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Ah public schools. Where the teachers stand around.
Vaccine
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I did way up above (way back when when espola was calling it a fantasy). This is old news. Yawn. Have no interest in relitigating it or trying to save you from your delusions. And it’s a spread btw because the data is so bad…most reliable we have is the observations of docs and hospital admins plus the death revisions several states made.
The problem remains the blue cities though even though the state governors are changing. Some areas like downtown Chicago downtown la or mid town Manhattan may not recover.
HAHA...I understand how databases work...the question clearly isn't if it is possible, but rather if they are all connected to the same system and working together. We can create a pretty lengthy list of agencies that fail to work together and provide each other information.
No interest? You just did.
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This is a pretty funny statement. The CDC "encourages" providers to report into the NHSN. It's always been 100% voluntary to do so. They don't have the bandwidth to actually enforce anything.
To be honest, our vaccination rates could be way higher or way lower...they could be a little higher or a little lower...or they could be somewhere in the middle.
Your "database" is an inherently flawed system, as most data bases are that require human input. It's like OOOPS, I forgot to report last week, what should I report? Oh yea, that many....sure.
See how silly it all is? Bars/graphs, databases, swirling dervishes..... Let's focus on boosting who needs to be boosted, vaccinating those that need vaccinating. And about those masks...well, wear an N95 if you would like. But please wear them correctly, virtue signalling now allowed.
Yes. IFR is well below 1%.
Not just my view. The Economist’s worldwide estimate for deaths is around 15M. If you have 3B or 4B total infections, that gives you an overall IFR of 0.5% or 0.375%. Higher earlier in the pandemic, lower now.
I thought we all agreed on that.
So a 99.5% survival rate….let that sink in a little.
Now factor in that, by cdc estimates, approx 20-30% of hospitalizations were “WITH” Covid, not “FORM” Covid, therefore you can conclude a % of Deaths were “WITH” not “FROM” lowering the IFR further.
All things many of us were accused of being Conspiracy Theorists for bringing up in 2020 which the CDC is now supporting.
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Think about it. You have a person named "John Smith". How do you merge search? Are you giving out your social when you get tested? Address (some people have multiple addresses not to mention work addresses as well)?
That's why you can do it on county sites which scan the barcode of your license and have access to the state data base. But even that's limited as it doesn't magically plug into some central federal merge site.
Yawn.
Yep. 99.5% survival rate. Also known as one death per 200 people.
World War 2 had a pretty good survival rate, too. Only 80M dead out of 2.3 billion. 97% survival rate. Guess it wasn’t so bad after all.
Like COVID, sort of depends who you are and where you are. A Jewish person in Poland....not so much. A soldier on the Russian front....while death is the primary motivator there's a hell of lot of other things to worry about. A civilian in London during the blitz...despite the risk people went about their daily business keeping the factories open even though many, but not all, of the children were sent to the countryside and they held very many sleepless nights. An Inca villager in the Andies....you had a pretty good life and WWII touched on only the radio.
I give my insurance card when I get vaccinated or tested. So does everyone else who has insurance. It’s how they are doing the billing. They also asked for my driver’s license to verify my ID.
So, for 95% or more of the population, they have a primary key.
More work for the other 5%. You’re stuck using things like name + birthdate + zip code. But it works well enough.
You mean WW2 was a real problem? But it had a 97% survival rate. Doesn’t a high survival rate mean we should ignore it?
As Kicker would say, “let that sink in a little”.
And now you run away from your own words.
No, not everyone is giving their insurance card. I agree though the number is probably in the ballpark of five to ten percent somewhere. No one is doing that extra work particularly since there is no intrastate network. I can't remember where I saw it but those people are just being lumped into the unvaccinated stat. The number is probably larger is smaller states with many neighbors or states with many visitors like Hawaii than it is in California.
I'm saying it depends, much like COVID, on who you are. My mother had a very pleasant WWII...some of her fondest memories....thank you very much.
Yawn.
Hüsker Dü
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Old faux news, do it again. Seems what’s “news” to you is sometimes quickly dismissed as agenda driven rhetoric to the rest of the world. You are free to believe what you want, others of us like to see the cold hard facts. Squirm as you might to get your way, that doesn’t change anything out here.
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“Tried to”
Such a bad argument...there is survival rates in everything you do everyday, if you are going to calculate the odds of dying for everything you do, you might as well lock yourself in the house. Preventable causes of death 1 in 24 haha really and you talk about numbers, you are 10x's more likely to die of some preventable cause than you are of Covid...such a bad argument
| Lifetime odds of death for selected causes, United States, 2019 | |
|---|---|
| Cause of Death | Odds of Dying |
| Heart disease | 1 in 6 |
| Cancer | 1 in 7 |
| All preventable causes of death | 1 in 24 |
| Chronic lower respiratory disease | 1 in 27 |
| Suicide | 1 in 88 |
| Opioid overdose | 1 in 92 |
| Fall | 1 in 106 |
| Motor-vehicle crash | 1 in 107 |
| Gun assault | 1 in 289 |