Vaccine

dad4 said:
Nope. I declined your offer to change the topic. We were still discussing your first question.

The topic was, as you asked:

How does one person's vaccination status impact another person's health?

The answer is that, when unvaccinated covid patients clog the ICU, hospitals delay care for everyone.

Now, are we clear that one person's vaccination status can, and does, impact other people?

Or do you claim that hospitals are not delaying other procedures in order to free up resources for unvaccinated covid patients?
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Did you have the same concern when medical treatment was delayed and elective, but serious, procedures were canceled in the first part of the pandemic due to government policy and covid panic? Correct me if Im wrong but my recollection is you downplayed other health concerns caused by Covid restrictions. We now have 10 million that are behind on cancer screenings.
 
watfly said:
Did you have the same concern when medical treatment was delayed and elective, but serious, procedures were canceled in the first part of the pandemic due to government policy and covid panic? Correct me if Im wrong but my recollection is you downplayed other health concerns caused by Covid restrictions. We now have 10 million that are behind on cancer screenings.
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Fair criticism.

No, I did not.
 
dad4 said:
No theory about it. It's a simple question of fact.

Either hospitals are delaying other procedures in response to covid, or they are not.
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I believe our difference of opinion is not “if”/“but to what extent”. Is it the exception or the rule? I would argue it’s the exception.
 
Kicker4Life said:
I believe our difference of opinion is not “if”/“but to what extent”. Is it the exception or the rule? I would argue it’s the exception.
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The ramp up in travel nurse salaries makes me think it is pretty common.

Look up travel nurse salaries. Compare a 2019 article against a 2021 job posting. The price has tripled. That implies a serious shortage and inelastic supply.

Put another way, Florida can only staff their covid wards by outbidding Texas. And vice versa.
 
MicPaPa said:
Ultimately and specifically, what are you advocating for?
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In this case, just trying to set the groundwork for a productive discussion.

You need a common set of facts before you can have a reasonable conversation. One of those facts is that the boom in covid cases is creating a health care shortage in general.

And, as watfly noted, a boom in perceived risk can also create a health care shortage.
 
espola said:
Looks like they hit you pretty hard.

Please continue.
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Ha, that's pretty good, must admit. You absolutely have tds. I can prescribe ivermectin for you, seems like you are presenting with trump blindess. I assure you it's perfectly safe and you won't have to pick it up at Tractor Supply.
 
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