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You forgot plays the victim and becomes a Karen when disagreed with.
Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.
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I love the name by the way, "The Kitchen." Excellent move brother. Me and Grace T can bake cookies together now
I think this meme got us put in da kitchen bro. No one even goes over there anymore. Where is Fact? Where is Husker? Where is Copa? Where is everyone? Espola, are you still with us? EOTL? My gosh, they all left. No more debate time. Oh well....
Nothing left to say on this thread.
The thread has two agitated LGBTQ advocates. Everyone else was sane and left.
I like the move to the Kitchen. I'd have moved it myself around page 15 if I could. Time for some tea.
Both eotl and I have actually taken positions which are opposed to the t activists. Sock mas position is actually closer to the activist position than the one i laid out even though sockma comes to the opposite result. Your position is the extremist one, having moved even to exclude them from rec. Your bias is showing again. Surprise surprise. Always the same from you.
as the one who started the discussion you are actually a hypocrite on this post as well. You opened the door even when others warned you there’s no good resolution on this issue. You should have known better but again no surprise there. More of the same from you.
Are you still angry that CIF, ECNL, the NCAA, the USWNT, the US Supreme Court and others all agree with me?
I love how all of you whiny Karens claim I'm the one who is complaining, when the truth is that I'm the one who is fine with how things are going.
So you are lying about alleged threats against you?
How is your daughter's "pro" career going btw?
About 80% of people who have dropped by have said some version of
1- yes, trans athletes are welcome to play soccer.
2- no, mtf trans athletes can’t choose the women’s team, because - athletically - they are not women.
There is some dispute over exactly at which age #2 kicks in.
The outliers are you, EOTL, and soccer dad & ref.
Uh, it is axiomatic that you and your four friends are the outliers given that CIF, ECNL, the NCAA, the USWNT, SCOTUS and a bunch of others agree with me, leaving you in the position of having to whine like a little baby that you aren't getting your way. Also, as even your dumbass knows, your sample size is far too small to provide any indicator of anything other than that there are four or five really whiny Karens here with daughters who are too terrible at soccer to compete against a team with a trans player. In reality, the people who support my position obviously don't have the same "need" to come here to protest anything and whine like little babies, because they're already getting what they want.
In fact, your post is a perfect example of the harm that the Internet often causes. Specifically, it gives a handful of nutters like yourself the belief that your nutter position is actually legitimate one. You have maybe five people who share your opinion here, and at least three of them even you must admit are batshit crazy - with crush leading the way - or right wing fringe. And for someone who I think is a math teacher, you must be a terrible one. Even a clown like yourself should be able to figure out that a sample size of five people is not exactly a sufficient sample size to support your fringe hatred of trans children.
Chelsea dad g09
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Are you still angry that you dont know my opinion on this and I'm just directing my insults at you because you're a hypocritical prick?
Your "because- athletically- they are not women" is another way your distort the truth. Another way you hear what you want to hear. The rationale is important. Some have argued fairness. Some have argued safety. Sockma turned it on its head and actually argued its because gender is all a social construct. The rationale is important because I have argued gender dysphoria should be treated as a disability. It is perfectly acceptable to say, for example, that an accommodation a hearing impaired person is asking for is not reasonable, or it impedes on the rights of another person (such as by having open subtitles run in front of movies where everyone can see them including those that don't want to see the subtitles). It is not o.k. to argue that trans people are not entitled to an analysis of their accommodations because they are not deserving of it, which is what you have done. It is perfectly fine to argue that FTM should not be included in tested sports, because a balance can never be achieved. It is not o.k. to argue that FTM should not be provided any accommodation or place they can play because "men are men, and women are women" and if they are left without a place to play too bad so sad they shouldn't have done what they did.
