Surf Players Being Discouraged from playing HS?

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It was not pretty for Sharks but to be accurate:
U19 1-0 Surf
U17 2-0 Surf (Deza coached)
U16 6-0 Surf
U15 4-0 Surf (includes MW recruits) (Deza coached)
U14 6-0 Surf (MW coached team with multiple Albion recruits)
U13 6-1 Surf (MW coached team and 90% his Albion 09 team)

MW is not the savior everyone seems to think he will be for Sharks. He doesn't have the patience, coaching skill, nor does San Diego have enough talent outside Surf to be competitive in the Sonoran division. MW was out coached by CB in the 09 game as well by DT in the 08 game. The older Sharks coaches made better adjustments than MW in their games to keep it close.
Someone is wayyyyyy too invested and spending wayyyyy too much time with youth soccer.

MW seems like nice guy, but if I'm being completely honest, I always thought his teams played a lot of kickball. Watch his defenders, do they try to possess and pass the ball out and around or just blast the ball out of bounds or forward over the midfield? Maybe that's changed.
 
MW is a fantastic coach and an even better guy but if any of you seriously think that Surf will lose out you are nuts. I watched 4/5 of the games on Sunday and the scores didn’t tell the story. Every game could have been 10+.
somebody else is wayyyyy too "invested" in youth soccer.
 
I don't think anyone here is saying that Red. Surf's rock solid starting 11 are not going anywhere, or even the 12-14 that get enough playing time. It's the 15 to 20, and solid ECRL players that Sharks may be able to pick up here and there that improve their starting 11. At least to a point to give other teams in the league better games. That's clearly the objective, and that situation would be better for everyone involved I would think.
don't be so sure, Surf has lost top starters from its 2004, 2005, and 2006 team through the years.
 
I'm pretty sure last ECNL is in Tennessee this weekend and last GA is following weekend at Silverlakes. Shouldn't all girls be free for a couple months to play High School then?

Alyssa Thompson seemed to have no issues playing club (top 10 ranked) and High School (Player of the year)

Silverlakes is hosting a pretty big High School Tournament Dec. 20-22. SilverLakes Winter Classic.
 
Someone is wayyyyyy too invested and spending wayyyyy too much time with youth soccer.

MW seems like nice guy, but if I'm being completely honest, I always thought his teams played a lot of kickball. Watch his defenders, do they try to possess and pass the ball out and around or just blast the ball out of bounds or forward over the midfield? Maybe that's changed.
MW's teams were actually known for their passing. The 2006 National Championship team was notorious for the entertaining style of play. Don't take my work for it. Look up the old posts from 2-3 years ago.
 
Great. You should use that logic to send your kid to CSUN instead of Stanford. BTW, Pepperdine is ranked #209 for best universities by salary potential. 2021 College Rankings by Salary Potential | Payscale. Definitely the best option for a kid, especially because it's a private school.
You rank schools by graduates’ salaries. So you recommend my kid should play for Harvey Mudd?

Not a bad idea, actually. The games would be closer than if she played for MIT.

Either way, it’s time to stop worrying about ECNL and pay more attention to robotics.
 
MW's teams were actually known for their passing. The 2006 National Championship team was notorious for the entertaining style of play. Don't take my work for it. Look up the old posts from 2-3 years ago.
I can substantiate your post. My youngest 06 DD played for LAGSB and LAG DA. We went head to head with MW 06 Albion team for several years. Great battles playing possession minded soccer. I won't post it but I have the film from some of those games.
 
They certainly lost some over the years. Back to the point, however, how many of them went to Sharks? I can't think of any.
If Surf players were leaving the club several years ago it would be for DA (Albion or City) or went to Blues.

Sharks have a DOC that can make things happen now so it remains to be seen if this is an option.
 
I can substantiate your post. My youngest 06 DD played for LAGSB and LAG DA. We went head to head with MW 06 Albion team for several years. Great battles playing possession minded soccer. I won't post it but I have the film from some of those games.

To be fair, and this is by no means a knock on MW, but its easier to play good soccer and make the coach look good when you are flush with smart, athletic and skilled players. When a team is outmatched is when you tend to see more panic long balls and lumpier soccer. That Albion 06 team was pretty stacked. Many of those players bailed to Surf last year though when the DA folded.
 
To be fair, and this is by no means a knock on MW, but its easier to play good soccer and make the coach look good when you are flush with smart, athletic and skilled players. When a team is outmatched is when you tend to see more panic long balls and lumpier soccer. That Albion 06 team was pretty stacked. Many of those players bailed to Surf last year though when the DA folded.
When the DA broke, 1 went to Surf, 1 to Sharks, 6 to Rebels, 1 to Blues RL who is back to Albion and one moved to Texas. They were a talented group for sure.
 
