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We vaccinate in this country, some people choose not to. There is no vaccine yet for this virus. Have you and your kids been vaccinated for hepatitis B? Polio? Tetanus? Chicken pox? You dont need 100% of the population to be vaccinated to develop herd immunity. Unless you manually turned off your GPS, you are being tracked. That information can be used and it has been used in some cases. I'd prefer GPS tracking for contact tracing compared to a country wide lockdown. That's what south korea did.
Having GPS tracking available and actually getting an entire country to use it effectively for contract tracing are two different things. People went nuts having to temporarily shutdown to slow the virus impact. There is no way they are going to be OK with opening up GPS to contact trace.
 
We vaccinate in this country, some people choose not to. There is no vaccine yet for this virus. Have you and your kids been vaccinated for hepatitis B? Polio? Tetanus? Chicken pox? You dont need 100% of the population to be vaccinated to develop herd immunity. Unless you manually turned off your GPS, you are being tracked. That information can be used and it has been used in some cases. I'd prefer GPS tracking for contact tracing compared to a country wide lockdown. That's what south korea did.

Technically, the tracking is not done by GPS. It is done by triangulating among cellphone towers.
 
Question SoCal parents. I know many of you on here have stated that players are staying put on their former GDA teams. But I know realities will be different. How many players are now being impacted because of movement?
 
Having GPS tracking available and actually getting an entire country to use it effectively for contract tracing are two different things. People went nuts having to temporarily shutdown to slow the virus impact. There is no way they are going to be OK with opening up GPS to contact trace.
if you would have asked if the public would have been ok with forcibly shutting down businesses, beaches, church gatherings, schools, etc. I bet you would have said it was impossible. I would think forcing your business to close is a little more harsh than GPS tracking you to alert you if you came in contact with someone who was COVID positive. If we are to believe the media who says the vast majority of people are ok with the lockdown, then more people would be ok with the GPS tracking than you think. will there be people that don't want that? sure. Just like in korea and the people who still went to nightclubs during the height of the pandemic.
 
You are wrong on this one. The coach doesn't care what name is on the kid's jersey. My kid played on a middle of the pack ECNL team and JW not AC was doing the initial recruiting at the time and my kid was seen playing against the Slammers and Blues of the world. As a matter of fact in her recruiting class the only players that were signed from California played for Strikers (my kid) and two from Surf. They offered a kid from Beach but she chose to go to U$C because they gave her a full ride and unfortunately she was the third rated player at her position in their eyes and couldn't come close to the Trojans offer. Hailie Mace played for Eagles her last two years and that is how AC saw her when she was checking on her other recruits. She saw this blond dominating the game and found out that she wasn't on anybody's radar and that is a fact.

The club doesn't matter as much as the coach. The coach doesn't matter as much as the player. A great player playing for any team against great teams is going to be noticed. My kid's team her U17 season didn't even make it to Champions League but guess what, I spent about $4k on her degree from UCLA out of my own pocket.

Coaches may come see games between clubs with familiar names but the top schools want impact players.

I actually think we agree, in fact I agree with everything you are saying. Your kid played on an ECNL club and so did Mace at the end. If Mace hadn’t, she never would have been found.
I agree that you don’t need to be in the biggest ECNL club, because playing on any ECNL team will give you exposure, because you will have some opportunity to get seen taking it to Blues and Surf. Of course they will take a better Strikers player over a lesser Blues player, but they both were on the radar by virtue of playing for good coaches in ECNL clubs. If you play in a lesser club that is not ECNL, odds are much lower that you will end up where you could. Mace is maybe the best example of that, or maybe Lynn Williams.
 
if you would have asked if the public would have been ok with forcibly shutting down businesses, beaches, church gatherings, schools, etc. I bet you would have said it was impossible. I would think forcing your business to close is a little more harsh than GPS tracking you to alert you if you came in contact with someone who was COVID positive. If we are to believe the media who says the vast majority of people are ok with the lockdown, then more people would be ok with the GPS tracking than you think. will there be people that don't want that? sure. Just like in korea and the people who still went to nightclubs during the height of the pandemic.




