Vaccine

The alien microchips are starting to kick in.

If you’re not ok with things that only half work, don’t think about medicine too much. Your decision to become vegetarian is a smart choice that will reduce your odds of a heart attack. But it’s not perfect, so they still have you come in for cholesterol screening. Yet one more thing that only works halfway.
No booze either. I drank a little here. I had to drive all over socal chasing medals and when I got home, I made myself Rum and Coke. Plus fast food was killing me as well as all the stress I put on myself to make it in socal. You know, keep up with the Jones? Any WHO, I'm looking for the UBI for every soul and true freedom from cheaters and liars. Math really did us hard this time.
 
Is that a prediction or your view of the current state of education? Your full post pretty much represents my current view of education. However, I believe the seeds are planted for alternatives that are a more significant portion of our population and well defined philosophically in terms of objectives. Whether it becomes a movement that grows remains to be seen. In our current state, I'd say the opportunity is there for an alternative.
Current view for the most part. Not claiming that its absolute at every institution of higher education but appears to be the predominate culture.

I hope your right in terms of an alternative; right now I don't see how it happens while occupying the same space. An alternative that is separate just causes more division...if I'm making any sense.
 
p.s. here's more proof. MIT isn't immune from it either, nor are the sciences. Remember the fuss over Sumner's remarks about women and mathematics/stem. There's self-censorship in the sciences too, and COVID has blasted it out into the open...

I think that article is wishful thinking by WSJ.

You won’t find me defending DEI programs, but I don’t see much pushback within the academy. Math and science will try to defend themselves by retreating into research and relying on blind peer review, which is a good policy anyway.
 
I think that article is wishful thinking by WSJ.

You won’t find me defending DEI programs, but I don’t see much pushback within the academy. Math and science will try to defend themselves by retreating into research and relying on blind peer review, which is a good policy anyway.
That's fine as long as they don't voice their opinions outside of math and science. By not defending DEI programs your math opinions may be silenced, as was the case below.

 
The question is are there enough qualified people (either from right leaning people or centrists who have grown fed up with the nonsense) to push back on this, and not fear for their own standing in the academic community (because they have options).
Agree, this is the key.

Higher education isn't built up to protect the students....it's to protect the jobs and status of the meritocrats.

The mandarins of the Qing dynasty are particularly illustrative in this case.
This scenario plays out every time power is consolidated and yet we continue to allow it to happen as if it will be different this time.
 
Current view for the most part. Not claiming that its absolute at every institution of higher education but appears to be the predominate culture.

I hope your right in terms of an alternative; right now I don't see how it happens while occupying the same space. An alternative that is separate just causes more division...if I'm making any sense.
Agree - no way it occurs in the same space and it will cause more division.
 
That's fine as long as they don't voice their opinions outside of math and science. By not defending DEI programs your math opinions may be silenced, as was the case below.

It’s not fine. You’re already starting to see the woke mob demand more black faces in math and science.

Of course, their demand does not come with an army of tutors who want to sit down and teach fractions to curious 7 year old black kids. They want to skip that step.
 
A. The vaccine reduces, but does not eliminate, the odds of infection and transmission.

The vaccine is much better at reducing your odds of hospitalization and death. Not 100% for that, either.

OMG.

That IS the sickest, most uneducated response I have witnessed in quite some time.

Please don't be offended, just regroup and use intellect before hitting Post Reply.
 
Media advocacy has replaced journalism and is driving the divide here. We have "sides" in the media now - as is always the case when advocacy is a primary objective.

It will be interesting where education ends up. Education may be the next battleground that ends up being split into "sides". The pandemic has crystallized the philosophical differences many have with the current state of their public education system. As has happened with the mainstream news organizations, education has moved more into advocacy. Bari Weiss' new approach to higher education with the University of Austin is specifically targeting the current culture on many college campuses. This will be a very ugly battle if it happens on a significant scale. There is power to be lost and it won't be given up easily - and it will be divisive.

Apparently you've not seen any of the krufuffle around charter schools. Privatization of public schools is about as divisive as it gets.
 
Apparently you've not seen any of the krufuffle around charter schools. Privatization of public schools is about as divisive as it gets.
What kind of kerfuffle are you seeing up north? Charter schools aren't perfect but the existing high schools that converted to charter have given a lot of kids the opportunity to get out of really bad high schools, at least in San Diego. At the pre-high school level you see a few fly-by-night charter schools. The charter high schools in our area are comparable to the regular publics (except for sports where the charters are superior ;)) but far better than the schools where a lot of the kids come from.

The biggest kerfuffle I hear is the crappy schools complaining that they are losing enrollment (aka $$$) to the better charter schools. Which to me is "too bad, so sad".
 
Breaking Rona News: White House will announce the strictest Covid rules ever tomorrow. Grace T, predictions on news coming out of DC? I got my rumor mill but not 100% confirmed yet.

In abortion News:
Sonia Sotomayor: "How is your interest anything but a religious view ... that's a religious view ... because it assumes that a fetus is life"

Well, let's not assume a fetus is not a life either. What a dumb dumb. Seriously, I told all my Science teachers and anyone who would listen that the fetus is human, alive, happy, has feelings and wants to be a part of life. Seriously, every kid conceived wants a chance to perform and have all the thrills life brings. 15 weeks to decide on life or death for baby is not asking for the whole house folks. Trust mem the fetus moving and sucking his thumb at this age. The fetus is not brain dead either like some people I know at this forum. These people are crazy and sick.
 
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