Vaccine

This isn’t just one individual. It’s darn near all of them. Is there anyone of note who argues that the general public are better off without masks?

I’ll take any epidemiologist who has 2 decades of publications and a senior position at a major research institution. Is there even one qualified person who takes that position?

If you have no grey hair on your side, then you aren’t Galileo. You’re more like the creationists who want to “teach the controversy” about evolutionary biology.
Mandates mute all arguments for freedom. Get off the fence and Embrace your inner tyrant and fascism.
 
Unlike the other two this is useful, thanks. The "may not' be possible gives me pause considering some of the result tracking studies that came out. The argument Campbell makes isn't about preventing infections but limiting them. The take away I get from your breakdown, is it may very well work to limit infection at the safe doses, but not very well but: a) we don't know for sure yet (which in my mind is a clear failure of the public health authorities...they've known this for a while and we know Fauci has been funneling money in certain ways) and b) not very efficiently (which is fine, but the argument is at the time we didn't have anything else and much of the 3rd world still doesn't have anything else). The conclusion which would hold out is so long as the dosing is kept safe, what would it do harm, since there is the possibility it seems to help. Thanks!

And if Covid-19 is a vascular disease, what impact would that have on the above?

 
Do we have to go back over five months of posts? Ivermectin has been shown to be effective against other afflictions at dosages that have been shown to have little effect on covid.

You mentioned earlier that you take advice from Joe Rogan. It shows.
IVM discussion is interesting on so many levels. The reality is that it's being prescribed all over the world for covid. The controversial way it's been reported on in the US should give everyone pause. Sometimes it works, some times it doesn't. When it works does it really work? Hard to tell but seems to work. There are clinical trials currently underway. All of the studies have been half assed for many reasons. It's also extremely safe, one of the safest drugs ever produced. That should count for something (and it does in the eyes of many providers who prescribe it). There isn't a real good scientfic reason for better trials outside of the low ROI.

The fact is it's ridiculously cheap to make. That alone makes it not very attractive to anyone that want's to make a buck or two. It's quite interesting to see how quckly it was demonized. Big Macs, Ds, 70oz drinks, and Canes Chicken are more dangerous than IVM. Oh the irony ----it's easier to get the vaccine then to get healthy. Here is your burger with your booster. Say it out loud 10 times and you'll see how easy it is to become a lemming.
 
IVM discussion is interesting on so many levels. The reality is that it's being prescribed all over the world for covid. The controversial way it's been reported on in the US should give everyone pause. Sometimes it works, some times it doesn't. When it works does it really work? Hard to tell but seems to work. There are clinical trials currently underway. All of the studies have been half assed for many reasons. It's also extremely safe, one of the safest drugs ever produced. That should count for something (and it does in the eyes of many providers who prescribe it). There isn't a real good scientfic reason for better trials outside of the low ROI.

The fact is it's ridiculously cheap to make. That alone makes it not very attractive to anyone that want's to make a buck or two. It's quite interesting to see how quckly it was demonized. Big Macs, Ds, 70oz drinks, and Canes Chicken are more dangerous than IVM. Oh the irony ----it's easier to get the vaccine then to get healthy. Here is your burger with your booster. Say it out loud 10 times and you'll see how easy it is to become a lemming.

Reality?

To sum up, here are three reasons why you should not use ivermectin to try to prevent COVID-19:
  • Ivermectin is not proven to be effective for COVID-19.
  • Using ivermectin not as it was intended can cause a variety of health risks, even death.
  • You are not a horse or a cow and a large dose of ivermectin is highly toxic.

 
Still works for me, even out of your quoted post.

Here are the first few lines of what I see --

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Here are the first few lines of what I see --

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Since you’re curious you could try:


or just google UC San Diego study on Covid-19 as a vascular disease.
 
Since you’re curious you could try:


or just google UC San Diego study on Covid-19 as a vascular disease.

Then if you’re up to it… figure out if all of your horse paste dosing articles are remotely relevant to dosing standards to deal with vascular diseases that cause inflammation that are triggered by the same S-protein.
 
General public. Not just pediatric.

