate. Thank you to all who fought back. Earlier this week the cities of Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Long Beach, El Segundo, and Manhattan Beach announced they would refuse to enforce Barbara Ferrer's order. And just moments ago, Ferrer...blog.electkevinkiley.com
I would be amazed if schools anywhere in CA closed this fall. It would be political suicide.
Any "open schools" announcement requires help from CTA, so they can't commit to it without a union rep in support. But that's different from saying the board is actually thinking of cancelling the first day of school.
EvilGoalie 21
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What is this "philosophical realm"? Anyway, the whole Occam Razor thing seems to me to be of limited utility. Even narrowly applied, the cynic in me says its a great way to kill a strawman. Remember, you brought it up. The parsimony biscuit can only lead to puppy acting out and exhibiting poor behaviors. IMO, Pavlov would have been the better way to go.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
For the first paper, which is the least useful one, but has drawn the most media attention, I'm guessing if you put "who" in all caps like Crush that might be close for at least some of it. If you're more serious, the most relevant parts with respect to what you are asking for will be in supplementary files. For the first paper that is here.
Science | AAAS
www.science.org
Underlying methodology for the second paper is here.
Science | AAAS
www.science.org
My point in bringing up these works earlier in the context of Occam's razor (my God, the places we go) is precisely that as origin stories they are non-definitive. No smooth shaves. Switching the metaphor, short of a smoking gun-a term that itself came from the JFK investigation if I have it right-that is how it will always be. But I thought I'd dig the links up for you anyway because it might be a worthwhile excercise to go "my ifs, ands, and buts are such and such". It would be easy to do. These papers could easily be "shot them" down on provenance, limitations of approach, on the merits, etc. And then go, OK, how would I address/prove/or falsify this. Or you could save yourself most of the trouble and read the blurb article from Nature back when the papers were still preprints. Have fun with it.
Wuhan market was epicentre of pandemic’s start, studies suggest
Report authors say that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 jumped to people from animals sold at the market on two occasions in late 2019 — but some scientists want more definitive evidence.
www.nature.com
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
I'm curious how the data was obtained. Nothing else matters if the data isn't legitimate. In general, the Chinese government was not willing to allow independent investigations. So, who provided the data? It seems like a simple question. The answer - to steal an @dad4 phrase - appears to be word salad.For the first paper, which is the least useful one, but has drawn the most media attention, I'm guessing if you put "who" in all caps like Crush that might be close for at least some of it. If you're more serious, the most relevant parts with respect to what you are asking for will be in supplementary files. For the first paper that is here.
Science | AAAS
Underlying methodology for the second paper is here.
Science | AAAS
My point in bringing up these works earlier in the context of Occam's razor (my God, the places we go) is precisely that as origin stories they are non-definitive. No smooth shaves. Switching the metaphor, short of a smoking gun-a term that itself came from the JFK investigation if I have it right-that is how it will always be. But I thought I'd dig the links up for you anyway because it might be a worthwhile excercise to go "my ifs, ands, and buts are such and such". It would be easy to do. These papers could easily be "shot them" down on provenance, limitations of approach, on the merits, etc. And then go, OK, how would I address/prove/or falsify this. Or you could save yourself most of the trouble and read the blurb article from Nature back when the papers were still preprints. Have fun with it.
Wuhan market was epicentre of pandemic’s start, studies suggest
Report authors say that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 jumped to people from animals sold at the market on two occasions in late 2019 — but some scientists want more definitive evidence.
Gen. Flynn***
"Now that Biden has COVID again & knows he is contagious even after 4 shots, he has absolutely zero moral authority to force a needle into anyone serving in our military, any & all federal employees, absolutely every single medical worker nationwide, & all foreign visitors. It is an outrage that this vax lie continues. Our nation’s security is at the highest risk levels we’ve been at in decades due to the sheer abuse by this WH & THE WEF elites. “We won’t be fooled again
"Now that Biden has COVID again & knows he is contagious even after 4 shots, he has absolutely zero moral authority to force a needle into anyone serving in our military, any & all federal employees, absolutely every single medical worker nationwide, & all foreign visitors. It is an outrage that this vax lie continues. Our nation’s security is at the highest risk levels we’ve been at in decades due to the sheer abuse by this WH & THE WEF elites. “We won’t be fooled again
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
The links will tell you where the data came from. But it sounds like you've already answered your own question.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
Sounds like capture the flag. Always liked that back in the summer camp days. Bit of a William Golding vibe but no harm done.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
No, I haven't, but someone posted elsewhere, "Chinese CDC". Is that correct?
Anecdotally including Biden I’m aware of no less than 10 bounce back cases on paxlovid. It seems to be quite common. Except for high risk cases (like Biden) they really need to pause it until they can do proper studies on either extending or upping the dose. If you are young and healthy there is zero reason to be on paxlovid and it’s possible we are just encouraging resistance. But they won’t do it because of $$$.