Has it been determined what the 4 clubs that have GAL and ECRL will do with the A team and B teams and it appears that DPL will still operate as a second tier to GA so for those 4 clubs do they put the C team in DPL? Talking about Beach Legends Pateodores West Coast and from what it sounds like reading this thread each club is doing it different and if you are putting your B team in ECRL how does that help your chances of getting into ECNL when ECNL was rumored to never be happy with clubs with dual membership DA and ECNL putting it's A teams in DA.
Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA
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Messi>CR7
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Before a bunch of 5 year olds who had to have the last word hijacked this thread, @eric mentioned his kid's team (not sure which club) will play both GAL and ECRL.
This is indeed creating a lot of intriguing scenarios. If you think your club is a strong candidate to be included in the next expansion, perhaps you put your best teams in ECRL. If not, maybe placing your bet on the new GAL league instead. Who is to say Surf, Blues, or Slammers won't do well enough in ECRL to warrant a 2nd team (3rd team in Slammers' case) in the ECNL ahead of some of these 4 clubs?
I do hope ECNL gives some clarity on expansion/promotion/demotion for the sake of girls/families involved. Otherwise, I can see this website turn into a College Football Playoff type of forum. We will be arguing about who deserve to get promoted by debating quality of victory, margin of victory, quality of losses, key player missing in certain games, etc.
ECNL lost a lot of credibility by excluding so many top 100 clubs. Clarity on promotion/relegation would be welcome, but I don’t see anything in ECNL’s past that indicates a willingness to do it.
If current big ECNL clubs get a second team before Legends or Top Hat get a first, I wouldn’t look to win/loss records for the explanation.
I can only speak to Beach xDA teams/staff and they will be playing/coaching the ECRL teams.
SoccerGuru
SILVER ELITE
Agreed! That is why I don't think Beach or Legends gets in next year either. Surf and Real So Cal got their answers about entry into ecnl immediately and so far beach and legends have been kept in the dark about what it will take to get in. I think the reason they aren't giving clarity is because they have no intention adding them next year which sucks from a competition viewpoint and for all those families. I hope ecnl gives them a chance whether that be pro/rel a playoff or even a one game must win to get in. But based on ecnl's silence to beach and legends, I don't think it happens next year. I really hope I am wrong.
vegasguy
GOLD
You did not say you... you said the league and the player.. maybe I get you and EOTL mixed up. who knows. this really is not that serious.
MSK357
GOLD
yup, you got confused. I never said that. I don't care who I play, but I prefer less travel. I hope the map gets realigned and I don't have drive outside of socal for regular games. That's the way I read Lavers comments in the article I posted. Just my opinion and how I see ECNL moving forward. Agree to disagree.
vegasguy
GOLD
Sorry boredom and acting twelve took over. And yes I was just messing around playing for the last word.
Those top teams I am sure have been given their pathway from ECRL to ECNL. The other half of it is why not put our teams in the ECRL they have a pathway to a big showcase. Does GA have a showcase platform yet? Competition is not their biggest issue. I think the issue is showcase. Where when on what fields. ECNL has that today set up for tomorrow. If you are u15 and below next year, ok take the risk on GA give them a year to figure it out. But if they do not build a showcase platform, it is a large regional league and ECNL still has the better platform.
I have friends who will play GA. I hope it works for them. They are now on the road less traveled. I also believe if you are good and have a good coach and the drive to play at the next level (it does not have to be D1) there is a place for you on a roster somewhere. @MSK357 sorry it was fun.
Surf Zombie
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Was on a long conference call today, and was curious about which states are over/under represented with number of ECNL teams based upon population. This is probably only interesting to me, but here is what I came up with:
State-Population-# teams
California-39.5- (19 teams)
Texas-29.0- (9 teams)
Florida-21.4-(6 teams)
New York- 19.4-(4 teams)
Pennsylvania-12.8-(4 teams)
Illinois-12.6-(3 teams)
Ohio-11.7-(3 teams)
Georgia-10.6- (5 teams)
North Carolina-10.4- (6 teams)
Michigan-10.0-(3 teams)
New Jersey-8.8-(4 teams)
Virginia-8.5-(5 teams)
Washington-7.6-(5 teams)
Arizona- 7.2-(2 teams)
Massachusetts-7.0-(3 teams)
Tennessee- 6.8-(2 teams)
Indiana- 6.7-(2 teams)
Missouri-6.1-(1 team)
Maryland- 6.0-(3 teams)
Wisconsin-5.8-(1 team)
Colorado-5.8-(4 teams)
Minnesota- 5.6-(1 team)
South Carolina-5.1-(2 teams)
Alabama- 4.9-(1 team)
Kentucky-4.4-(1 team)
Oregon-4.2-(2 teams)
Oklahoma-3.9-(2 teams)
Connecticut- 3.6-(2 teams)
Utah-3.2-(2 teams)
Nevada-3.1-(1 team)
Kansas-2.9-(1 team)
Nebraska-1.9-(1 team)
Idaho- 1.7-(1 team)
Looks like Illinois, Ohio & Michigan could add 1-2 each.