Is there anyone qualified who argues that we would be better off if people like you and I did not wear masks?
Is this a concession from you that we shouldn't be masking kids

And yes there are those as well (much more in the minority) that don't believe masks work on the general public (see Scandinavia)
 
Reality?

To sum up, here are three reasons why you should not use ivermectin to try to prevent COVID-19:
  • Ivermectin is not proven to be effective for COVID-19.
  • Using ivermectin not as it was intended can cause a variety of health risks, even death.
  • You are not a horse or a cow and a large dose of ivermectin is highly toxic.

I guess I shouldn't be suprised you would unleash playbook talking points.

Yes, really. There is a world outside of this forum and the media that you consume on a daily basis. Funny thing, I bet more people have had adverse effects to vaccines than IVM.

And don't twist my words around. Vaccines aren't bad, they just aren't as advertised - you can see for yourself. IVM is not an approved medication for covid...yes, that's true. Doesn't mean that it doesn't get prescribed off label by responsible practictioners who have seen data for themselves and see the benefit of using it as treatment. Welcome to medicine.
 
For those of you interested in Europe, the numbers in central Europe (including Germany/Austria). Germany is at its highest levels ever. Austria near despite medical mask mandates and a decent vaxx rate. Discussions are now turning back to lockdowns. Interestingly Belgium is also seeing as spike, but it's not as severe as the other central european nations....maybe because it was hit among the worst in the world previously. Spain also rising but unlike even Italy the rise is miniscule (they've had 4 waves already).

A winter wave is inevitable here. Only question is how severe. My medical relatives tell me from what they are hearing from their talking head, lockdowns are already back on the table (big question being will schools in blue states be spared). We might be headed for round 3 folks!
 
Reality?

To sum up, here are three reasons why you should not use ivermectin to try to prevent COVID-19:
  • Ivermectin is not proven to be effective for COVID-19.
  • Using ivermectin not as it was intended can cause a variety of health risks, even death.
  • You are not a horse or a cow and a large dose of ivermectin is highly toxic.

Like I mentioned before, anyone that refers to Ivermectin as horse paste has already chosen a narrative.

Does Ivermectin intended for human use work against Covid? Personally IDK, just interesting to note that it seems the only ones that think it has some benefit against Covid are the doctors actually treating patients with it.

I'm fairly confident that the Dr. in this link has never treated a Covid patient with Ivermectin. Willing to wager $100 on this Espola?
 
Like I mentioned before, anyone that refers to Ivermectin as horse paste has already chosen a narrative.

Does Ivermectin intended for human use work against Covid? Personally IDK, just interesting to note that it seems the only ones that think it has some benefit against Covid are the doctors actually treating patients with it.

I'm fairly confident that the Dr. in this link has never treated a Covid patient with Ivermectin. Willing to wager $100 on this Espola?

The only "paste" reference in the article quotes an FDA report.
 
Since you’re curious you could try:


or just google UC San Diego study on Covid-19 as a vascular disease.

Interesting article. I fail to see the supposed point that covid is a vascular disease any more than it is a lung disease. A person heavily infected with the virus is likely to see declining health effects in all body systems.
 
The only "paste" reference in the article quotes an FDA report.
My bad, I shouldn't have assumed he shares that opinion since he only posted the FDA link in his article and then states in his conclusion that you shouldn't take it because "you are not a horse".

Apparently, I have a bad habit of taking people's word at face value.
 
Interesting article. I fail to see the supposed point that covid is a vascular disease any more than it is a lung disease. A person heavily infected with the virus is likely to see declining health effects in all body systems.
Actually plenty of evidence that it's mainly vascular. The impairment of blood circulation was always weird. 40% of deaths related to cardiovascular events is also weird. Inflammation, kidney damage, brain swelling. All weird stuff not usually found in SARS/H1NI. Just weird. It starts as a respiratory disease but what kills people is usually vascular related. It's why venting just didn't work. You can vent air but you still need the blood to deliver.


People are a little freaked out. A respiratory virus that infects the blood and circulates is crazy.

There is a reason why there should be a suspicious approach to figuring out how the virus was introduced to the general population. Blaming bats and wet markets isn't good enough and too vanilla. Bats are always the fall guys. Poor bats.
 
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