As long as you continue to discards facts in order to support your position, people are going to know that you are clueless whether I point it out or not.
 
In simple terms :
If we don't open up the economy soon , tens of millions will be impacted in the near future when we have :

a major economic depression.
more unemployed
more people going into debt
more people losing their homes
more people having trouble buying food from no income
more scarcity of food available from lack of production and distribution
More people who have nothing to do
more people going into depression
more people turning to drugs and alcohol and suicide resulting in more deaths and mental health problems
more people turning to crime , resulting in more deaths
more people protecting what they have , resulting in more deaths
riots breaking out , resulting in more deaths
government stepping in to protect us all with temporary authoritarian tactics , resulting in more deaths and less freedom
government making their authoritarian tactics permanent because they know whats best for us , resulting in more deaths and less freedom.

you cannot eliminate risk in life
you cannot just consider the short term consequences of your actions relating to death
you have to also consider the long term consequences of your actions relating to death

By waiting too long to open the economy we may have many more deaths from the long term consequences then deaths from the short term.
And we may be risking our freedom for ourselves, our children , our grand children and generations to come .

I personally am in a high risk category for the virus.
Regardless of what others choose to do.
I can always choose to shelter in home and do social distancing , if I feel that is the best for me,
I don't think we should take away the freedom of others to provide for their family , live a free
life and perhaps put their lives and their freedom at risk in the future because of our short term thinking now .


We have fought wars for our freedom .
History says that there are always people willing to take your freedom away , usually for your own good or just because they can.
There was a quote during the revolutionary war that said " give me liberty or give me death ".
Freedom is important.
So what you are saying is that those with mental issues will die and those with no mental toughness will
Massive testing - Check, Paid for by the government - check, production of test kits - check, legally enforced quarantine - check. U.S. is doing all those things. Not everyone wears a mask here but not everyone wears it in korea as well. tracking people (By GPS) which is already done unless you manually turn of your GPS when you get your phone. some people do it willingly by checking in to different locations they go. Not all schools were closed in korea, bars and nightclubs were still open in korea. You can check some yelp reviews, some clubs didn't let foreigners in so you might see some bad reviews. The thing korea didn't do was a countrywide lock down like us which ruins an economy. Forcing people to stay indoors will lower their immune system, lack of exercise is also bad for the immune system.
Are you ok? Seriously there's something wrong with you. Yes, there are people that could do better at financial planning. But there's are some people that don't make much therefore can't save much. Then life can happen, death of a spouse or parent. I don't feel as bad for people with 100k salaries but there are many more people that barely get by not making that much. You are out of touch on top of being really odd. I hope someone is looking after you.
I am serious, I raised three kids on my own, no child support or alimony and had a low paying job. Had a really rough year where I had to work three jobs for about 9 months and swore I would never let that happen again. I saved, in about 5 years I had at least six months income in the bank that I could stretch to eight months if needed. The money is still in the bank! You are delusional if you think that people can't save. I drove my Toyota Corolla for nineteen years until the bottom rusted out and I could see the road below the seat. Finally donated it, nobody wanted it. There are second hand stores for just about everything. We didn't go out to eat, I could go on and on. Go enjoy your beer, tacos, McDonalds or whatever your food preference is. There is great freedom in knowing that you have emergency funds, have saved for special events, and saved for your retirement. Self discipline is great! Try it sometime!
 



As long as you continue to discards facts in order to support your position, people are going to know that you are clueless whether I point it out or not.
You might want read what I wrote again.

"If we are to believe the media who says the vast majority of people are ok with the lockdown, then more people would be ok with the GPS tracking than you think."

he was saying people wouldn't allow GPS tracking, Im saying based on what media says about how the vast majority of people feel about the lockdown, they would probably be ok with GPS contact tracing as well. take your time reading next time.
 
