Well in San Diego, I'd say they're pretty good for a few days out. What's your point?
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Bruddah IZ
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He’s crafty. Be careful.
I did not call them the majority on general masking. Swedish guy is pretty famous/infamous.
I've posted the UKers before, particularly on children.
Still avoiding the bad rabbit hole I see.
Bruddah IZ
DA
The Institute of Economic Affairs’s Christopher Snowdon, rightly criticizing the appalling media coverage of Covid, pleads again with his fellow Brits to calm down about Covid. Two slices:
Much of the media dealt with the upturn in Britain’s fortunes in a much simpler way. They ignored it. In more than a few instances, they explicitly claimed that cases were still rising. Interviewing Boris Johnson on 2 November, two weeks after cases peaked, CNN’s lead anchor, Christiane Amanpour, asserted that ‘there’s a big spike in Covid in this country and the record here is worse than it is elsewhere in Europe’. The following day, deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam was asked in a BBC interview: ‘Why are schools not putting masks in place, with cases rising in school-age children?’ And Sky News tweeted: ‘With the UK’s coronavirus epidemic escalating by the day, it’s no longer a case of if Plan B will be triggered but when, say experts.’
Everyone knows the media prefer bad news to good news, but there was something almost pathological about this refusal to look the facts in the face. Could it be sheer ignorance?
On 9 November, the Evening Standard reported: ‘UK Covid deaths soar to 262.’ And the Sun ran the headline: ‘UK daily Covid deaths hit 262 in highest rise in a WEEK.’ It was a Tuesday. Anyone with even a passing interest in the statistics knows that the NHS always reports fewer deaths over the weekend and then catches up with the backlog on Tuesday. It is therefore almost inevitable that the ‘highest rise in a week’ will be seen on a Tuesday and that the figure will appear to ‘soar’ if you compare it to a Monday (which is what the Evening Standard did). When compared to the previous Tuesday, however, the number of deaths had actually fallen.
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Much of the media dealt with the upturn in Britain’s fortunes in a much simpler way. They ignored it. In more than a few instances, they explicitly claimed that cases were still rising. Interviewing Boris Johnson on 2 November, two weeks after cases peaked, CNN’s lead anchor, Christiane Amanpour, asserted that ‘there’s a big spike in Covid in this country and the record here is worse than it is elsewhere in Europe’. The following day, deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam was asked in a BBC interview: ‘Why are schools not putting masks in place, with cases rising in school-age children?’ And Sky News tweeted: ‘With the UK’s coronavirus epidemic escalating by the day, it’s no longer a case of if Plan B will be triggered but when, say experts.’
Everyone knows the media prefer bad news to good news, but there was something almost pathological about this refusal to look the facts in the face. Could it be sheer ignorance?
On 9 November, the Evening Standard reported: ‘UK Covid deaths soar to 262.’ And the Sun ran the headline: ‘UK daily Covid deaths hit 262 in highest rise in a WEEK.’ It was a Tuesday. Anyone with even a passing interest in the statistics knows that the NHS always reports fewer deaths over the weekend and then catches up with the backlog on Tuesday. It is therefore almost inevitable that the ‘highest rise in a week’ will be seen on a Tuesday and that the figure will appear to ‘soar’ if you compare it to a Monday (which is what the Evening Standard did). When compared to the previous Tuesday, however, the number of deaths had actually fallen.
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Here's a cool one too....
Today someone shared this chart, generated by the Financial Times. Try to pick out which one of these countries hasn't implemented a vaccine passport system:
I'll bet you know which one it is.
Meanwhile, parts of Europe are going back into lockdown. Austria is locking down the one-third of the population that is unvaccinated. The Netherlands is 72% fully vaccinated and is going into lockdown for everyone, vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of inanely blaming "the unvaccinated" for this, the robots on social media would at least admit that this isn't how they expected it to go, and that there shouldn't be this level of cases and deaths after the introduction of vaccines?
It's like Sweden: we were supposed to believe that Sweden would have one of the worst death rates in the world because it ignored the so-called experts demanding lockdown. Well, Sweden is currently #53 in the world for COVID death rate. Number fifty-three. Not one. Not two. Not ten. Not twenty. Fifty-three.
The crazies are still criticizing Sweden, naturally. But my question is: when you were screaming hysterically at Sweden to lock down, did you think they'd end up all the way down at number 53 in the world in death rate? Aren't you the least bit curious about that? Is there a chance that if we hadn't wrecked societies it wouldn't have made any difference anyway?
