Vaccine

espola said:
There were also peaks in the summer of 2020 and the summer of 2021.
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Shit stacking, a.k.a. peaks, became the national past time of the self anointed experts in the marketing department. Dad 4 hyped the cases while denying death rates that were on the floor. Now he is abandoning those case rates to deny natural immunity by his socialist marketing of the term "anti-vaxxer" to describe the millions who have probably already had anti-bodies for the 55 million year old virus that the PCR test could never date stamp. Spare us the weather nonsense.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
When you understand that your comment above regarding COVID and the seasonality of COVID as @dad4 described it are not incompatible, you will have gained new knowledge.
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The best articles I can find on covid seasonality were published before the summer 2021 peak in USA. Meanwhile, cases and deaths are both sliding slowly downward.
 
espola said:
The best articles I can find on covid seasonality were published before the summer 2021 peak in USA. Meanwhile, cases and deaths are both sliding slowly downward.
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When you understand that your (latest) comment above regarding COVID and the seasonality of COVID as @dad4 described it are not incompatible, you will have gained new knowledge.
 
what-happened said:
It's exactly these types of statements that drive public health professionals crazy (at least the ones that stay out of politics).

The hospitization and deaths in vaccinated patients is on an upward trend througout the country. It's interesting how reluctant the CDC has been in collecting data on infections in vaccinated people and disseminating it the public. They've reluctantly pushed out data on deaths and hospitalization in places like MA, NV, WV. But don't you worry, vaccinating children 5-12 at the tail end of a pandemic is going to solve the problem. Adults seem to be very scared of young kids these days. Little germ factories.

What does a high risk anti-vaxxer look like in Santa Clara county?
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What does a high risk anti vaxxer look like in SCC?

64, overweight and diabetic but thinks he’s healthy. Won’t get a shot because he thinks he’s immune because he caught a cold in Feb 2020.

Now, if you have some brilliant plan to convince him that he actually needs the shot, go for it. I think they’re already trying everything they can think of.
 
dad4 said:
What does a high risk anti vaxxer look like in SCC?

64, overweight and diabetic but thinks he’s healthy. Won’t get a shot because he thinks he’s immune because he caught a cold in Feb 2020.

Now, if you have some brilliant plan to convince him that he actually needs the shot, go for it. I think they’re already trying everything they can think of.
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Weight loss is better than a vaccine any day.
 
what-happened said:
It's exactly these types of statements that drive public health professionals crazy (at least the ones that stay out of politics).

The hospitization and deaths in vaccinated patients is on an upward trend througout the country. It's interesting how reluctant the CDC has been in collecting data on infections in vaccinated people and disseminating it the public. They've reluctantly pushed out data on deaths and hospitalization in places like MA, NV, WV. But don't you worry, vaccinating children 5-12 at the tail end of a pandemic is going to solve the problem. Adults seem to be very scared of young kids these days. Little germ factories.

What does a high risk anti-vaxxer look like in Santa Clara county?
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Minnesota seems to be attempting to track breakthrough infections. Probably data that both Team Virus and Team Victim can quote, but clearly breakthrough infections are not a rare occurrence. Curious to know how many partially vaccinated are included in the "not fully vaccinated" category. Potentially understates breakthrough infections.

 
Get ready for the "twindemic" fear porn. It was predicted last winter and the flu ended up being virtually non-existent, but now experts are really serious that it will happen this winter. Plenty of articles, but I chose this one, because it begins "Experts Fear ...", which for most Americans means "ignore this article", but for a few it means "stock up on masks and Depends."

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Are we heading toward a COVID-19 and flu 'twindemic' this season?

Experts fear a COVID-19 and flu ’twindemic' that may result in people having both potentially dangerous infections simultaneously.
www.medicalnewstoday.com www.medicalnewstoday.com
 
Well I think it is finally time to chime in after 272 pages...

I'm vaxxed and will be having my booster this week. Even my kids are vaxxed. Bet you didn't see that coming.

BUT, I am anti-mandate and will fight mandates hand over fist.

