Vaccine

Grace T. said:
Wow, who knew...apparently masks do have costs! I had been assured they don't.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Face masks DO harm kids' development, landmark study shows

Face masks may in fact impede on children's development, a new study has found, with the report citing a 23 per cent drop in scores measuring kids' cognitive abilities since the pandemic began.
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The study indicates a 23% drop in children's cognitive scores. Based on the leadership we have had during the pandemic, I'd estimate many adults lost much more than that. Irrational fear has that effect on rational thought and reasoning.
 
what-happened said:
The panel also recommended the Merck drug to be limited in use. 13-10 is very close. Also, some panel members wanted to specifically exclude pregnant women from popping the pills. Jabs yes, pills no. Interesting stuff.
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The reality is the vaxx and this have not gone through the normal procedure.

Now there are good arguments to be made that we drag our feet getting new drugs approved.

On the other hand both the vax and this have been super rushed and as with the vax...we are still learning LOTS of stuff about what it can, cannot do, possible bad effects, etc.
 
what-happened said:
Why stop at reporters. Besides, where do you think they are getting their info from. These days very little news is derived from journalism. Much of it is driven by calculated leakers to their favorite outlet that supports a specific agenda.
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Much of what is driven is also supported by the press. The press overwhelmingly is to the left. It is hard to see daylight between their reporting and the official D position on various policies.

Because of that one needs to get news from a variety of sources. The truth usually lies somewhere in between.

FYI if the press was predominately to the right...I would still tell people to get news from a variety of sources for the exact same reason I do today.
 
dad4 said:
Read the reasons for the no votes.

The pill doesn't work very well. It can also cause birth defects.

The mechanism is troubling, too. It works by creating viral mutations. Mostly, that means the new viral copies are broken things that cannot reproduce. (Yay!) But you run the risk that one of the mutated copies is a new and improved version. (Boo!)

In all, I find viral mutanogen pills to be a scarier concept than an mRNA vaccine.
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These pills were always going to underperform, they always do. They are cheap to make, cheap to distribute, and easy to take. Margins are better - it's where the real money is made in the world of Pharma.

Both pills and MRNA vaccines should considered scary. mRNA is a great technology and certainly makes it easier to create a vaccine. mRNA vaccines dont have a long safety profile. The new therapeautics also lack a long safety profile. Bang for the buck and if you fit the profile, go for the vaccines.

I find it silly that people advocate for the pills and discredit the vaccines. Certainly more data available for the vaccines. Not all good but mostly good. In reality, in terms of treatment effectiveness, Monoclonal antibody treatment is the way to go. Unfortunately it's expensive - but very effective. Widespread testing and monoclonal antibody treatment is a good thing, just take a peek at Florida.
 
Desert Hound said:
Much of what is driven is also supported by the press. The press overwhelmingly is to the left. It is hard to see daylight between their reporting and the official D position on various policies.

Because of that one needs to get news from a variety of sources. The truth usually lies somewhere in between.

FYI if the press was predominately to the right...I would still tell people to get news from a variety of sources for the exact same reason I do today.
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Agree but it's not just politics. The news media has gotten lazy as they've been replaced with a bunch of partisan hacks. Investigative journalism is few and far between. Political journalism consists of regurgitating talking points memos released by your side. Legal journalism consists of hiring lawyers to be talking heads and mostly wax on their political takes (see Toobin or Judge Jeanine) instead of doing real research (see for example the Kavanuagh hearings) and has become an extension of politics. Entertainment journalism is basically taking press releases from the studios or publicists. Tech journalism consists mostly of interviews with people in the industry or press releases. Science journalism has been reduced to citing studies or interviewing quasi-celebrities like Tyson or Musk. Sports journalism is focused (at least in the mainstream outlets) a lot on politics and personal lives or lazy interviews. There are still a few reporters and outfits doing analysis and reporting but it's rare particularly among entities like ESPN or Sports Illustrated. Economic journalism still is kicking somewhat but is mostly focused on interviewing academics. Laziness up and down the line.
 
Grace T. said:
Her defense is "I adhered to the technical theater portions of the mask order". Seriously this is o.k. but they want 6 year olds masked all day????

www.sfchronicle.com

S.F. Mayor Breed appears maskless in another nightclub video. She says she didn’t violate COVID rules

The mayor’s spokesman said that Breed was in a private section of a club. San...
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thewillwitt.substack.com

None of the people telling you to be worried about coronavirus are worried about coronavirus

A few days ago, a video surfaced of San Francisco mayor London Breed partying at a night club without a mask on. She is seen dancing and singing along to music in a large crowd of fellow partygoers despite the city’s ordinance for indoor mask wearing. But before we judge, let’s look at the...
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Grace T. said:
Agree but it's not just politics. The news media has gotten lazy as they've been replaced with a bunch of partisan hacks. Investigative journalism is few and far between. Political journalism consists of regurgitating talking points memos released by your side. Legal journalism consists of hiring lawyers to be talking heads and mostly wax on their political takes (see Toobin or Judge Jeanine) instead of doing real research (see for example the Kavanuagh hearings) and has become an extension of politics. Entertainment journalism is basically taking press releases from the studios or publicists. Tech journalism consists mostly of interviews with people in the industry or press releases. Science journalism has been reduced to citing studies or interviewing quasi-celebrities like Tyson or Musk. Sports journalism is focused (at least in the mainstream outlets) a lot on politics and personal lives or lazy interviews. There are still a few reporters and outfits doing analysis and reporting but it's rare particularly among entities like ESPN or Sports Illustrated. Economic journalism still is kicking somewhat but is mostly focused on interviewing academics. Laziness up and down the line.
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Isn't life so much simpler when you can just turn your brain off like that?
 
