Vaccine

The Rubicon has just been crossed politically. Trump's Mar Largo residence was raided by the FBI. If the GOP ever take the presidency again (particularly if it's DeSantis) they'll wholesale purge the FBI. Like Latin American Republics, each ingoing admin will use the legal infrastructure to punish (even deservedly so) the outgoing admin. As in Latin America, political contests become existential threats to the politicians because they determine who is going to jail.

Assuming Biden lives long enough, if the Rs win 2024 they are totally turning the Hunter situation against him. If true, they will turn the covering of Joe Biden's mental state and possible dementia against those around him.

The Latin Americanization of US politics is here.
Why is this in the vaccine thread?
 
Wasn't the head of the FBI appointed by Trump? I mean was Biden even involved in any of this? Something doesn't smell right. Either they have a slam dunk reason to do this, or it's a setup against the dems.
They have a search warrant issued by a Federal Judge. That means the FBI/DOJ swore an affidavit that there was probable cause of finding evidence of a crime.
 
Trump doesn’t exactly make life long friends with former appointees but it doesn’t have to be the fbi…ultimate approval comes from garland (who’ll you’ll recall may still be smarting from being denied the Supreme Court and who cooperated with the teachers unions against the school board protestors). Unless it’s a set up by garland that’s unlikely.

it may very well be a slam dunk. I hope for the country’s sake it is. Because if it is anything short of that certain events are now locked:

-trump barring illness or death or conviction or some grand deal with desantis is going to be the Republican nominee
-the doj will indict and arrest trump for something to justify this
-the republicans the next time they win the presidency will gut the three letter agencies and it will be a litmus test for anyone running. The ds will react in unknown ways at the current time.
-barring a major incident at this point the house is locked for the rs. The only question is the margin.
-biden if he doesn’t resign will be impeached. There will be a criminal referral out of the house for hunter.
-impeachment and criminal investigation will be used as political weapons in the future

they didn’t go after Clinton for perjury. They didn’t go after bush for the Iraq shenanigans. They didn’t go after Hillary for the emails and classified information. They haven’t gone after hunter. They haven’t raided the Epstein pedos or published the list. They better have the goods this time for everyone sake And it better not be something like mishandling classified info or the national archives.
Mishandling classified info is a serious federal crime.
 
Mishandling classified info is a serious federal crime.
One which is rarely ever raided let alone prosecuted or the list of high profile people in jail would be long. That one won’t stick. It would have to be something like bullet proof proof that he sent secrets to Russia.
They have a search warrant issued by a Federal Judge. That means the FBI/DOJ swore an affidavit that there was probable cause of finding evidence of a crime.
You know as well as I do the judge doesn’t look at the veracity of the claims made only a pleading. It’s a rubber stamp. The more compelling sign is that it would have to be approved by Garland himself given that this action against a former president is unprecedented. He better have the goods this time.
 
Why is this in the vaccine thread?
Meh it’s the conclusion of the same story that started with the pandemic and derailed an easy trump victory. It all flows from that. But for one there isn’t the other. Plus this thread has covered everything from religion to dining to climate change.
 
One which is rarely ever raided let alone prosecuted or the list of high profile people in jail would be long. That one won’t stick. It would have to be something like bullet proof proof that he sent secrets to Russia.

You know as well as I do the judge doesn’t look at the veracity of the claims made only a pleading. It’s a rubber stamp. The more compelling sign is that it would have to be approved by Garland himself given that this action against a former president is unprecedented. He better have the goods this time.
Don't worry. You will find ways to deny it, just like you are starting with here.
 
Meh it’s the conclusion of the same story that started with the pandemic and derailed an easy trump victory. It all flows from that. But for one there isn’t the other. Plus this thread has covered everything from religion to dining to climate change.
You could always start an appropriate off-topic thread about the search warrant.
 
They have a search warrant issued by a Federal Judge. That means the FBI/DOJ swore an affidavit that there was probable cause of finding evidence of a crime.

Oh man

Did the the FBI pinky swear as well?

Did this reach the highest levels of the FBI and DOJ?

never heard this before
 
So you admit you won't make an effort to save democracy.

I vote !

Now if saving democracy means hyperventilating over everything Trump has done the last 6 years , well I guess I just fall short on that requirement

Even though I know the FBI/DoJ just has had an impeccable record( especially regarding Trump) and should be trusted no questions asked . I’d like to see the goods on raiding a former President”s residence over classified materials , that as president he could have declassified
 

Sachs lays out his argument more completely here.

ttps://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2202769119

He is absolutely correct IMO in calling for openness in the funding history between American and Chinese coronavirus researchers. Completely reasonable. Although, if you've ever read through one of these funding applications, short of them saying "lets change the genome backbone we've been working with for 10 years to this new thing" I doubt it would produce anything definitive.

The problem with Sachs IMO is that, although he nuances it in academic speak, he basically accuses this guy, Daszak, along with his Chinese collaborators of engineering Cov2. It's really quite specific. Sachs initially appointed Daszak as head of his much heralded Lancet origins committee. Tensions within the committee have been well described. Some of Sachs' points-like the "what about the three deleted genome sequences" have turned out to be mostly duds (when you delete something from the internet it's never really gone). And the read he places on the FOIA material liberated by the Intercept-once you actually read it-doesn't really mesh well with what he takes it to mean. Sachs always comes back to is the furrin cleavage site as evidence of engineering, specifically Daszak/EcoAlliance engineering. Yet it is now clear that these cleavage sites (which potentiate activation of the spike protein for infection) are widespread in naturally occurring Cviruses. In the PNAS article I linked at the top in the sequence line up for his Figure 1 he only adds the SARS Cov2 FCS to make it appear that the FCS is completely unique. That's disingenuous and Sachs knows it, or should know it. So he loses some credibility for me.

Manmade construction of this virus is definitely possible. History is important so might as well keep looking for that evidence, since at this point nothing else will be dispositive. It will have to be a genome signature, document, or some IC evidence. Links are below. "h" cut off to kill annoying hyperlinks since most won't care but it's something i've been looking at for some time.

ttps://www.science.org/content/article/fights-over-confidentiality-pledge-and-conflicts-interest-tore-apart-covid-19-origin-probe
ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Daszak
ttps://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/
ttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/deleted-coronavirus-genome-sequences-trigger-scientific-intrigue/
ttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873506120304165
 
Brutal.

The most interesting things that I got as chair of the Lancet commission came from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits and whistleblower leaks from inside the U.S. government. Isn’t that terrible? NIH was actually asked at one point: give us your research program on SARS-like viruses. And you know what they did? They released the cover page and redacted 290 pages. They gave us a cover page and 290 blank pages! That’s NIH, for heaven’s sake. That’s not some corporation. That is the U.S. government charged with keeping us healthy.
 
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