If you want to be more protected against getting sicker with CoVid, get vaxxed. If you don't, probably not the smartest idea, but it's your life and your body. If you are vaxxed, you are as protected as you can possibly be. Vaxxed spread just as much as the un-vaxxed. Giving the government the power to tell you what to do without liberty would be the biggest mistake our country could ever make. Remember this, it will be a snowball effect. I stand for personal liberty and freedom. My body, my choice. Your body, your choice. Anything else is totalitarian and socialist.

That's all. Have a good day.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Well I think it is finally time to chime in after 272 pages...

I'm vaxxed and will be having my booster this week. Even my kids are vaxxed. Bet you didn't see that coming.

BUT, I am anti-mandate and will fight mandates hand over fist.

If you want to be more protected against getting sicker with CoVid, get vaxxed. If you don't, probably not the smartest idea, but it's your life and your body. If you are vaxxed, you are as protected as you can possibly be. Vaxxed spread just as much as the un-vaxxed. Giving the government the power to tell you what to do without liberty would be the biggest mistake our country could ever make. Remember this, it will be a snowball effect. I stand for personal liberty and freedom. My body, my choice. Your body, your choice. Anything else is totalitarian and socialist.

That's all. Have a good day.
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The crazy part is that this apparently makes you an anti-vaxxer if you don't believe everyone should be forced to get a vaccination.
 
dad4 said:
What does a high risk anti vaxxer look like in SCC?

64, overweight and diabetic but thinks he’s healthy. Won’t get a shot because he thinks he’s immune because he caught a cold in Feb 2020.

Now, if you have some brilliant plan to convince him that he actually needs the shot, go for it. I think they’re already trying everything they can think of.
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Why should you convince him/her? Almost 90% of that demographic has been vaccinated. I don't have brilliant plan and frankly don't really care. Due diligence has been done to ensure that person understands their risk.

If they are overweight, diabetic, and 64, they clearly understand the implications of their choices. I'm sure their provider has been talking about their health risk for some time. Santa Clara county is one of the safest novel virus environments in this hemisphere. Your vaccination rates are through the roof. I'm sure there are parents calling their pediatricion every day to see when the pfizer kid doses will arrive. The last piece of the puzzle for SC county is vaccinating 5-12s.

Sit back and enjoy the sunset with a glass of great wine in hand.
 
watfly said:
Minnesota seems to be attempting to track breakthrough infections. Probably data that both Team Virus and Team Victim can quote, but clearly breakthrough infections are not a rare occurrence. Curious to know how many partially vaccinated are included in the "not fully vaccinated" category. Potentially understates breakthrough infections.

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It's a good question. The CDC classifies someone passing from covid inside of 14 days after 1st dose or JJ as unvaccinated.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Well I think it is finally time to chime in after 272 pages...

I'm vaxxed and will be having my booster this week. Even my kids are vaxxed. Bet you didn't see that coming.

BUT, I am anti-mandate and will fight mandates hand over fist.

If you want to be more protected against getting sicker with CoVid, get vaxxed. If you don't, probably not the smartest idea, but it's your life and your body. If you are vaxxed, you are as protected as you can possibly be. Vaxxed spread just as much as the un-vaxxed. Giving the government the power to tell you what to do without liberty would be the biggest mistake our country could ever make. Remember this, it will be a snowball effect. I stand for personal liberty and freedom. My body, my choice. Your body, your choice. Anything else is totalitarian and socialist.

That's all. Have a good day.
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So you are pro-choice, got it.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Well I think it is finally time to chime in after 272 pages...

I'm vaxxed and will be having my booster this week. Even my kids are vaxxed. Bet you didn't see that coming.

BUT, I am anti-mandate and will fight mandates hand over fist.

If you want to be more protected against getting sicker with CoVid, get vaxxed. If you don't, probably not the smartest idea, but it's your life and your body. If you are vaxxed, you are as protected as you can possibly be. Vaxxed spread just as much as the un-vaxxed. Giving the government the power to tell you what to do without liberty would be the biggest mistake our country could ever make. Remember this, it will be a snowball effect. I stand for personal liberty and freedom. My body, my choice. Your body, your choice. Anything else is totalitarian and socialist.

That's all. Have a good day.
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Hayek would be proud.
 
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