Vaccine

Look up travel nurse salaries. Compare a 2019 article against a 2021 job posting. The price has tripled. That implies a serious shortage and inelastic supply.
Since price is a function of both supply and demand it doesn’t necessarily follow that it’s one curve or another. There are several factors at play including: enhanced demand (you get this every severe flu season too), parenting issues (due to disruptions in school and childcare), perceived risk—->risk premium, the discomfort of the job (masks all day, unpleasant work environment), extended unemployment benefits, and the fact shortages exist in other parts of the market because doctors offices are having trouble holding onto their nurses too (most nurses remember are women which means a large chunk have primary childcare responsibility or are old enough to be Leary of working emergency wards)
 
Even the pro ivermectin studies have shown pre delta it doesn’t work as a prophylaxis. The ivermectin as miracle drug people are as Cookey as the masks are as good as vaccine people. You guys are just throwing the same poop at each other.

Who is "you guys"?
 
Since price is a function of both supply and demand it doesn’t necessarily follow that it’s one curve or another. There are several factors at play including: enhanced demand (you get this every severe flu season too), parenting issues (due to disruptions in school and childcare), perceived risk—->risk premium, the discomfort of the job (masks all day, unpleasant work environment), extended unemployment benefits, and the fact shortages exist in other parts of the market because doctors offices are having trouble holding onto their nurses too (most nurses remember are women which means a large chunk have primary childcare responsibility or are old enough to be Leary of working emergency wards)
Ps it’s not just nurses salaries that are moving up. Lawyer salaries are too, among several others.
 
Since price is a function of both supply and demand it doesn’t necessarily follow that it’s one curve or another. There are several factors at play including: enhanced demand (you get this every severe flu season too), parenting issues (due to disruptions in school and childcare), perceived risk—->risk premium, the discomfort of the job (masks all day, unpleasant work environment), extended unemployment benefits, and the fact shortages exist in other parts of the market because doctors offices are having trouble holding onto their nurses too (most nurses remember are women which means a large chunk have primary childcare responsibility or are old enough to be Leary of working emergency wards)
If the price tripled, neither supply nor demand is elastic.

Draw it out. You can't get a large price jump unless both lines are steep.
 
I can see how the ivermectin crowd is here. Who is in the "masks are as good as vaccine" group?
I didn’t have anyone in particular in mind here. Feel free to sort them how you like them, though I still find it odd some of the pro maskers are still so willing to die on that cloth mask hill when almost all of Europe (and their experts) have left that behind.
 
I didn’t have anyone in particular in mind here. Feel free to sort them how you like them, though I still find it odd some of the pro maskers are still so willing to die on that cloth mask hill when almost all of Europe (and their experts) have left that behind.

So "you guys" was not anyone you were addressing here in this thread? Just another of Grace's strawman ensembles?

Did you ever give a thought to those times when you spout "reading comprehension" that maybe it's just writing comprehension?
 
If the price tripled, neither supply nor demand is elastic.

Draw it out. You can't get a large price jump unless both lines are steep.
Fair. A. I was suggesting to that it was most likely both instead of just one or the other. B. Like many other things, covid and the responses to covid (such as the child care crunch, ue benefits, actual and perceived risk, masks, inflation pressures elsewhere in the market, vaccine mandates) have changed the elasticity of the supply curve (with employment generally already being sticky due to barriers to entry).
 
I can see how the ivermectin crowd is here. Who is in the "masks are as good as vaccine" group?
Why can't you be inclusive of ivermectin? such a hater. vaccination, natural immunity, good masks - why not employ all of the tools in your tool box. I know it's a scary world outside of the FDA and CDC. Also, pay no mind to what's happening in Israel, bogus data for sure.
 
So "you guys" was not anyone you were addressing here in this thread? Just another of Grace's strawman ensembles?

Did you ever give a thought to those times when you spout "reading comprehension" that maybe it's just writing comprehension?
Not with you. This isn’t my only forum. Other than you and eotl and clones, most people around here (dad4 and crush included) are positively reasonable. You should see the nutjobs out there (including in the video post). I think it stems from most of us (you being the notable exception) having children of school age which keeps us grounded.
 
Not with you. This isn’t my only forum. Other than you and eotl and clones, most people around here (dad4 and crush included) are positively reasonable. You should see the nutjobs out there (including in the video post). I think it stems from most of us (you being the notable exception) having children of school age which keeps us grounded.

I'm reasonable. Perhaps you just don't like me pointing out how often you are wrong (such as e.g. the "you guys" comment).
 
Why can't you be inclusive of ivermectin? such a hater. vaccination, natural immunity, good masks - why not employ all of the tools in your tool box. I know it's a scary world outside of the FDA and CDC. Also, pay no mind to what's happening in Israel, bogus data for sure.

It's unproven for covid and dangerous in large doses. It has the advantage to the no-vax crowd in that it is available without a prescription and is relatively cheap -- just $10 for a horse-sized dose (you can figure out your own dosage with simple arithmetic, right?)
 
It's unproven for covid and dangerous in large doses. It has the advantage to the no-vax crowd in that it is available without a prescription and is relatively cheap -- just $10 for a horse-sized dose (you can figure out your own dosage with simple arithmetic, right?)

Yes you can based on the active ingredient label on the packaging and a quick Google search. If people-whatever their motivation-keep at dosage levels approved for parasitic infections they should be OK. Do what thou wilt, but Google and do the math first. In the clinical trial posted earlier, which addressed treatment of COVID-19 symptoms, not CoV-2 infection, it's possible those dosages might work as an anti-inflammatory in conjunction with other anti-inflammatories. There is a study out there that indicates that ivermectin can block the S protein-Ace2 receptor interaction, suggesting it could block infection. This effect required very high dosages, which may not be physiologically sustainable given the rapid way ivermectin is metabolized, broken down, and secreted (I looked up some stuff on this. Have the links but thought why go there). Anyway, the thing is that it appears some people are going for very high dosages to try and hit that point. The problem becomes if you gobble down too much too fast the molecular pumps that keep ivermectin from crossing the blood-brain barrier get overwhelmed. When that happens, ivermectin gets into your central nervous system and acts as a reasonably potent neurotoxin. Then, some of the neurological symptoms mentioned in the Lincoln Project video turn out to actually happen-dizzyness, convulsions, etc. I don't know about seeing lizard people in Congress. Personally, I've always thought of them that way. Anyway, the good news appears to be that if one just stops taking it, the neuro symptoms appear to resolve pretty quickly. Long term consequences? Who knows. We'll see how many lizard people get elected shortly.
 
A good summary of the ivermectin debate and the dynamics governing what's happening.

 
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