In any case, your post didn't argue the "vast majority of people here agree with me and you guys are overwhelming in the minority". You would know that it wouldn't bother me, because I follow the argument to where the science leads, and when COVID started, I was overwhelmingly alone and yet turned out to be right. What YOU DID was say that we were just LGBTQ activitists (don't think I didn't notice either that you didn't say trans activist...yet another little swipe on your part), implying therefore our position was without merit because of our status. Again, this is in your wheelhouse where you demand the unconditional surrender of the side you are arguing against because you think you are right and no one can ever question that, let alone the obvious bias you've shown. You want an echo chamber, and hate it when you are backed into a corner. The argument, as far as you are concerned, basically ended when you said it's "about the hairbow, not necessarily the training" and "they aren't soccer robots." That was the moment YOU basically conceded (as opposed to others who had been arguing fairness or safety and have done a much better job of it) that your argument held no water.
Frankly I'm surprised you aren't demanding @Dominic shut down the entire thread. You've said things which are clearly over the line, aren't exactly hard to identify if someone knows you, and I predict your stance, as with COVID, won't hold up well to posterity. I can only assume you are no longer in the teaching professional and/or have something else going on (like a disability) or you wouldn't have said some of the things you said, and indeed continue to say in even your most recent posts, at least not if you teach in California.
"Vermont Christian school girls basketball forfeits playoff game rather than compete against team with transgender player"
www.concordmonitor.com
The player is a 6'1" male-born subject "in-transition" playing on the girls team. She/He is supposedly stronger and can jump higher than any player in the league. She/He leads the league in rebounds and blocked shots as well. Imagine that.
Vermont Christian school girls basketball forfeits playoff game rather than compete against team with transgender player
The Mid Vermont Christian School girls basketball team withdrew from the Vermont Division IV state tournament because of a refusal to play against an opponent with a transgender student-athlete.The No. 12 seed Eagles were scheduled to play a...
www.concordmonitor.com
The player is a 6'1" male-born subject "in-transition" playing on the girls team. She/He is supposedly stronger and can jump higher than any player in the league. She/He leads the league in rebounds and blocked shots as well. Imagine that.
Still searching unsuccessfully for that phantom post proving me to be a hypocrite?
So here you are again refusing to discuss your position on trans participation in kiddies sports but are limiting your participation to (mostly homophobic) insults, but you think I'm the troll? Am I right that you're an undereducated, underemployed, underbrain-powered substance abuser Karen?
Look, I'm sorry if your daughter isn't good enough to compete against a team with a trans player, but that's not my fault. I also don't know why it makes you so angry when I explain why I support the middle-of-the-road positions taken by CIF, ECNL, the NCAA, the USWNT, the NWSL and SCOTUS, among others.
In other news, riddle me this...
Why is it these teens are allowed to transition and have these horrible surgeries and the excuse is mental health BUT young teens who suffer mental health issues from body image problems have to wait until they are at least 18 and that is if they have the money. Both are major mental issues that can lead to suicide. One is covered under insurance, and the other turns into bulemia or other depression issues, and is not covered by insurance.
I could expand but I don't think really need to. Inequality only works in certain situations...
Why is it these teens are allowed to transition and have these horrible surgeries and the excuse is mental health BUT young teens who suffer mental health issues from body image problems have to wait until they are at least 18 and that is if they have the money. Both are major mental issues that can lead to suicide. One is covered under insurance, and the other turns into bulemia or other depression issues, and is not covered by insurance.
I could expand but I don't think really need to. Inequality only works in certain situations...
"Vermont Christian school girls basketball forfeits playoff game rather than compete against team with transgender player"
Vermont Christian school girls basketball forfeits playoff game rather than compete against team with transgender player
The Mid Vermont Christian School girls basketball team withdrew from the Vermont Division IV state tournament because of a refusal to play against an opponent with a transgender student-athlete.The No. 12 seed Eagles were scheduled to play a...
The player is a 6'1" male-born subject "in-transition" playing on the girls team. She/He is supposedly stronger and can jump higher than any player in the league. She/He leads the league in rebounds and blocked shots as well. Imagine that.
