Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.
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Some people use the term woke because it’s too hard to spell enlightened.
Becky Sauerbrunn on her feelings about transgender children in sports. Not that some of you may feel empathy or become enlightened by reading all of it.
Becky Sauerbrunn on her feelings about transgender children in sports. Not that some of you may feel empathy or become enlightened by reading all of it.
Becky Sauerbrunn: Let Missouri trans girls and women play
Those claiming to be concerned about women's sports should focus on real issues like unequal pay, Missouri Olympian Becky Sauerbrunn writes.
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Surfer Bethany Hamilton speaks out against new rule allowing transgender women to compete with females
Bethany Hamilton, mom, author and professional surfer, is speaking out against a new policy by the World Surf League that will allow trans women to complete against biological females in surfing.
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The Olympics have their own rules....
I suspect that any NWSL or WNT player who disagrees with Sauerbrunn on this knows enough to keep her mouth shut.Some people use the term woke because it’s too hard to spell enlightened.
Becky Sauerbrunn on her feelings about transgender children in sports. Not that some of you may feel empathy or become enlightened by reading all of it.
Becky Sauerbrunn: Let Missouri trans girls and women play
Those claiming to be concerned about women's sports should focus on real issues like unequal pay, Missouri Olympian Becky Sauerbrunn writes.www.news-leader.com
Jaelene Daniels was essentially run out of the league for refusing to wear a pride jersey. If you’re a marginal player hoping to make WNT, you’re not going to put that at risk by publicly taking a position that can be branded as anti-gay or anti-trans.
100% Dad. You better follow the leaders, agree with all their life style choices & don't ask any questions and you best better STFU. Something is not right and were all about to find out whose been acting like a female in a mans body all these years.
Maybe you can stop pretending you aren't given your complete lack of empathy and because your definition of "fair" intentionally excludes any consideration of the interests of trans gender children. You have proven pretty clearly that you are transphobic.
So I take it you are finally admitting that your daughter is so terrible at soccer that she can't compete against trans girls who have played ECNL? It is unfair because your daughter is terrible at soccer? What about for the girls who don't suck at soccer and have no problem with trans players?
Sure. My daughter is so bad at soccer that she can’t beat a 16 year old boy.
The same is true of Alex Morgan, Catarina Macario, and Debinha. None of them can beat a 16 year old boy, either. This is why WNT scrimmages U15 boys teams. They’d get whupped if they tried playing a quality U16 team.
Employers have every right to take action against employees who harass their co-workers based on sexual orientation, or any protected class. If you're going to trash teammates in public based on their sexual orientation and tell the world that you think many of your teammates should relegated to second class status and deprived of their civil rights, you deserve to get fired just as much as if you trash them based on their race. Period. This should not be the least bit controversial. It is only "controversial" to people who also hate gay people.
Despite, this she was not "run out of the league" for wearing a pride jersey. She played another three years for Pride without incident. Courage then brought her back in 2022 after she took two seasons off to have a baby and then finished out the season after she refused to wear a pride jersey again for Courage. In fact, Courage issued a press release stating that it respected her decision. They did not bring her back for 2023 because she is old and not very good anymore.
Ha ha. There have been 16 year old trans girls who have played ECNL, and none of them were even the best players on their own teams. Unlike your fragile little princess, neither my kid nor any of her teammates were either scared of or outclassed by any of the trans girls they played against. All of your hysteria that maybe your kid will be forced to play an entire team of trans girls is irrational. Your hysteria that maybe an elite biological male will suddenly "go trans" and turn a youth soccer game into a mockery of sport is also irrational. None of this has ever happened in history but, if it does, there are 100 ways to address it short of just telling all trans girls in advance - regardless of their actual athleticism - that your daughter winning a trophy to prop up her (or your) self-esteem is just far too important to let them participate.
BTW, if you want to keep any job, it is preferable not to go on television and publicly proclaim that you had many of your teammates and do not believe they should be entitled to equal rights. It doesn't matter whether you're claiming that black people should be required to sit at the back of the bus, jews have horns, or gay people should not be allowed to get married or adopt children. You deserve to get fired for telling your co-workers any of those things. It doesn't matter whether you do it in person or through a television screen.
BTW, if you want to keep any job, it is preferable not to go on television and publicly proclaim that you hate many of your teammates and do not believe they should be entitled to equal rights. It doesn't matter whether you're claiming that black people should be required to sit at the back of the bus, jews have horns, or gay people should not be allowed to get married or adopt children. You deserve to get fired for telling your co-workers any of those things. It doesn't matter whether you do it in person or through a television screen.
Fixed my typo.
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This is the point I was trying to make earlier. I'm not saying some of these folks are racists, but this is very similar to the 1950s segregationists. They believed their opinion on the matter was valid. That was not an opinion, it was racism. Many transphobic people here are using similar arguments, and history will not look back kindly on them.
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Hysteria is all they have to be honest.
I at first thought you were being too harsh on them by bringing up their daughters, but I see the point you are tying to make.
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You've come back to your talking point that some people have opinions that matter, and some people do not.
And, naturally, you imagine yourself deciding which are which.
As before, no discussion is possible on that basis.
I could be wrong, but I think you've already made that bs statement once or twice already. One thing I do know, however, is that your children have no business in sports because they're terrible at them.
I do relish your participation, however, because it is people like you who best prove my point. Even your fellow transphobes scatter like cockroaches when you roll in.
Meh...I get the point...he's basically saying the people in the 1950s that supported segregation didn't think they were racists and thought they were rationally and reasonably in the right instead of acting out of bias. That's the thing about bias...it's hard to recognize in the moment when you are the one holding them. What's more is numerous people have now pointed out to you in particular your bias, but rather than take a moment and reflect and say "hmm...maybe I am....I ought to at least consider it", you double down. You are perfectly capable of having a rationale position on this issue without falling back on the bias and judging rationally what's going on here, and that is perfectly capable of leading various individuals to various different conclusions of what's right, particularly as we get to the middle, harder cases. But that's not what you are doing (see kicking or maarspeed for people that actually did that). What's worse, you accuse him of "naturally, you imagine yourself deciding which are which" when he was quite clear history would be the judge. What worser than worse, you then do the same thing you accuse him of doing by saying "no discussion is possible on that basis" by appointing your the sole judge and arbiter of that. What's worser than the worser, the fact that you are (or were...we never did get a clear explanation of what happened there) an educator and given you have to act with a broad range of children and/or young adults, you'd think someone in that profession would be a little more introspective. What's worst of all, this is a similar dance we've seen before from you.
My point is more that, even if you think someone is racist/communist/fascist/whatever, you still owe them the courtesy of listening to their argument and evaluating it on its own merits.
So, the best way to understand a 1950s segregationist or 1950s Maoist is to listen to them make their case in their own words. You may still disagree, but at least you treat each other as sentient beings.
That's not quite what I see from SF and SDR in this thread. I see a whole lot of "you're a transphobe" or "your daughter sucks". Not really much to respond to there.
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