Bruddah IZ
DA
Justification for mandates we’re told.
Bruddah IZ
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Senior officials in the health service made matters worse by making outlandish claims which veered into anti-vax territory. The Health Service Journal quoted ‘one of the most respected chief executives in the NHS’ saying: ‘This is far worse than January – the vaccine hasn’t saved us this time.’ On the same day, the chief executive of NHS England, Amanda Pritchard, beclowned herself by telling the preposterous lie that we ‘have had 14 times the number of people in hospital with Covid-19 than we saw this time last year’. When it was pointed out that there are actually 30 per cent fewer people in hospital with Covid than this time last year, she ‘clarified’ that she was comparing August 2021 to August 2020 and added the frankly unbelievable claim that she didn’t have more recent figures.
Pritchard told the original fib while calling on the public to get their booster shots. Perhaps she thought that by massaging the figures she could turbo-charge national paranoia and put a rocket under the vaccination campaign. If so, she may have been mistaken. Her words were nectar to the smiley-faced ‘sceptics’ since they appeared to prove that the vaccines were not only useless but that the hospitals were virtually empty last November, as they had claimed at the time.
Pritchard told the original fib while calling on the public to get their booster shots. Perhaps she thought that by massaging the figures she could turbo-charge national paranoia and put a rocket under the vaccination campaign. If so, she may have been mistaken. Her words were nectar to the smiley-faced ‘sceptics’ since they appeared to prove that the vaccines were not only useless but that the hospitals were virtually empty last November, as they had claimed at the time.
In most of the states shown, there is a decrease. What was his (and, I assume, your) point?
Victory for common sense.
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U.S. appeals court affirms hold on Biden COVID-19 vaccine mandate
A U.S. appeals court on Friday upheld its decision to put on hold an order by President Joe Biden for companies with 100 workers or more to require COVID-19 vaccines, rejecting a challenge by his administration.
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I don't know what his point is.
I just find it fascinating. California, for example, is if the trend holds up week over week (which it may or may not) on course to have a worse winter than last year.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Jay Bhattacharya tweets:
The vaccine mandates are a prime example of a short-sighted health policy. For example, firing nurses will put health care systems at risk of being overwhelmed, harming the sick and vulnerable.
The vaccine mandates are a prime example of a short-sighted health policy. For example, firing nurses will put health care systems at risk of being overwhelmed, harming the sick and vulnerable.
Bruddah IZ
DA
You just made it for him.
Hüsker Dü
DA
If you don’t get it you never will.
What's with the coy, passive aggressive games? Just come out and say it.
If you're implying that a weather person reporting the weather is the same as medical experts predicting Covid outcomes then you are clearly confused. Ironically, most weather reporters aren't formally trained meteorologists and are in fact just reporting weather info they're getting off a computer. If you and I were better looking we could both qualify to be TV weathermen.
what-happened
GOLD
do you mean infection and disease? Remember, this is a novel virus. Just about everyone has been wrong or off on many things: treatment, prevention, transmission. Remember when people were spraying down groceries?
The truth is it's baffled every expert (except those on TV, they are the best). The vaccines are a tremendous scientific accomplishment given how little we know about this virus. The reality is that we don't yet know how to completely manage it. Vaccines may be just one tool used to treat/manage the disease. We may never be able to completely manage it. It's not going to just go away like ebola does.
Keep getting your booster and settle in. Or maybe give your immune system a crack at the virus. You'd be amazed how capable the human immune system is.
Anecdote for you: My neighbors are both physicians, 2 kids. Oldest is vaccinated (college athlete), parents are vaccinated, youngest is not. The youngest contracted the virus very early on (last year). Both parents recently contracted the virus (both vaccinated). They didn't change a thing about their home behaviors. The youngest was tested every day (antibody and PCR). Strong antibodies, always negative PCR. No way youngest needs to be vaccinated, ever, for this virus. The human immune system is a powerful thing. Funny thing, the youngest has been sick on and off over the last month with another virus going around the HS.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
I saw on good authority from known board poster, a Mr. E. Magoo, that Covid was not seasonal.
One would expect it to be seasonal based on its genetics, but the data so far does not support that judgment.
The two fields are more alike than you think.
In both cases, the guy in front of the camera is someone quite different from the data quant who tunes the computer model.
Hüsker Dü
DA
They get things wrong but we still listen because they know far more than we do.
Jackie the weather lady from KCAL9 is amazing at calling the weather and so is Dallas. This is what it takes to do weather.
