Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

What’s wrong with making the regions smaller? There are already 8 or 9 ECNL teams in Mountain states. (CO, UT, NV, AZ, ID). Why not have the Mountain teams play each other while the coast teams play each other? Socal plays socal, norcal plays norcal, pac NW plays pac NW, mountain plays mountain.

I understand that everyone would like Blues and Slammers to come visit. But, much as I would like them to make the trip to play my daughter's team, it is not a reasonable request.
 
Desert Hound said:
I did to point out the cost is not much different. You claim $300 per trip to AZ implying trave to SD for overnight is different.

The cost is not much different.
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I have a great idea. If the cost to travel to AZ isn’t that much, and if it’s so important to you to have real teams come to you, why don’t you just pay for our travel costs? Problem solved!
 
Everyone realizes that when play resumes in 20-21 for ECNL , GAL, etc. the So Cal teams are going to NV and AZ and those teams are coming to So Cal. Everybody gets that right? You all will also go to the showcases too. Everybody is going to part with their $$$ or they won't participate.

Good players all over, and my kid plays in So Cal...and yes, I believe there is a bit of arrogance IMHO in some pockets...one of the best strikers I have seen at my DD's age group plays for SCDS in AZ...good/great players are not limited to So Cal.

An awful lot of complaining for something everybody is going to willingly do anyway. Nobody's arms are being twisted.
 
In the end it is not cheap to travel. My daughters team is going play in both ECRL and GA. That means we need to travel to AZ three times and Vegas three times. Even $300 each, it is going to be around $2000. The youth soccer is way too expensive. Mostly likely I have to skip some of the trips.
 
Woobie06 said:
Everyone realizes that when play resumes in 20-21 for ECNL , GAL, etc. the So Cal teams are going to NV and AZ and those teams are coming to So Cal. Everybody gets that right? You all will also go to the showcases too. Everybody is going to part with their $$$ or they won't participate.

Good players all over, and my kid plays in So Cal...and yes, I believe there is a bit of arrogance IMHO in some pockets...one of the best strikers I have seen at my DD's age group plays for SCDS in AZ...good/great players are not limited to So Cal.

An awful lot of complaining for something everybody is going to willingly do anyway. Nobody's arms are being twisted.
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First, I bet you are wrong. I bet ECNL will not schedule games that require overnight trips or flights until 2021 at the earliest. It will re-evaluate where things stand for 2021 in Oct-Nov.

Second, I’m not concerned about the short term problem of wasting time and money going to AZ and NV for league game because, yes, we’ll probably get back to that stupidity for a while after covid. Just like with GDA, it took three years to prove me right. ECNL will eventually add some worse clubs in those regions so they travel less. In the long term, though, Vegas and Phoenix will eventually become their own region because: (1) they obviously don’t mind the travel and it’s no farther than going to SoCal anyway; and (2) it saves SoCal clubs a ton of time and money without negatively impacting the quality of play for them. Shoot, it even saves ya’ll money because, as one of you said, SD is soooo expensive.
 
EOTL said:
First, I bet you are wrong. I bet ECNL will not schedule games that require overnight trips or flights until 2021 at the earliest. It will re-evaluate where things stand for 2021 in Oct-Nov.

Second, I’m not concerned about the short term problem of wasting time and money going to AZ and NV for league game because, yes, we’ll probably get back to that stupidity for a while after covid. Just like with GDA, it took three years to prove me right. ECNL will eventually add some worse clubs in those regions so they travel less. In the long term, though, Vegas and Phoenix will eventually become their own region because: (1) they obviously don’t mind the travel and it’s no farther than going to SoCal anyway; and (2) it saves SoCal clubs a ton of time and money without negatively impacting the quality of play for them. Shoot, it even saves ya’ll money because, as one of you said, SD is soooo expensive.
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Ok...let’s play that out. If ECNL puts together a schedule that requires no travel or overnights than the Vegas Teams will scrimmage within their club or local, the AZ teams will get tired playing themselves week after week, and many of the So Cal Teams won’t play each other. As many have suggested, if you have Eagles, RSC, and Breakers going down for a weekend to play two games in SD, say Rebels and Sharks, or those teams come up, you really think they are gonna do all that time in the car, back and forth over two days or get a room? Good luck with that.
 
dad4 said:
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); What’s wrong with making the regions smaller? There are already 8 or 9 ECNL teams in Mountain states. (CO, UT, NV, AZ, ID). Why not have the Mountain teams play each other while the coast teams play each othe
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Dumb idea. Denver is 900 miles from Phoenix. It is with stops for gas, lunch 15 hours driving.

