Those of you (if any of you) who though vaccinating 5-11 year olds would be an offramp got played for suckers. When they say the quiet part out loud: some Covidians want kids masked for maybe a year or two more.
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Bruddah IZ
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You're not alone in your lack of understanding of money. The masses, you included, don't understand that Fiat money is a government-issued currency that is not backed by a commodity such as gold. Fiat money gives central banks greater control over the economy because they can control how much money is printed. Most modern paper currencies, such as the U.S. dollar, are fiat currencies.
Age corrected data for overall covid deaths:
Of the 20 worst states, 16 fall into the “mask optional, vaccine optional, reopen early” camp.
Three of the other four are East coast states which got infected early and returned known covid patients to nursing homes.
| 1 | Mississippi | 347 | 355 |
| 2 | Texas | 261 | 312 |
| 3 | Alabama | 315 | 310 |
| 4 | Oklahoma | 288 | 295 |
| 5 | Louisiana | 282 | 293 |
| 6 | Tennessee | 283 | 286 |
| 7 | New Jersey | 295 | 284 |
| 7 | New York | 299 | 284 |
| 9 | Arkansas | 284 | 275 |
| 9 | Nevada | 260 | 275 |
| 11 | Georgia | 240 | 274 |
| 12 | District of Columbia | 226 | 267 |
| 13 | South Carolina | 263 | 256 |
| 13 | North Dakota | 267 | 256 |
| 15 | Kentucky | 247 | 250 |
| 16 | Arizona | 262 | 249 |
| 16 | Indiana | 244 | 249 |
| 18 | South Dakota | 262 | 246 |
| 19 | Rhode Island | 269 | 238 |
| 20 | Missouri | 245 | 234 |
Of the 20 worst states, 16 fall into the “mask optional, vaccine optional, reopen early” camp.
Three of the other four are East coast states which got infected early and returned known covid patients to nursing homes.
Cases are definitely seeing a noticeable uptick in California. Interior areas are getting hit the hardest, but there's been a definite uptick in heavily hit and masked Los Angeles and heavily vaxxed and masked Bay counties as well.
www.sfchronicle.com
www.latimes.com
www.mayoclinic.org
California’s COVID fortunes reverse as cases begin to climb
The change in the state’s coronavirus trajectory is “not subtle,” one expert said...
www.sfchronicle.com
COVID-19 hospitalizations rising in parts of California, a potentially ominous sign
COVID hospitalizations go up in Riverside, San Bernardino and Fresno counties, where vaccination rate is low; and in Orange County, where it's higher.
www.latimes.com
Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Symptoms and causes
www.mayoclinic.org
Desert Hound
DA
It makes no sense. They dont need a vax.
And I am amazed at the mindset that someone has a vax, but they want others to be vaxxed.
Either the vax works or it doesn't.
But the mindset of many is like the guy who wrote that article talking about his fear going to the wedding. Then making his kids sit 20 ft away from him at home before he bailed to stay somewhere else.
Bruddah IZ
DA
How are the ages "corrected"?
for the record, I think there is no doubt we'd see a higher death rate in lower vaxxed states. But that belies the question of what "vaccine optional" means...technically with the Biden order there is no vaccine optional state, or you could argue that even California is technically vaccine optional.
Further, that doesn't mean there's correlation with masks or reopening. The reopening part is also a bit of a die roll....depends if you timed it when seasonality kicked in for your area (such as NY at the beginning of the outbreak). Though isn't it interesting Florida despite the evil Ron DeSantis and his no masks, early reopening did not make top 20???
The other interesting thing from this chart is some of our richest and poorest states are in the top 20.
The guy in the article doesn't seem to realize he's more upset by the blue state and Covidian restrictions once he caught his cold than the cold itself. The only rational thing in the article is apparently he or his family saw his MIL during the time period...well if you really are worried about your elderly and you just went to a wedding and a cross country flight, why the F would you see your MIL?????
Bruddah IZ
DA
Speaking of the New York Times
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Why do you assume that vaccinations is either 0% or 100% effective?
You have plenty of evidence that the actual answer is in the middle. You are well aware that the vaccine reduces but does not eliminate risks from covid. Yet you insist on putting forward the above argument, despite knowing that is is false.
His economic theories are way older than youtube. I once traced them to the 3AM infomercials urging everyone to BUY GOLD NOW!!! because the Federal Reserve was just a fiction created to allow demonic forces to tear down America!!!
I think those have been replaced by Pat Boone commercials (man, has his career sunk low).
Bruddah IZ
DA
Why would a non-corona tissue vaccine reduce risk more than the mandated immune system? Your tyrannical bent is showing.
weren't you one of the people who was arguing that it wasn't fair to say the vax didn't work if it still was effective against serious cases and death? Are you now saying the vaccine is not sufficiently protective against serious illness and death?
Bruddah IZ
DA
Speaking of the masses. Still grappling with the Fed Funds rate eh?
Of the states which banned mask mandates, 6 out of 9 are in the top 20.
Of the states which require masks in schools, 5 out of 17 are in the top 20.
Not looking good for your argument that masks don’t do much.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Hmmm. By what historical standard, or even current risk, are we basing this "safe for children"?
Covidians, nice. How about the Masked Covidians? It echoes back to the Branch Davidians. I like the parallel
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Hahaha! Because everyone knows masks are the ONLY variable that matters.
I actually edited out the last sentence about other variables. It just sounded redundant by now.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Speaking of false.
Health officials have been warning about a potential new rise in COVID-19 in California as seniors who got their shots last winter — and haven’t received a booster shot — may start to see their immunity wane, leaving them exposed to greater risk for infection and hospitalization, and as people gather indoors more as the weather cools and the holidays approach.
Demand for booster shots has fallen below expectation in California. And each infected Californian is increasingly spreading the coronavirus to more people; as of Saturday, computer models estimated that every infected Californian was spreading the virus on average to 0.96 other people; if that number rises above 1, that will set the stage for further growth of the pandemic.
“COVID cases are beginning to rise. Winter months [mean] people indoors and more possibilities for spread,” Gov. Gavin Newsom tweeted Tuesday morning.
“Keep your immunity up,” he added. “Get your booster.”
Officials are hopeful that strict vaccination requirements in some of California’s most populated areas will help slow the spread of cases in the winter. In Los Angeles, a new city rule generally requiring patrons to show proof of full vaccination to enter venues like indoor restaurants, gyms, movie theaters, and hair and nail salons went into effect Monday, but won’t be enforced until after Thanksgiving.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Sounded? What makes you say that? Lol!