espola said:
Isn't life so much simpler when you can just turn your brain off like that?
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What up dog? Man, this has been a long battle with you and your little brain. I told you I was going to do something big to make this sport better for the next group of soccer players. You had such little faith. TGIFW!
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You are the ridiculousness. Fauci’s job is to rep science. You seem to want to vilify him as if he were the scary thing in the dark to you. He’s just a man. Put down the pitch fork and the torch and go back inside. These aren’t the middle ages and he isn’t the purveyor of the Black Plague. Your displaced fear has you lashing out at straw men and windmills.
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There's a facism thread. Please use it for your fascist post.
 
Grace T. said:
Agree but it's not just politics. The news media has gotten lazy as they've been replaced with a bunch of partisan hacks. Investigative journalism is few and far between. Political journalism consists of regurgitating talking points memos released by your side. Legal journalism consists of hiring lawyers to be talking heads and mostly wax on their political takes (see Toobin or Judge Jeanine) instead of doing real research (see for example the Kavanuagh hearings) and has become an extension of politics. Entertainment journalism is basically taking press releases from the studios or publicists. Tech journalism consists mostly of interviews with people in the industry or press releases. Science journalism has been reduced to citing studies or interviewing quasi-celebrities like Tyson or Musk. Sports journalism is focused (at least in the mainstream outlets) a lot on politics and personal lives or lazy interviews. There are still a few reporters and outfits doing analysis and reporting but it's rare particularly among entities like ESPN or Sports Illustrated. Economic journalism still is kicking somewhat but is mostly focused on interviewing academics. Laziness up and down the line.
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stream.org

'Reporting the Controversy' — How the Corrupt Media Creates Fake News - The Stream

"Reporting the controversy” is an end-run that lets media hacks peddle fake news to promote their political agenda. I.e., the Russia hoax.
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I know a big abortion case going on with the Supremes right now. I bring it up here because word on the street is that some of these experiments that Dr. F, Bill and Jeff were doing had aborted baby tissue ((past 6 month or older fetus is best and can go for $250,000)) from heart and lung mixed with bat, monkey, rat and beagle dna. Also, Mississippi is only asking to make it illegal after 15 weeks and not out lawing abortion up to 15 weeks. This is a touchy subject so I will tread lightly. I am a voice for the fetus and I'm here to say that me and all the other fetuses would like a chance at life too and not used for experiments. No more, please..........I hope as a planet we can all build back better human race through love and mercy at the next great reset and get rid of once and for all, all the hate through bribes and blackmail because one is bought so easily for almighty buck. Let's take care of all of God's beautiful kids. The truth will expose all this and will make many puke and feel very depressed. We have to be shown the truth folks because no one believes what is really going on and what all this is really about. We need to save the kids you guys before we go back to normal. We can;t have a society with the likes of Tony, Bill and Jeff running things behind the scenes. Stay safe you guys :)
 
Desert Hound said:
stream.org

'Reporting the Controversy' — How the Corrupt Media Creates Fake News - The Stream

"Reporting the controversy” is an end-run that lets media hacks peddle fake news to promote their political agenda. I.e., the Russia hoax.
stream.org stream.org
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Media advocacy has replaced journalism and is driving the divide here. We have "sides" in the media now - as is always the case when advocacy is a primary objective.

It will be interesting where education ends up. Education may be the next battleground that ends up being split into "sides". The pandemic has crystallized the philosophical differences many have with the current state of their public education system. As has happened with the mainstream news organizations, education has moved more into advocacy. Bari Weiss' new approach to higher education with the University of Austin is specifically targeting the current culture on many college campuses. This will be a very ugly battle if it happens on a significant scale. There is power to be lost and it won't be given up easily - and it will be divisive.
 
crush said:
I know a big abortion case going on with the Supremes right now. I bring it up here because word on the street is that some of these experiments that Dr. F, Bill and Jeff were doing had aborted baby tissue ((past 6 month or older fetus is best and can go for $250,000)) from heart and lung mixed with bat, monkey, rat and beagle dna. Also, Mississippi is only asking to make it illegal after 15 weeks and not out lawing abortion up to 15 weeks. This is a touchy subject so I will tread lightly. I am a voice for the fetus and I'm here to say that me and all the other fetuses would like a chance at life too and not used for experiments. No more, please..........I hope as a planet we can all build back better human race through love and mercy at the next great reset and get rid of once and for all, all the hate through bribes and blackmail because one is bought so easily for almighty buck. Let's take care of all of God's beautiful kids. The truth will expose all this and will make many puke and feel very depressed. We have to be shown the truth folks because no one believes what is really going on and what all this is really about. We need to save the kids you guys before we go back to normal. We can;t have a society with the likes of Tony, Bill and Jeff running things behind the scenes. Stay safe you guys :)
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I heard the vaccine is really alien microchips that take over your brain. 24 months later you’ll find yourself marching onto a flying saucer, and there won’t be a thing you can do about it. Bill sold us all out so the aliens would use Windows 12 to run their battle fleets.
 
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