Salt Lake is 700 miles away and 10-12 hours away.
 
Woobie06 said:
Everyone realizes that when play resumes in 20-21 for ECNL , GAL, etc. the So Cal teams are going to NV and AZ and those teams are coming to So Cal. Everybody gets that right? You all will also go to the showcases too. Everybody is going to part with their $$$ or they won't participate.

Good players all over, and my kid plays in So Cal...and yes, I believe there is a bit of arrogance IMHO in some pockets...one of the best strikers I have seen at my DD's age group plays for SCDS in AZ...good/great players are not limited to So Cal.

An awful lot of complaining for something everybody is going to willingly do anyway. Nobody's arms are being twisted.
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Really? Lavers has already publicly stated that ECNL needs to reduce travel. A mountain conference does just that.

The real complaint is that the mid level clubs in AZ and NV don’t want to play the mid level clubs from CO, UT and ID. They want to play Slammers, Blues, and Surf.

Guess what? So does everyone else. Get over it. Stop asking other people to pay extra on travel so you can upgrade your opponents.

I’m not even socal. I’m norcal. But I don’t expect socal parents pay thousand of dollars on travel for my benefit.
 
Desert Hound said:
Dumb idea. Denver is 900 miles from Phoenix. It is with stops for gas, lunch 15 hours driving.

Salt Lake is 700 miles away and 10-12 hours away.
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So going places you don’t want is suddenly too far and too expensive for you now? Dude it’s barely more expensive and time consuming to fly there than to SoCal. I don’t see a problem. You can afford it.
 
dad4 said:
Really? Lavers has already publicly stated that ECNL needs to reduce travel. A mountain conference does just that.

The real complaint is that the mid level clubs in AZ and NV don’t want to play the mid level clubs from CO, UT and ID. They want to play Slammers, Blues, and Surf.

Guess what? So does everyone else. Get over it. Stop asking other people to pay extra on travel so you can upgrade your opponents.

I’m not even socal. I’m norcal. But I don’t expect socal parents pay thousand of dollars on travel for my benefit.
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I’m not asking anybody to do anything. Last time I checked, I don’t run the league, schedule conference play, or showcases.

There is nothing for me to get over...I am very clear on what is required if my family chooses to participate. You seem to think your wishes, but’s, candies, and nuts have any bearing on how things shake out. They don’t. You don’t have a say and neither do I. The only two choices you have are (1) Participate or (2) Don’t. Those are the only choices you have today. Hopefully that changes.
 
eric said:
In the end it is not cheap to travel. My daughters team is going play in both ECRL and GA. That means we need to travel to AZ three times and Vegas three times. Even $300 each, it is going to be around $2000. The youth soccer is way too expensive. Mostly likely I have to skip some of the trips.
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Playing ecrl and gal? How’s that work if they have games on the same day?
 
dad4 said:
Really? Lavers has already publicly stated that ECNL needs to reduce travel. A mountain conference does just that.

The real complaint is that the mid level clubs in AZ and NV don’t want to play the mid level clubs from CO, UT and ID. They want to play Slammers, Blues, and Surf.

Guess what? So does everyone else. Get over it. Stop asking other people to pay extra on travel so you can upgrade your opponents.

I’m not even socal. I’m norcal. But I don’t expect socal parents pay thousand of dollars on travel for my benefit.
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I thought you said your kids plays in NorCal NPL, and doesn't even play in ECNL or GA. Why are you so concerned about how ECNL does things, and especially how other parents choose to spend their money on their own kids? Does this somehow affect you?
 
wc_baller said:
I thought you said your kids plays in NorCal NPL, and doesn't even play in ECNL or GA. Why are you so concerned about how ECNL does things, and especially how other parents choose to spend their money on their own kids? Does this somehow affect you?
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I never really said beyond she doesn‘t play DA or GA. Reading EJ and Luis Andes made me decide to limit the amount I post about my own kid.

It doesnt really affect me until she is older. Just talk on my part.
 
wc_baller said:
I thought you said your kids plays in NorCal NPL, and doesn't even play in ECNL or GA. Why are you so concerned about how ECNL does things, and especially how other parents choose to spend their money on their own kids? Does this somehow affect you?
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I have a question. If it’s not ok for him to question how other people spend their money, why is it ok for @Desert Hound and @vegasguy to tell me how I need to spend mine?
 
How many clubs in ECNL for 2020-2021 season, 110 or so and counting?

Question I’d like to have answered is how many teams are in ECNL 15 months from now (2021-2022). 120? 130?
 
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