Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

htk said:
This is a completely ridiculous and narrow minded comment that does not take into account things like the quality of coaching, development, college and YNT placements (as just some examples) at these clubs. WE GET IT...you’ve made it abundantly clear through all your posts that you have a personal issue with Beach and Legends. Your opinions become more and more meaningless with each post. Are you upset that there isn’t the “great migration“ from these clubs to slammers and blues as so many predicted? Would you rather play Beach and Legends...or potentially have players bumped from current ecnl teams if players migrated?
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Let’s not forget “the end is near”......
 
Surf Zombie said:
The ECNL has 111 teams going into next year. If you look at the various regions, travel seems best to worst:

1. South West
2. Mid Atlantic
3. North East
4. Texas
5. South East
6. Ohio Valley
7. Northwest
8. Midwest

If reducing travel is a priority for ECNL, IMO, it’ll be a combination of adding more clubs and making smaller regions.

For example, in the North East there are 18 teams stretching from MA to MD. Does the region eventually go to 20 clubs and get split into two separate regions of 10 (MA, CT, NY) & 10 (NJ, PA, MD)?
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I took a longer look at the league map while I was on a really exciting conference call.

There are 111 teams in 8 conferences for next year. I’m sure the ECNL is concerned about dilution as much as they are about post Covid 19 travel issues.

I think the ECNL could go to 126 clubs in 12 conferences. In doing so they could substantially reduce travel, pick up some strong clubs who are on the outside (Beach, Legends, Top Hat, FC Virginia, NEFC, Lonestar, Sporting BV, Oakwood, Nationals, Weston, etc) and effectively kill the GAL all at the same time.

If the conferences ranged in size from 8-18 teams and were even numbered it could work schedule wise. Have cross over games for the smaller conferences a couple times per year with clubs of similar strength. If Real Colorado is going to TX, it should be to play Solar & FC Dallas. Likewise, when weaker teams travel, pair them against teams of similar strength to get better games for all involved.

Just my opinion but this is where I think we’ll be in the not too distant future.
 
htk said:
This is a completely ridiculous and narrow minded comment that does not take into account things like the quality of coaching, development, college and YNT placements (as just some examples) at these clubs. WE GET IT...you’ve made it abundantly clear through all your posts that you have a personal issue with Beach and Legends. Your opinions become more and more meaningless with each post. Are you upset that there isn’t the “great migration“ from these clubs to slammers and blues as so many predicted? Would you rather play Beach and Legends...or potentially have players bumped from current ecnl teams if players migrated?
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I never said Beach and Legends do not deserve it. They most certainly do.
 
htk said:
This is a completely ridiculous and narrow minded comment that does not take into account things like the quality of coaching, development, college and YNT placements (as just some examples) at these clubs. WE GET IT...you’ve made it abundantly clear through all your posts that you have a personal issue with Beach and Legends. Your opinions become more and more meaningless with each post. Are you upset that there isn’t the “great migration“ from these clubs to slammers and blues as so many predicted? Would you rather play Beach and Legends...or potentially have players bumped from current ecnl teams if players migrated?
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Kicker4Life said:
Let’s not forget “the end is near”......
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You two are just picking on her because you guys are racists. [ sarcasm]
Lady get off your high horse.
 
Yellowcard said:
AZ is TOO important for the ECNL Showcases. The AZ clubs do an awesome job of helping put that together. If you think Lavers would risk that to satisfy some “unicorn” parents from SoCal that complain they have to travel twice a year. Give me a break!!!!
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The complaints from the panzy asses on here about travel, aren’t a representation of the majority of us in SoCal. They’re not worth the argument. So, don’t even entertain them.
 
Fact said:
Weak comebacks. Afraid that you now realize that if Beach kiddos defect, you may not have a place at the table? The lost of quality competition and need to travel more due to the lose of Beach and Legends is sad for girls soccer in Socal.
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Beach and Legends are not dead as you suggest above. They are just not participating in the highest level of youth soccer. They have many great players and coaches. The question is for how long?
 