To be fair, and this is by no means a knock on MW, but its easier to play good soccer and make the coach look good when you are flush with smart, athletic and skilled players. When a team is outmatched is when you tend to see more panic long balls and lumpier soccer. That Albion 06 team was pretty stacked. Many of those players bailed to Surf last year though when the DA folded.
He had those players for many years. Developed those players. They did not always play in this manner. It took time. So, the year they won Regionals at Far West was a high point.
 
Someone is wayyyyyy too invested and spending wayyyyy too much time with youth soccer.

MW seems like nice guy, but if I'm being completely honest, I always thought his teams played a lot of kickball. Watch his defenders, do they try to possess and pass the ball out and around or just blast the ball out of bounds or forward over the midfield? Maybe that's changed.
Nonsense, you've confused him with someone else. My kids played MW's teams for years and they were always well coached and disciplined passing/possession teams. As I recall, they could be knocked off their game with physical & speed kickball. In the end, they were always great games, losing more of the matchups than won. Given time, he'll have an impact at Sharks.
 
Someone is wayyyyyy too invested and spending wayyyyy too much time with youth soccer.

MW seems like nice guy, but if I'm being completely honest, I always thought his teams played a lot of kickball. Watch his defenders, do they try to possess and pass the ball out and around or just blast the ball out of bounds or forward over the midfield? Maybe that's changed.
I also disagree. We've watched him coach for years and we've watched him develop mediocre players from just being decent to true ballers. He knows how to develop players but he also knows how to adjust during the game and he defiently knows how to win. There have been so many games where on paper MW is outmatched with stronger horses but pulls out a win. He is smart and isn't bound to one style of play. Playing out the back and having defenderd that PASS and don't just kick is one of the most important ways to control a game. If you are not seeing it from Sharks now it is only becuase he has just started, they will be controlling it out of the back in no time, trust me. I think it's true...Surf will not lose any of their starters to sharks. They will be getting high Surf ECNLR players and those on the first team who are recieving very little playing. Besides from the Surf first team....it should be a no brainer for any G07 and below to move to Sharks. It is 1 of 3 ECNL clubs in socal, has a strong new DOC who is a great coach and good guy, and is local. I honeslty can't think of a reason why anyone who is decent would not go. I have never heard of or seen anything other than great things come from MW. I predict that by the end of next season Sharks will have at least 5 Girls teams in top 4 of their league...I've seen him do it. If my girls weren't in their final year of recruitng I'd take them in a heart beat.
 
I also disagree. We've watched him coach for years and we've watched him develop mediocre players from just being decent to true ballers. He knows how to develop players but he also knows how to adjust during the game and he defiently knows how to win. There have been so many games where on paper MW is outmatched with stronger horses but pulls out a win. He is smart and isn't bound to one style of play. Playing out the back and having defenderd that PASS and don't just kick is one of the most important ways to control a game. If you are not seeing it from Sharks now it is only becuase he has just started, they will be controlling it out of the back in no time, trust me. I think it's true...Surf will not lose any of their starters to sharks. They will be getting high Surf ECNLR players and those on the first team who are recieving very little playing. Besides from the Surf first team....it should be a no brainer for any G07 and below to move to Sharks. It is 1 of 3 ECNL clubs in socal, has a strong new DOC who is a great coach and good guy, and is local. I honeslty can't think of a reason why anyone who is decent would not go. I have never heard of or seen anything other than great things come from MW. I predict that by the end of next season Sharks will have at least 5 Girls teams in top 4 of their league...I've seen him do it. If my girls weren't in their final year of recruitng I'd take them in a heart beat.
This is exactly how I see things going as well.

Surf will always have the name and brand but it's going to get diluted as Sharks start pulling sidelined talent.

Seems like a no-brainer if you're a bubble player at Surf. Continue sitting on the bench or start at Sharks. They play in the same ECNL league + you have a better chance of being ID'd.
 
This is exactly how I see things going as well.

Surf will always have the name and brand but it's going to get diluted as Sharks start pulling sidelined talent.

Seems like a no-brainer if you're a bubble player at Surf. Continue sitting on the bench or start at Sharks. They play in the same ECNL league + you have a better chance of being ID'd.
I firmly believe that anyone who signs up to play soccer under the age of 17 should actually get in the game and play minutes. Seriously, why sign up? I know one player when she was 11 was super fast but didnt make the A team. In fact, she was on the C team. Why C team? Because she wanted to play most of the game so she could get better. Today, she is on the A team going to one of the best schools in our country on a soccer scholarship. Based on all the great things about MW, the club will do great and will be a great option for the girls who dont want to be in a pool of 40 hoping to be called out of that pool so they could play in the game.
 
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