Proof that the system works. Loser Kareny faux Christians lose again. Doesn't matter whether it's on the court, in the courtroom, or in their own cortexes, there is just so much losing by these losers. Seriously, they were #12 seed losers even before self-losing to the team with the trans player.
Are they really losing or are people just being bulldozed by people like yourself. You always site "who makes the rules" but never think about who is running those organizations. Left wing radicals like yourself, that's who. Want proof? Look at any poll of American people. Even your own Democratic party is split almost evenly while everyone else is heavy majority against trans in womens/girls sports.
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/29/1107484965/transgender-athletes-trans-rights-gender-transition-poll
Hey! You radical left wing bigot. You know what's funny, if those Christians are right, they go on the perfect vacation when moving on, you on the hand might go to hell if God isn't very forgiving. Laugh now while you can I guess? I dunno, I'm not a perfect picture of a good christian, but at least I am trying. Regardless, if there is a God, at least I have chance and well you, no idea what will happen. Now, if there isn't a god, so what? I invested my time in a creed that represents good morals and ethics. Sorry, but not many Christians live by the old testament as you like to make examples of. We live more by Jesus' teachings.
As much as I absolutely dislike people like you, I still hold out hope you can change from being the ugly person you are. I mean that.
That's because you are lying. Medicaid covers mental health for kiddies, and both the ACA and the Mental Health Parity Act require that mental health services must be covered by health insurance plans. Your suggestion that this is a zero sum game in which emotionally feeble little Karens are denied mental health benefits if they are granted to trans children is just b.s. In fact, if you believe your daughter is terrible at soccer because she is suffering from a mental illness such as bulimia or depression, I'm happy to help you work through any benefits issues. Why don't you start by posting your health insurance plan docs here, and I'll point out the language that proves you are full of shit.
Honestly, Karen, this is some seriously pathetic self-pity. Even you aren't stupid enough to actually believe that mental health services for children are not covered by insurance, which means you know you are lying and are malicious about your hatred of trans children.
IKR. Trans people and their enablers like me are just so powerful. You are such a victim.
I was waiting for someone to mention this poll. Presumably, even someone as dumb as you can figure out why it doesn't support what you claim. Of course, most people are going to say they oppose trans participation in sports when they aren't given any options about differences between kiddie, collegiate and professional sports. Of course a majority of Americans oppose what happened with Lia Thomas. Of course a majority of Americans oppose trans women from participating in NCAA or professional sports without testosterone suppression. A generic poll like this is no more appropriate than one that asks people whether they are pro- or anti-abortion without giving them the opportunity to address rape or incest.
Regardless, you seem to mistake what a poll says for what is right. A majority of Americans also hated gay people as recently as 2012, with very similar percentages of evil republicans leading the hate, as is the case in your poll. And before a majority of Americans hated gay people, they hated black people.
So please tell me more about this Jesus fella. I understand that his resurrection means it is no longer mandatory to stone gay and trans people to death anymore, but does it also mean that it's suddenly ok to be gay or trans and that his daddy was wrong initially when he wrote the parts of the bible that you want to pretend don't exist? Or does Jesus teach you that being gay and trans is still wrong, and it's therefore ok to deprive them of civil rights even if it's no longer mandatory to stone them to death? Does your buddy Jesus draw the (chalk) line in his direction to support for the downtrodden if it means they might deprive your little princess of a trophy? Honestly, I missed that part of the Bible that says ECNL can't have empathy towards trans children and must therefore be denied their free market right to decide who may and may not participate. Seriously, can you show me that part of the Bible that says we must ban trans kids? Are you saying that the bible was wrong when it says "Similarly, if anyone competes as an athlete, he does not receive the victor's crown unless he competes according to the rules"? Doesn't this mean you need to STFU and just accept your kiddie losing a trophy because ECNL rules allowed trans participation? It seems to me that all of your Karen-y whining is very anti-bible because you don't want to compete according to the rules.