Vaccine

Talk about paralyzed by fear and inability to assess risk. If I'm in serious car accident or having a heart attack I don't give shit what the vaccination status of my first responder is. Hey thanks for saving my life, but I'm going to sue you because you might have given me Covid. What kind of POS does that? The problem is not any real liability caused by the the unvaccinated emergency workers, the problem is the feeble minded assholes that want to sue.

How ungrateful can you be? These people showed up for work for months and risked their lives with the added risk of Covid and now you want to crap on them. Un-freaking-believable.

Would you like a tissue?
 
Those EXACT SAME PEOPLE where “heros” 12 months ago, so what changed, the science or the politics?

I don't know that their politics changed, but they made their choices in face of the knowledge of the consequences. That looks like a political stance to me.
 
It appears we are losing public safety employees who do not believe in public safety and medical care employees who do not believe in medical science.

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“Quality employees”? If they won’t get vaxxed they are a liability.

Please @espola and @Hüsker Dü or anyone else that believes in mandates, answer me three questions.

1. If you or others are vaxxed and both protected from CoVid and spread CoVid at almost the same rate as the unvaxxed, why do you care if others choose not to be vaccinated?

It does not affect you. That is their choice to put themselves in harms way. It is not you or the government that needs to play mommy or daddy.

2. Understanding the above, why should anyone lose their job when they those who are unvaxxed only present danger to others who have also chosen to be unvaxxed? The vaxx is available to anyone now so there isn't any excuses.

3. Why should children ages 3 to 12 be vaxxed at all? The Flu does in fact kill 3x more children this age than CoVid. The Flu vaccine is not mandated so why should the CoVid vaccine be? One might even be able to argue that the Vaxx could kill/or harm more Children than CoVid itself.

Don't give me answer "stop the spread" as CoVid is here to stay. Positive tests have been 3x what they were a year ago from August to October, post vaccine. Understanding the above, I simply just want to know what your thinking and/or justification is knowing the above. Thanks.
 
I don't know that their politics changed, but they made their choices in face of the knowledge of the consequences. That looks like a political stance to me.
Choice based on logic, principle, or politics?

Let's see how this plays out in NYC, the AF, and elsewhere.
 
Choice based on logic, principle, or politics?

Let's see how this plays out in NYC, the AF, and elsewhere.

I don't see the logic of it. If the choice is based on principle, that is by definition politixal.


 
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Please @espola and @Hüsker Dü or anyone else that believes in mandates, answer me three questions.

1. If you or others are vaxxed and both protected from CoVid and spread CoVid at almost the same rate as the unvaxxed, why do you care if others choose not to be vaccinated?

It does not affect you. That is their choice to put themselves in harms way. It is not you or the government that needs to play mommy or daddy.

2. Understanding the above, why should anyone lose their job when they those who are unvaxxed only present danger to others who have also chosen to be unvaxxed? The vaxx is available to anyone now so there isn't any excuses.

3. Why should children ages 3 to 12 be vaxxed at all? The Flu does in fact kill 3x more children this age than CoVid. The Flu vaccine is not mandated so why should the CoVid vaccine be? One might even be able to argue that the Vaxx could kill/or harm more Children than CoVid itself.

Don't give me answer "stop the spread" as CoVid is here to stay. Positive tests have been 3x what they were a year ago from August to October, post vaccine. Understanding the above, I simply just want to know what your thinking and/or justification is knowing the above. Thanks.
IMHO its a victim mentality. If something bad happens to me its someone else's fault. The left's appeal and policies rely on a large victim class. The unvaccinated (the bogeyman) versus the vaccinated (the innocent victim) is just an outgrowth of this, but on steroids.
 
I don't see the logic of it. If the choice is based on principle, that is by definition politixal.


How's your definition of "seasonality" coming along?
 
IMHO its a victim mentality. If something bad happens to me its someone else's fault. The left's appeal and policies rely on a large victim class. The unvaccinated (the bogeyman) versus the vaccinated (the innocent victim) is just an outgrowth of this, but on steroids.
Excellent take on how the left ((Dems, Marxist, Communist, KKK, Pros, Libs)) play victim games. Just look at Espola and Husker. These are modern day Marxist. It's clear as day. That's why Marx Espola never answers a Q and his Robin is always by his side. Both are neither R or D or S or I, Just C & M!
 
I don't see the logic of it. If the choice is based on principle, that is by definition politixal.


Both certainly silly articles. The truth is 4% of the AF is refusing to comply. How do you separate 12K and still maintain readiness? As they say, leadership challenge. The services have been clear on the consequences of refusal. This will get interesting. Maybe it turns out to be nothing and everyone falls in line. Maybe it's a standoff. Bottom line is readiness is an issue, more of an issue to the Pentagon than it is to A1C Joe Schmoe.
 
Both certainly silly articles. The truth is 4% of the AF is refusing to comply. How do you separate 12K and still maintain readiness? As they say, leadership challenge. The services have been clear on the consequences of refusal. This will get interesting. Maybe it turns out to be nothing and everyone falls in line. Maybe it's a standoff. Bottom line is readiness is an issue, more of an issue to the Pentagon than it is to A1C Joe Schmoe.
Poopy boy!!!! Marx and Husker love this guy for a reason. No one is guarding the mice. I warned everyone a long time ago about this scam & plan to cheat America, lie to America and then steal from her. We the People will be in charge soon. No way my neighbors want to live with Marx and Husker types. These men are from the bloodline of Cain or his offspring or worse :(

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Both certainly silly articles. The truth is 4% of the AF is refusing to comply. How do you separate 12K and still maintain readiness? As they say, leadership challenge. The services have been clear on the consequences of refusal. This will get interesting. Maybe it turns out to be nothing and everyone falls in line. Maybe it's a standoff. Bottom line is readiness is an issue, more of an issue to the Pentagon than it is to A1C Joe Schmoe.

Air Force has a history of being coddled.

An old Navy joke -- When the Navy gets funding to establish a new air station, the first construction is on runways and hangars. When the Air Force gets similar funding, the first construction is on the officers club and swimming pool.
 
Vax vs Non Vax at the work place is not going good. It's all a part of their evil plan. Black vs White. Heaven vs Hell. R vs D. L vs C. Marxist vs God. The list goes on and on. It's "We the People of the United States of America" only in the future :) My pal said the in fighting at his company is gnarly. He has a Marx Espola/Husker type boss WHO is a dick to work for and no one likes him. He sold his soul to his boss ((ass kisser)), who sold his soul to the owner ((another ass kicker)) and it's toxic and evil place to work. However, he has bills to pay and shuts his mouth or will be fired!!! The pressure put on airline is hitting fever pitch. It's not safe to fly.

 
Air Force has a history of being coddled.

An old Navy joke -- When the Navy gets funding to establish a new air station, the first construction is on runways and hangars. When the Air Force gets similar funding, the first construction is on the officers club and swimming pool.
That's an old services joke, not germane to the Navy.
 
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