Except for your 97% being off by roughly 21%z
Vaccine
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If we are doing our favorite parts of this thread (now that we are six hundred plus pages in)....mine would be your comedy.
My my all of the Covidians are certainly triggered. It's funny.
What's a Covidian? Or, more to the point, who's a Covidian?
I was just reading along the recent thread occasionally bumping out a rough spot when you brought up what looks like a misstatement about me, confirmed to some degree by your immediately skittering away from it.
You should know by now that lies about me tend to trigger me.
Here's is the difference, though, in risk assessment. For the disease, there is no avoiding it. The chances of you catching it in your life time are close to one hundred percent (barring of course some new vaccine breakthrough, none of which seem to be on the horizon...though globally what are we at already if you take out China....fifty percent?) The vaccine is an added roll of the die. On an individual basis, the benefit therefore depends if it reduces the risk assessment for the inevitable catching of the disease. For some people, it's obvious. For children, it isn't.
Covidian.
Grace, where is the ‘science’ in your post?
Sentence 1, Grace praises herself for being sciency.
Sentence 2, Grace insults someone else’s numbers, without actually discussing the computation.
Sentence 3, Grace praises herself for being sciency, and insults her opponents as religious.
Sentence 4, Grace insults her opponents again, also as religious.
Nowhere in any of that do you even begin to discuss science. Your post is nothing more than a combination of bragging and ad-hominem attacks.
Where do you think the President gets his info, you don't think he is prepped on what to say?
This tired routine again.
You were the one that came out with an exact number. I did nothing of the kind. I gave a spread and qualified that it was a guestimate by people in the trenches based on flawed and faulty data. You held onto an exact number you pulled out of your ass. See the difference? Or are you going for even more intellectual bankruptcy than that you find yourself in?
p.s. at this point our side is entirely in its rights to brag...we were right...you were wrong....it wasn't even close.
EvilGoalie 21
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Dark corner indeed. I hope you find a place where you feel less disillusioned. i mean that in a sincere way.
It appears you think that that helps your position.
Public health has torn its reputation to shreds. It's produced one garbage study after another acting as a propaganda arm. It has failed to do risk assessment. It has acted in a blatant political manner. It's been repeatedly shown to be wrong. Don't feel sorry for the disillusioned. Be concerned with why public health did this and how it's ever going to fix this, particularly if in our lifetimes we need it again. It's reputation is in the toilet...if we get another 10 years down the road (as you have articulated a fear of) what do you think is going to happen?
Coocoo.
Thanks.
I was less wondering about vaccine efficiency. (That is established by now. Yes, it works.)
I was more hoping that it could tell me something about the role of NPI among vaccinated people. But, if the time lag is minor or illusory, there is less information to be had.
So how does this work with the made up numbers and projections you try and create. You should be careful, people that use statistics in the wrong way can be very dangerous spreaders of misinformation!!!! But then again, maybe you are even smarter than the doctor and math modeler from BU?
Brooke Nichols, a health economist and infectious disease mathematical modeler at Boston University, said "vaccinated individuals can definitely infect other people. There is enough data to support this."
"While vaccinated individuals may be less infectious and infectious for a shorter duration of time they are by no means a dead-end host," Nichols said. "When calling it a pandemic of the unvaccinated, though, it makes it sound as those vaccinated individuals aren’t substantially contributing to new cases — which they are (particularly now). Unvaccinated individuals do, however, continue to contribute disproportionately to hospitalizations and deaths."
However, Nichols added, "I don’t think the data systems in place can tell us anything about the proportion of new infections that originated from a vaccinated or unvaccinated person."
Beware of claims that vaccinated can’t spread COVID-19
As President Joe Biden heads toward his second year in office of leading the country through a pandemic, he faces the ch
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"Oh Magoo, you've done it again!"
I couldn't have done it with your excellent setup work.
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I'm pretty sure the point was the Covid survival rate constantly quoted is based on deaths vs total population (WW), so comparing the WW2 deaths vs total population (WW) is equivalent.
2/3s approx. of the WW2 deaths were non military BTW.
Nice info here - World War II casualties - Wikipedia
Flawed thinking again from the Covidians. Everyone on the planet is eventually going to catch COVID. Not everyone fought or was exposed to front line effects of war in WWII. Again, my mother spent a perfectly happy WWII....some of the best time of her life. Civilian deaths in the US also not a big deal. Nor civilian deaths in India. Wouldn't want to be a Jewish person in warsaw, however, or a Japanese person in Hiroshima. And then you have the great middle like civilians in France or Britain.
The Covid Survival Rate I’ve always referred to is Cases V Deaths.
Understanding the “collateral damage” of WW2, but they weren’t actively involved in the battle. If you’d like to further drill down categories of excess mortality of WW2 in order to include some of them, OK but we would have to agree on them, not just lump them in.
Aren’t the “experts” the ones advising the President?
Fauci also said it….is he not considered and expert (we may even agree on this)?