Fact said:
You two are just picking on her because you guys are racists. [ sarcasm]
Lady get off your high horse.
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Your identity politics are pathetic.

We are having a serious conversation here about how big the gap is and how big it will become between Slammers, Blues and everyone else.
 
shales1002 said:
First I’m mad. Next I’m scared. :rolleyes: Why can’t I just be a person on the forum who disagrees with you? Perhaps you just don’t understand the concept of regionalized travel. I honestly hope that Beach and Legends get in. But if they do, it won’t be at the expensive of out of state clubs to appease parents who don’t want to leave town twice per season.
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I really don't mind the travel to be honest, its an excuse to go to vegas. Arizona i don't really care for though. I don't care if you disagree with me, thats what a forum discussion is for. I just forsee AZ and NV being in a different region in the future if not near future based on the fact more socal teams got picked up. I am looking forward to less travel, more local teams, and staying in socal. Nothing wrong with that. We'll see if that happens. Agree to disagree.
 
LB Mom 78 said:
Your identity politics are pathetic.

We are having a serious conversation here about how big the gap is and how big it will become between Slammers, Blues and everyone else.
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Looking at state cup results for the last full season, I have to give the nod to Legends, with Blues as a runner up on the strength of the Rennie teams.

What were you saying about Slammers being dominant?
 
Kicknit22 said:
The complaints from the panzy asses on here about travel, aren’t a representation of the majority of us in SoCal. They’re not worth the argument. So, don’t even entertain them.
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If every family who thinks that the travel expenses associated with top-level competition is not a financial burden would take along as a guest on their trips to distant league games, showcases, tournaments, etc a player from a family who cannot afford to go, we would go a long way toward solving what is the biggest problem with youth soccer in America.
 
espola said:
If every family who thinks that the travel expenses associated with top-level competition is not a financial burden would take along as a guest on their trips to distant league games, showcases, tournaments, etc a player from a family who cannot afford to go, we would go a long way toward solving what is the biggest problem with youth soccer in America.
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Was that chapter 4 of the communist manifesto? The section about club soccer?
j/k. Every team my kids have been on have fundraisers, both externally and internally, for the families that cannot afford certain events.
If nike and addidas were not busy destroying college basketball, maybe they would start some fully funded clubs in less fortunate areas.
 
pokergod said:
Was that chapter 4 of the communist manifesto? The section about club soccer?
j/k. Every team my kids have been on have fundraisers, both externally and internally, for the families that cannot afford certain events.
If nike and addidas were not busy destroying college basketball, maybe they would start some fully funded clubs in less fortunate areas.
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I think there is some of that on every team but not enough to tap the full potential.
 
LB Mom 78 said:
Your identity politics are pathetic.

We are having a serious conversation here about how big the gap is and how big it will become between Slammers, Blues and everyone else.
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Again, get off your high horse. The others are discussing soccer. You are trying to belittle their clubs for not getting in ECNL.
 
dad4 said:
These are not mutually exclusive. Helping fund scholarship players is a good idea. Reducing the unnecessary parts of the cost structure is also a good idea.
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I was on the BOD of a small community soccer club when DA came along. I had a discussion with the DOC about the possible impact on our club's teams. We were concerned that they would sap away all our best players, which would mean that we wouldn't win as many games as before, which would mean losing players from the next tier of ability whose parents wanted their kids to be associated with winning teams - the whole chain reaction might lead to collapse. However, when we learned that the San Diego County DA clubs were not going to be fully funded by some magic sugar daddy in the sky and thus the costs of playing in DA would be considerably higher than the existing clubs (or even for players on their other teams) we stopped worrying.
 
MSK357 said:
I think Parents paid to be in a competitive league, not necessarily to play Vegas and Arizona. We're just saying we can be just as competitive without Vegas and Arizona. If enough parents complain and ask, I'm sure we can make that happen. Especially since with more socal teams being added, it seems like that will be the natural progression we are moving towards. I'm looking forward to it.
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You think the parents can change the ecnl conference because you are socal parents?
 
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