Question SoCal parents. I know many of you on here have stated that players are staying put on their former GDA teams. But I know realities will be different. How many players are now being impacted because of movement?
There are vultures out there who are swooping down to grab as many top players as they can and then dropping current players. It will be interesting to see if there is even a season ahead.
 
So what you are saying is that those with mental issues will die and those with no mental toughness will


I am serious, I raised three kids on my own, no child support or alimony and had a low paying job. Had a really rough year where I had to work three jobs for about 9 months and swore I would never let that happen again. I saved, in about 5 years I had at least six months income in the bank that I could stretch to eight months if needed. The money is still in the bank! You are delusional if you think that people can't save. I drove my Toyota Corolla for nineteen years until the bottom rusted out and I could see the road below the seat. Finally donated it, nobody wanted it. There are second hand stores for just about everything. We didn't go out to eat, I could go on and on. Go enjoy your beer, tacos, McDonalds or whatever your food preference is. There is great freedom in knowing that you have emergency funds, have saved for special events, and saved for your retirement. Self discipline is great! Try it sometime!
You are the exception not the rule. Strange, people assume republicans like myself have no compassion but this guy is evil. Some people fall on hard times that are beyond what they control. I agree more people need financial competence, but to say everyone should be able to do it is false. Some people need help because they are in a situation beyond their control.
 
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Dude, are you even reading what I write? I literally said old people and sick people can stay quarantined. Healthy young people should be free to work IF they want. There are plenty of people willing to drop off supplies for those that are too at risk to go out. I'm sure you would be at the top of that list. So my method, would not only protect old and sick people, but we would also be generating income and taxes to support a stimulus check if needed. How is that trading old peoples lives for opening up the country? Just because the country opens up doesn't mean old people have to come out. If old people are already out and about then they are already at risk. we can still maintain 6 feet, no additional risk.
So explain this then... what do you say to those who are elderly/ disabled/ pregnant/ immune compromised and are living with healthy people, when everything opens up again. What then? Does that mean that the one person has to go away and live by themselves until a vaccine is created. If the healthy family members go back into the community where there’s now a higher chance of exposure, they now bring a higher risk of exposure to their family member. No matter how you want to see this, you are basically saying that my life as an immune compromised person is expendable, because the aforementioned scenario is exactly what’s happening in my home, and it’s my family’s biggest fear.
 
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So explain this then... what do you say to those who are elderly/ disabled/ pregnant/ immune compromised and are living with healthy people, when everything opens up again. What then? Does that mean that the one person has to go away and live by themselves until a vaccine is created. If the healthy family members go back into the community where there’s now a higher chance of exposure, they now bring a higher risk of exposure to their family member. No matter how you want to see this, you are basically saying that my life as an immune compromised person is expendable, because the aforementioned scenario is exactly what’s happening in my home, and it’s my family’s biggest fear.
You said "If the healthy family members go back into the community where there’s now a higher chance of exposure"

nobody is forcing the healthy family member to go back into the community. We can maintain the current procedures for social distancing like in grocery stores and we can implement them in other places of businesses as well. We cant keep printing money forever hoping the vaccine will be made soon. healthy people with less than 1% fatality rate can be your "heroes' generating income so that you can get a stimulus check to hold you over. We can even compromise and go back to lockdown if it appears we are going to overwhelm our hospitals. We all know the lockdown isn't a cure, its just waiting to die (being sarcastic here) or get the vaccine, which ever is sooner. The lockdown was just to flatten the curve remember?
 