Arizona, Missouri, Wisconsin & Minnesota could probably add 1 each.
State-Population-# teams
California-39.5- (19 teams)
Texas-29.0- (9 teams)
Florida-21.4-(6 teams)
New York- 19.4-(4 teams)
Pennsylvania-12.8-(4 teams)
Illinois-12.6-(3 teams)
Ohio-11.7-(3 teams)
Georgia-10.6- (5 teams)
North Carolina-10.4- (6 teams)
Michigan-10.0-(3 teams)
New Jersey-8.8-(4 teams)
Virginia-8.5-(5 teams)
Washington-7.6-(5 teams)
Arizona- 7.2-(2 teams)
Massachusetts-7.0-(3 teams)
Tennessee- 6.8-(2 teams)
Indiana- 6.7-(2 teams)
Missouri-6.1-(1 team)
Maryland- 6.0-(3 teams)
Wisconsin-5.8-(1 team)
Colorado-5.8-(4 teams)
Minnesota- 5.6-(1 team)
South Carolina-5.1-(2 teams)
Alabama- 4.9-(1 team)
Kentucky-4.4-(1 team)
Oregon-4.2-(2 teams)
Oklahoma-3.9-(2 teams)
Connecticut- 3.6-(2 teams)
Utah-3.2-(2 teams)
Nevada-3.1-(1 team)
Kansas-2.9-(1 team)
Nebraska-1.9-(1 team)
Idaho- 1.7-(1 team)
Looks like Illinois, Ohio & Michigan could add 1-2 each.
Arizona, Missouri, Wisconsin & Minnesota could probably add 1 each.
SoccerFan4Life
PREMIER
Cal
California has too many. Remember that most countries have just a handful of academy teams and they still outplay us in World Cup and international games. Let's also remember that pay to play has created a barrier for some potential top players. We are not fixing this anytime soon in the USA
California has too many. Remember that most countries have just a handful of academy teams and they still outplay us in World Cup and international games. Let's also remember that pay to play has created a barrier for some potential top players. We are not fixing this anytime soon in the USA
Wow, I am impressed with your effort. You can see some areas that have too many teams and some areas that could add a couple.
vegasguy
GOLD
Hmmm.. can we normalize by surrounding population? I am just curious what we would find out about density of population. Please hold....
Going to fewer teams means fewer practice locations.
If you make practice locations too far apart, you lose kids just because mom and dad can't manage the drive. Not everyone is willing to reorganize all life around soccer.
Better to have more ECNL/ECRL level clubs for day to day practice, and build up a few regional all star teams where you get together less frequently.
Be careful speaking the truth about the poor prospects of Beach, Legends, etc... getting into ECNL any time soon. Some of the minions from those clubs will bite your head off. They certainly love attacking me when I attempt to enlighten them with reality.
Minions? You mean moms and dads.
The DOC fight isn't my fight. Probably not yours either. We should be happy for our kids to play teams from either side of it.
College coaches know where to look for talent.
SoccerGuru
SILVER ELITE
I have heard that argument before and if you are a good player and it means the college scout walking over a few fields at a showcase to watch, I believe they would do that. However, if you aren’t at the showcases and it will require a coach to make a special trip to your game or practice, it would have to be a really special player. I’m not saying it can’t happen or won’t happen, just saying it’s tougher that way. I hope all the girls make it to where they want to go and I do hope Beach and legends are successful, it’s better for Socal soccer. But it’s an uphill battle and really unfortunate but common sense says one path is easier and the other is a lot riskier. If drive time, cost, loyalty, etc come into play....that changes things a bit. But from a very outside the situation look, it’s very clear that those two clubs have a few tough years ahead.
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I hear a ton about Beach and Legends, but not a peep about the other former OC DA clubs making it into ECNL. Is there that big a gap that everyone expected B&L to get a shot at ECNL but not the other GA clubs?
Happy Saturday Everyone. I like to pop my head out every oso often and troll the forum. Wow, it's amazing to go back and read all this gossip and rumor mill. My one year anniversary of my forum return is coming up. I hope to celebrate with some of you soon. Let's get back to soccer ASAP!! Summer is coming and it's time to live life and take some risks. I'm ready and I have zero fear.
Little Weasel I am..............
Little Weasel I am..............
I thought that was a mushroom (parent) without a cap!
. Better get my glasses checked.