Vaccine

MicPaPa said:
Ultimately and specifically, what are you advocating for?
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In this case, just trying to set the groundwork for a productive discussion.

You need a common set of facts before you can have a reasonable conversation. One of those facts is that the boom in covid cases is creating a health care shortage in general.

And, as watfly noted, a boom in perceived risk can also create a health care shortage.
 
espola said:
Looks like they hit you pretty hard.

Please continue.
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Ha, that's pretty good, must admit. You absolutely have tds. I can prescribe ivermectin for you, seems like you are presenting with trump blindess. I assure you it's perfectly safe and you won't have to pick it up at Tractor Supply.
 
dad4 said:
Look up travel nurse salaries. Compare a 2019 article against a 2021 job posting. The price has tripled. That implies a serious shortage and inelastic supply.
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Since price is a function of both supply and demand it doesn’t necessarily follow that it’s one curve or another. There are several factors at play including: enhanced demand (you get this every severe flu season too), parenting issues (due to disruptions in school and childcare), perceived risk—->risk premium, the discomfort of the job (masks all day, unpleasant work environment), extended unemployment benefits, and the fact shortages exist in other parts of the market because doctors offices are having trouble holding onto their nurses too (most nurses remember are women which means a large chunk have primary childcare responsibility or are old enough to be Leary of working emergency wards)
 
Grace T. said:
Even the pro ivermectin studies have shown pre delta it doesn’t work as a prophylaxis. The ivermectin as miracle drug people are as Cookey as the masks are as good as vaccine people. You guys are just throwing the same poop at each other.
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Who is "you guys"?
 
Grace T. said:
Since price is a function of both supply and demand it doesn’t necessarily follow that it’s one curve or another. There are several factors at play including: enhanced demand (you get this every severe flu season too), parenting issues (due to disruptions in school and childcare), perceived risk—->risk premium, the discomfort of the job (masks all day, unpleasant work environment), extended unemployment benefits, and the fact shortages exist in other parts of the market because doctors offices are having trouble holding onto their nurses too (most nurses remember are women which means a large chunk have primary childcare responsibility or are old enough to be Leary of working emergency wards)
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Ps it’s not just nurses salaries that are moving up. Lawyer salaries are too, among several others.
 
Grace T. said:
Since price is a function of both supply and demand it doesn’t necessarily follow that it’s one curve or another. There are several factors at play including: enhanced demand (you get this every severe flu season too), parenting issues (due to disruptions in school and childcare), perceived risk—->risk premium, the discomfort of the job (masks all day, unpleasant work environment), extended unemployment benefits, and the fact shortages exist in other parts of the market because doctors offices are having trouble holding onto their nurses too (most nurses remember are women which means a large chunk have primary childcare responsibility or are old enough to be Leary of working emergency wards)
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If the price tripled, neither supply nor demand is elastic.

Draw it out. You can't get a large price jump unless both lines are steep.
 
espola said:
I can see how the ivermectin crowd is here. Who is in the "masks are as good as vaccine" group?
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I didn’t have anyone in particular in mind here. Feel free to sort them how you like them, though I still find it odd some of the pro maskers are still so willing to die on that cloth mask hill when almost all of Europe (and their experts) have left that behind.
 
Grace T. said:
I didn’t have anyone in particular in mind here. Feel free to sort them how you like them, though I still find it odd some of the pro maskers are still so willing to die on that cloth mask hill when almost all of Europe (and their experts) have left that behind.
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So "you guys" was not anyone you were addressing here in this thread? Just another of Grace's strawman ensembles?

Did you ever give a thought to those times when you spout "reading comprehension" that maybe it's just writing comprehension?
 
dad4 said:
If the price tripled, neither supply nor demand is elastic.

Draw it out. You can't get a large price jump unless both lines are steep.
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Fair. A. I was suggesting to that it was most likely both instead of just one or the other. B. Like many other things, covid and the responses to covid (such as the child care crunch, ue benefits, actual and perceived risk, masks, inflation pressures elsewhere in the market, vaccine mandates) have changed the elasticity of the supply curve (with employment generally already being sticky due to barriers to entry).
 
espola said:
I can see how the ivermectin crowd is here. Who is in the "masks are as good as vaccine" group?
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Why can't you be inclusive of ivermectin? such a hater. vaccination, natural immunity, good masks - why not employ all of the tools in your tool box. I know it's a scary world outside of the FDA and CDC. Also, pay no mind to what's happening in Israel, bogus data for sure.
 
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