Maybe they will collectively bargain a better deal for themselves next time. Until then, they will have to live up to the legal binding contract that the parties agreed to.
Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA
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SILVER ELITE
i agree. bad contract. i hope they negotiate and get the best deal they can.
I've been stuck with a bad contract but go through it and we did better the next time
Great, we can subsidize those kids with the $600 everyone saves when they no longer need to travel to NV and AZ for easy wins.
SoccerGuru
SILVER ELITE
I would just be concerned about what was actually said between ecnl and beach. If you are staying due to distance I completely get it but if it’s for ecnl the following year, I’m not sure if that’s the case. Let’s say for instance, ecnl told Beach no ecnl until 2022. Would beach really tell their parents so they defect or tell them we are going to work hard to find the best situation possible......and so on. They need the parents to pay money so they can keep running the club. If you stay for opportunity in ecnl, that seems very uncertain but if it’s because you don’t want to drive and are fine with whatever happens. I get it.
Would you stay if next year you find out they are not ecnl again?
Desert Hound
DA
How much do you spend on your trips to SD or from SD to LA? Many of those games are back to back Sat or Sun games. You are driving and getting hotels for some of those trips. That cost is being very optimistic $150. More realistic is $200 plus.
Why travel for those?
The difference to AZ is maybe $100 for a trip. So please stop bitching.
It is not like playing AZ and NV is $300 more vs going down to SD or driving up to LA. Those local trips that many times include hotel are at least $200.
So not a big difference. You make it seem like hey if we didn't do Az or NV we would save $300 per person while you overlook many of the local trips you make also include travel.
If you as a parent don't like travel the solution is simple. Join a local league. After all you keep telling us that there are plenty of great clubs not in ECNL that are nearby.
Desert Hound
DA
So maybe subsidize LA teams doing overnight trips in SD?
Or if from SD subsidize those teams for their overnights in LA.
You are already traveling and spending cash.
And you and many others argue why travel?
I agree...why do overnights in SD? After all you have all that great competition in LA. And if in SD, why do overnights in LA if you have all that good competition in SD?
Join a local league and all your problems are solved.
My DD’s wanted to stay because of their Coach.
No promises were made....Next year is next year.....
Well sure, if going to SD isn’t helpful for LA clubs, that makes sense. But the problem with your logic is you are heading to the logical extreme of why bother play games at all because it requires leaving the house.
Going to SD for league games makes sense, unlike AZ or NV. There are a lot of good teams in SD, and you need a lot of good teams in a league like ECNL draw players/customers and make the league a success. It also challenges players. There aren’t enough excellent clubs in just LA to do that. Plus, going to SD is never nearly as expensive or as time consuming as travel to AZ or NV.
Some travel is helpful. But travel to AZ or NV for one game is not.
You just used a lot of words to make the argument “Why pay $200 when you can pay $300?”
MSK357
GOLD
AZ and NV need southern California teams to be in a competitive league. Socal teams do not need AZ and NV to be in a competitive league. Fact. I'd rather save money and time and pick up a few more socal teams and move the other out of state teams somewhere else. Nothing lost in making a conference for just socal as far as competition. Softball kind of did this with PGF. They know most of the strong teams are in socal, so bring the competition us, not the other way around. Leverage.
Soccercritique
BRONZE
Going from SD to Arizone is a flight, motels, food, not just hop in the car and go. SD to LA is a day trip and get to sleep in your own bed. I'd say that it's A LOT cheaper playing in state than going to another. Socal has a lot of teams that are competitive...IF they wanted better competition, go north..the Bay Area and Norcal has some of the premier clubs/teams in the country.
Desert Hound
DA
I did to point out the cost is not much different. You claim $300 per trip to AZ implying trave to SD for overnight is different.
The cost is not much different.
Desert Hound
DA
Looking at the schedule there are more than a few sat and Sunday games that require a hotel for most. Not every game, but a couple of weekends here and there.
Sorry it was the championship playoffs, not showcases. My bad it has been a few years.
Yes, and if your the blues coach you go to teams with great players and collect them like trophies on a shelf, so ya they are always good with some great players. All the while screwing any team they want, dangling that carrot of a "National Championship" title they crave. After all, it's all about the win and many of them were already recruited before they dumped the coach and teams that helped them get recruited. But the win, the victory that's what is important.
Soccercritique
BRONZE
Good point. That's why US soccer is in the state that it's in...winning trumps development. And don't be fooled that just because you play for a top shelf club, they're getting the best training. I'd visit practice and see if they're focusing on development, do they scrimmage 1/2 the practice? games also are a true tale of the tape...if they're not trapping, making runs, kick ball, then yes, I'd have to say it's all about winning over development. College soccer is even more of a mess. Theres a handful of teams in the entire nation that develops and plays good soccer. Then there are others that win, but it's ugly to watch.
The interesting thing about stupidity is that when you are stupid you don't know it.
vegasguy
GOLD
Again, why are you all flying. It is not a hop but let the girls team travel. You do not need to go to AZ or NV to see the match do you? Let the player learn somethings on their trip... grow a little and see if they can survive without you all being at every practice and match. They will survive trust me.
Even at the last few tournaments here in Vegas that had Monday play my player drove himself, got ready himself, made it on time himself. He survived. Called and gave me the wrap out about the pk shootout after.
Next, you all already complain about watered down teams and easy games outside the ECNL and DA (prior) so how are NV and AZ watered down when some of the socal teams lose to our teams. Life in your bubble is only in your bubble. It is a flat perspective. So LA is willing to sit in the 405 traffic for 3hrs for a watered down game but not drive 3hrs for a more competitive game?
“They will survive” is an even worse reason to go to AZ or NV than “why pay $200 when you can pay $300”. If playing high level soccer is so important to you, move to where it is played.
It’s really flattering that everyone wants to make Socal teams go to them. Anyone from Texas or Hawaii want to make their case why they’re a better option than NorCal, NV or AZ?