You are the exception not the rule. Strange, people assume republicans like myself have no compassion but this guy is evil. Some people fall on hard times that are beyond what they control. I agree more people need financial competence, but to say everyone should be able to do it is false. Some people need help because they are in a situation beyond their control.
Agree, I had a year where I needed help and didn't get it. But learned. Probably 80% of people could definitely do better, even if it means dropping club soccer! Imagine saving $2,000 to $3,000 a year for three years and banking that amount. You then would have six to nine thousand dollars in the bank and that is with just dropping one thing. I would love to see a survey of how many times a week families eat out, or stop for beverages or buy lunch instead of bringing something from home. I suspect people would be shocked at how much they spend over the course of a month. Read an interesting story about a family who set a goal of not buying anything new for one year. Wish more people would really read stories like this or the one about the man who worked as a custodian his whole life. He and his wife never had children but upon his death, his wife died first, he left an estate of over two million dollars. That was working a minimum wage job his entire life. That was an amazing story! Unfortunately, people want immediate gratification and lack the self discipline to do what would actually make them feel secure and free and rally enjoy their life. Oh well, human nature.
 
Agree, I had a year where I needed help and didn't get it. But learned. Probably 80% of people could definitely do better, even if it means dropping club soccer! Imagine saving $2,000 to $3,000 a year for three years and banking that amount. You then would have six to nine thousand dollars in the bank and that is with just dropping one thing. I would love to see a survey of how many times a week families eat out, or stop for beverages or buy lunch instead of bringing something from home. I suspect people would be shocked at how much they spend over the course of a month. Read an interesting story about a family who set a goal of not buying anything new for one year. Wish more people would really read stories like this or the one about the man who worked as a custodian his whole life. He and his wife never had children but upon his death, his wife died first, he left an estate of over two million dollars. That was working a minimum wage job his entire life. That was an amazing story! Unfortunately, people want immediate gratification and lack the self discipline to do what would actually make them feel secure and free and rally enjoy their life. Oh well, human nature.
I don't think many people here with kids in club soccer have a problem saving for emergency situations. There are significantly more people in this country that aren't as blessed as you, fully aware they need to save but cant. you should really recognize that.
 
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So explain this then... what do you say to those who are elderly/ disabled/ pregnant/ immune compromised and are living with healthy people, when everything opens up again. What then? Does that mean that the one person has to go away and live by themselves until a vaccine is created. If the healthy family members go back into the community where there’s now a higher chance of exposure, they now bring a higher risk of exposure to their family member. No matter how you want to see this, you are basically saying that my life as an immune compromised person is expendable, because the aforementioned scenario is exactly what’s happening in my home, and it’s my family’s biggest fear.

It is pointless debatIng anyone who cannot accept the moral dilemma that what they want will result in people dying. Their religion prevents them from choosing their wallet over morality, so they need to make up excuses that deny that is what they are doing. So they make up one crazier way after the next to rationalize their selfishness. Seriously, killing more old people saves lives? The olds deserve to die if they go outside, need convalescent or hospital care, or lack the resources and family assistance to stay home? We should just do what S Korea did although it is not possible here, because that way I can blame others for all these deaths when other people didn’t or couldn’t do what S Korea did? Shoot, @Ellejustus is even arguing that dying is for their own good.

You can only mock these people. It is the only way.
 
It is pointless debatIng anyone who cannot accept the moral dilemma that what they want will result in people dying. Their religion prevents them from choosing their wallet over morality, so they need to make up excuses that deny that is what they are doing. So they make up one crazier way after the next to rationalize their selfishness. Seriously, killing more old people saves lives? The olds deserve to die if they go outside, need convalescent or hospital care, or lack the resources and family assistance to stay home? We should just do what S Korea did although it is not possible here, because that way I can blame others for all these deaths when other people didn’t or couldn’t do what S Korea did? Shoot, @Ellejustus is even arguing that dying is for their own good.

You can only mock these people. It is the only way.
You and espola really need some practice on reading comprehension lol.
 
There are vultures out there who are swooping down to grab as many top players as they can and then dropping current players. It will be interesting to see if there is even a season ahead.

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