what-happened
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have you ever been to a hospital and seen how things work? Not your family practice office, but a hospital.
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The statement:
What changed at or near the peak of the vaccinated positive reported cases?
It was the removal of incentive for vaccinated individuals to test, excepting to test out of isolation on Monday, December 27th.
Your theory is that New York residents stopped getting PCR tests because isolation rules changed for Californians?The statement:
What changed at or near the peak of the vaccinated positive reported cases?
It was the removal of incentive for vaccinated individuals to test, excepting to test out of isolation on Monday, December 27th.
Desert Hound
DA
Where do you come up with 3%?
We haven't had a break down of the numbers.
If it were just 3% Biden wouldn't be talking about changing the standards. The number is far greater.
Very old ground that has been rehashed several times here. He’s going to say with the omicron because it’s more inflated than it was but if you look back at the records the with/for split was around 20-40%/80%~60% and Is now more than 50/50 by most guesses. 3% is laughable.
Wonder what would have been more effective, Mask Mandates or a Diet and Excercise Mandate:
CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese
An overwhelming majority of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the CDC said.
www.cnbc.com
It was until they tried to keep the schools shut.
the choice thing was made worse by the leadership sending their kids to private schools which were open while public’s were shut. Then the entire crt thing hit and the bottom dropped out.
Serious truth to that -- pretty sure the Carters were the last ones to send their kids to public school.
50% is laughable.
thirteenknots
SILVER ELITE
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of history.
Your posting past is the millstone you will carry
for the balance of your existence.
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This happened at my kids elementary. We werent aware of this specific issue, but reported this principal a number of times over the course of 3 years for various odd behaviors including being under the influence. Our complaints were ignored. Eventually led to a federal investigation for covering up sexual abuse.
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These are just a few examples and I have first hand experience with other bad teachet and administrator behavior. So while I'm pro public schools Im very diisillushioned with what Ive experienced lately. Charter schools arent a panacea but they offer a positive alternative for msny students.
Centers for Disease Control, not California Department of Public Health.
Did the New York Department of Public Health’s quarantine (not isolation) requirements align with the CDC at the time?
I’m sure there was plenty of press about the CDC guidance in NYC.
Summer 2020.
30k positive tests per day.
Times 10 because of the test undercount back then.
Times 30 because people test positive for a while.
Roughly 9M people who would have tested positive, if you had tested them on that day. Just under 3% of 330M.
Nowhere near enough to mess up hospitalization counts.
Grace made no effort to explain where the numbers came from, or what they measure.
I think she's referring to the split between those who are sick because of covid, and those who have covid but are sick for another reason.
I have no idea where she gets the 40/60 assertion. Pulled the number out of thin air as far as I can tell.
I explained the claim of 3% of all hospital admissions. You'd have to combine it with covid hospital admissions to compare it to Grace's split.
The 3% is probably an overestimate. Not everyone got tested in hospital back then. Why waste a test on a healthy 25 year old with a broken leg?
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Didn't they have to test everyone to determine whether they needed to be "isolated" or not?
As soon as they had enough tests, yes.
June 2020, there was still a shortage. They wanted to test everyone, but couldn't.
Remember Cuomo jumping the queue to get tests for his family? It was an issue because there were not enough to go around.
I made no effort because the conversation was kicked to death already, including several estimates from various hospital staff. It’s not just hospitalizations btw but also deaths (an overcount you’ll remember espola assured us could never happen and led to several states revising their numbers). In any case the conversation bores me. You are increasingly grasping at straws as your world view and narrative crumble around you. 3% is laughable…only you could come up with such a number.
Anyone with symptoms of covid.
Desert Hound
DA
This is true.
Everything he and a set of politicians have advocated for has failed. Not only failed, but has inflicted great harm.
Combine a highly contagious respiratory virus with human nature, the need to work, etc, we were never going to stop the virus.
You have some die hards out there. The true believers.
Most people are not interested anymore and are becoming increasingly agitated regarding restrictions.
Dem gov and politicians are changing their stance. And that is because they are looking at polling data and know they are getting killed on the issue.
Show me the 40/60 number for summer 2020, back when Fox started making the claim and you all started parroting it.
Wow, if we apply your theory to the rest of the world the mortality rate drops below 1%.