vegasguy
GOLD
I will tell you LV is staying in the SW. You may think you know but you do not know what you think you know. (Princess Bride)
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I will tell you LV is staying in the SW. You may think you know but you do not know what you think you know. (Princess Bride)
vegasguy
GOLD
and maybe I missed the answer... why is SoCal against team travel. Our 01/02 grads are getting highlighted on FB this week and the one common theme when asked what was their playing highlight... "I loved the team travel and team bonding".
You can miss a game parents. Kids are ok with it.
You can miss a game parents. Kids are ok with it.
MSK357
GOLD
nothing wrong with asking for less travel. Lavers said he wants less travel anyway. To be honest I don't think we even need to ask, it looks like its moving in that direction with new clubs being added weekly it seems like. agree to disagree. We'll just have to see what happens in.
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SoccerGuru
SILVER ELITE
Well results of how strong a club is should be seen with how well the U10 and below teams perform.
Players leave, some grow and some don't, some develop some don't, etc. As someone who has been through the younger ages I can tell you that the "superstar" at 7-9 years old very rarely lasts and continues to develop. When a coach usually sees a top player at those ages, they have them do things to help the team win that aren't best for their development. Plus when you have other parents, their parents and their coaches all telling this player how special and how good they are....sometimes the player may not work as hard and fall behind. To base how strong a club is off state cup which is for the youngers, I think is a bit misleading.
Top 3 clubs for SW ecnl next year is very clearly
Slammers - won or at least top 3 in conference at every age group
Blues - won a few national championships
SD surf - wins a lot and did very well in DA
In the end if you play for one of those 3 or once legends and beach get into ecnl, those 5....you will get plenty of opportunity for college exposure and to get chances to play in big games.
MSK357
GOLD
Traveling for showcases is fine. not for a league game when there's equal level or better competition near by. Its just not worth it. Plenty of other travel available that mean more.
No, the clubs in SoCal should just have their own league. There is absolutely no reason to travel outside of SoCal for soccer. It's ridiculous no matter what league it is for clubs in SoCal. Soccer should be as inclusive as possible. If other clubs want to travel to SoCal to play, that's fine. There are benefits and drawbacks to living in any area. We should take advantage of the benefits of a densely populated area.
vegasguy
GOLD
seems like @MSK357 is and @EOTL are. They are so against 2 trips that "they have to fly" to and that they can not miss. They never respond to why not just team travel to cut cost.
Isn't that the SCDL and CSL? Why do these clubs just not join those leagues? It is because the ECNL gives you an national platform as opposed to a regional platform. This seems to be an issue with your club not the ECNL.
How’s it going to work out for you in the fall? Everyone who’s going to die of COVID-19 will be dead by then, so let’s all get into sardine cans and go to Vegas? By the time this is over, I suspect
you will have a bunch of new local riff raff to play so you don’t have to travel, and neither does SoCal.
So now you’re misrepresenting that parents are opposed to two trips because you’ve run out of other stupid arguments. The reality is that SoCal people are only opposed to trips that make no sense. AZ and NV for league games aren’t the only trips that teams or families make, they’re just the two stupidest and least necessary ones. I’m perfectly happy going to AZ or NV for a real showcase. I might even be ok going to CO if it isn’t stupidly scheduled in April when it snows, it doesn’t require missing three days of school, and it isn’t any more expensive than any other location. I am huge proponent of doing things that make sense, and not doing things that don’t. It’s really a very simple philosophy.
Desert Hound
DA
I just chuckled and almost made a mess with my coffee.
Soccer should be as inclusive as possible....but we dont want LV and PHX in our league. So while arguing for inclusiveness you are at the same time wanting to kick out some ECNL teams in the division. Ok.
Can you name anyone who sends their younger teams out into the boondocks to help out smaller clubs? Heat certainly doesn’t. Their league is all Vegas.
If it is so important for central teams to travel to help out smaller clubs, then LV and PHX can show us how it is done. Will NV or AZ will be the first to drive out to Kingman for a league game? Conveniently located halfway between Vegas and Phoenix.
MSK357
GOLD
Bro, I don't care about travel if its worth it. Showcases are worth it. 1 team in vegas is not worth it, especially when we have equal if not better competition close by.
Desert Hound
DA
Well funny you should ask. In the local state league, teams do travel. Phoenix goes up to Prescott and Flagstaff, down to Tucson and over to Yuma. And visa versa.
vegasguy
GOLD
funny. truth is Newsom may not allow the games so you would have to come here and play anyway. Plus you all come to Vegas for Players Showcase and other events. You act as if travel is not necessary. Why do you fly everywhere.. enjoy the ride and drive or is that beneath you and your Socal mentality?
This post may be the most perfect example of clueless elitism ever written. “Inclusivity” means making an activity accessible for as many people as possible. “Inclusivity” does not mean making people incur unnecessary costs to subsidize mostly affluent AZ and NV folks’ participation in perhaps the most elitist youth sport in the U.S. that does not require owning a horse.
I think people will have a hard time finding a post from someone so lacking in self-awareness than this one, and that’s saying a lot at this website.
MSK357
GOLD
Flying for 1 game isn't worth it. A showcase where you can play a few games and it means something does. why is that so hard to understand?
vegasguy
GOLD
How far is you longest travel time in Socal for a ECNL league game. Is it Real Socal to SD? Not in miles but in your traffic how long is that drive time?
I do know one time it took us almost 2.5hrs to get from Del Mar to San Juan last year on a Saturday afternoon. I am fine with team travel too because if my player goes back east he will be prepared and understand that Mom and Dad are not there packing his bag, making him study and doing the things he needs to do himself. Will your player be ok without you on the sideline at every practice and game?
I am good watching the VEO of the match when I can not attend. Are you?
vegasguy
GOLD
Absolutely, flying is not worth it. Why do you have to fly. Why do you have to go at all?
MSK357
GOLD
We don't, which is why I think ECNL just picked up a few more socal teams. Teams that are very strong. I'm sure some Vegas and AZ teams will be picked up in the future. enjoy playing cali teams while it lasts lol.