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No the masks work. Those infections came from people going to a restaurant or bar.
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The experts, in this case, are CDC, NIH, university epidemiologists, and county health officials.
City health advisors in LA county, in most cases, do not count.
For most cities, the advisor was hired for the sole purpose of helping the city opt out of county rules.
So, when they later issue some statement in favor of opting out, this has no weight. They're just saying what they were hired to say.
My friend has been working for her particular city for close to 5 years now and was one of the biggest pro mask advocates around early on (to keep kids in school in the fall of 2020) but go on....cling to your religious beliefs....with every word you just prove my ongoing point about you: you believe the establishment experts you agree with are the "experts"....everyone else is a snake oil salesman, regardless of their credentials.
Deaths per 100K:
Japan: 25
Arizona: 423
What makes you think Japan needs your advice on this matter?
You remembered the religious accusations, but forgot to include some kind of Catholic slur.
Saint Dad4, Virgin Mary, or some such.
You're losing your touch.
She was right about masks and schools, btw. Different argument with BA.5, because R is so high.
As a former Catholic, I resemble that remark. They always are most bitter about the apostates (if you see yourself resembling that remark, I assure you its entirely on purpose).
It's funny you make your own argument against yourself. Rather than make the argument "masks used to work really well" but the R got so high, you choose to die on the cloth mask hill now. How many angels are dancing on that particular pin please?
Every mystery and everything we need to know why were here is under the Vatican. Some day everything that has been hidden will be reveled. All will be exposed for all to see. Were all 100% innocent ((Just like Andy Dufresne from Shawshank)). We have been lied to by Science Magicians and Health liars. They also use religion to divide us and then start fucking wars to send our kids to bleed out on the battle field. I promise all will be shown to us, if we make it.......lol. Were dealing with "The Mr. Evil" and I don't say that lightly. I love you Grace T.
Going for all the hits today? Now the correlation does not equal causation fallacy?
In any case, when you've even lost the pro-lockdown, pro-mask LA Times, it's time to move on
A new L.A. mask mandate would have less value at this stage of the pandemic, some experts say
Despite plans to reinstate a mask mandate in Los Angeles County, the value of widespread masking isn't what it used to be.
www.latimes.com
Going for all the hits today? Now the correlation does not equal causation fallacy?
In any case, when you've even lost the pro-lockdown, pro-mask LA Times, it's time to move on
A new L.A. mask mandate would have less value at this stage of the pandemic, some experts say
Despite plans to reinstate a mask mandate in Los Angeles County, the value of widespread masking isn't what it used to be.
And just like that LA stands down on it's mask mandate
"Now his failure is complete"
Going for all the hits today? Now the correlation does not equal causation fallacy?
In any case, when you've even lost the pro-lockdown, pro-mask LA Times, it's time to move on
A new L.A. mask mandate would have less value at this stage of the pandemic, some experts say
Despite plans to reinstate a mask mandate in Los Angeles County, the value of widespread masking isn't what it used to be.
So, when you point to a single Japanese data point, it's valid. When I reply with a different Japanese data point, it's a logical fallacy?
I'd love to hear your explanation for why your single day, single country snapshot is more relevant than the cumulative data for the exact same country.
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Cloth? Upgrade.
I just think that, on balance, a 30% reduction to R is worth the inconvenience of masks.
R0 is high for BA-5, but Rt isn't. If Rt were high, you'd see sewer numbers doubling every day or two. Around here, they are flat, if not falling.
You know how the causation fallacy works no....it's easier to disprove the negative.
If I claim masks work, but then cases are skyrocketing in the place where I chose as an example, it's a clear example of how masks don't work, at least under said broad definition, so now I have to explain away why.
If I claim cases are low because of masks, however, that's a fallacy because something else might have caused it.
Similarly, if I claim treats work to keep dogs happy, if my dog is grumpy after I've given him a treat, it goes to show that treats do not in fact work to keep dogs happy because there is a clear exception...I now have to qualify my statement somehow (in the afternoon, after a nap, only corgis etc).
But if I claim my dog is happy because I gave him a treat, that is not necessarily the case because my dog may be happy for other reasons, and not just the treat. Now, you can argue that the most obvious reason why the dog is happy is because I just gave him a treat (using Occam's razor) but I can also argue he's happy because I just walked through the door.
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Pfizer and the FDA aren't in a good spot with paxlovid. Tjhe rebound makes it a tricky RX - 5 days, relapse then how many more days? Tricky indeed. Trials halted on standard risk people since it didn't show much benefit. Drug resistancy is not a good thing but appears to be the case. We will see.
Have monoclonal antibodies fallen out of favor, if so why? Efficacy? Pfizer has a greater influence on the powers that be?
Only anecdotal, but those I know that received monoclonal antibodies swear by them. Although if I'm remembering correctly that was to treat Delta. Maybe because Omicron isn't very serious monoclonals are unnecessary?
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Hold it. You give your dog treats using Occam's razor?
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A few reasons (there are other reasons). They are logistically more of a challenge to administer. They aren't very effective against Omicron and variants. They were extremely effective early on. The FDA has taken them off the table.
From a $$ POV pills are easier to produce and easier to prescribe/take.