Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

dad4 said:
But it is important.

There are things ECNL could do so it happens to fewer kids.

And you aren’t doing them. You are here gloating about GDA.
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If you believe ECNL is doing something wrong as it relates to safety, by all means propose solutions and support it with professional studies. I’ve been doing that for years, whether it’s studies about the pill or the dangers of so many teenage girls being required to play full 90 minute games without substitution.

Yes. I am gloating about GDA’s demise. It was a terrible platform from the start and only got worse from there. I will miss GDA mafiosos arguing over whether it snows in CO in April, only to have them staring in disbelief while standing in a foot of it after wasting $1000 just to get there; who claim that GDA is “winning” based on its policy of banning HS soccer, and within weeks of 14 clubs just abandoned GDA because of it. The knee injury issue is of course somewhat tragic and uncomfortable to discuss given what happened to the biggest GDA mafioso and science-denier’s daughter and I would prefer to let the guy move on, but you keep bringing it up.
 
GeekKid said:
It's right on the ECNL site. Click on the menu option "Member Clubs" and the map option is the third choice down.
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Ok. WOW. Well looks like they are closing in on locking down teams. How in the world does the NW Conference have 19 teams! That's crazy. And there could be one more given its an odd number.
 
Wallfly04 said:
Ok. WOW. Well looks like they are closing in on locking down teams. How in the world does the NW Conference have 19 teams! That's crazy. And there could be one more given its an odd number.
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Looks like they moved the Colorado teams back. I believe it was at 16 which was split into 2 divisions.

The map being updated tells me things are final or very close to final. From what I remember when previous teams got in over the years, they never updated right away. It was usually only once the following year teams were set.
 
soccer4us said:
Looks like they moved the Colorado teams back. I believe it was at 16 which was split into 2 divisions.

The map being updated tells me things are final or very close to final. From what I remember when previous teams got in over the years, they never updated right away. It was usually only once the following year teams were set.
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I’m thinking the opposite. The map has *As of April 20th” written on it. To me that says more changes coming. Guess we’ll find out.
 
Mile High Dad said:
Oops, we as in Real Co
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Mile High helps me know where your from and I know 100% you're a father. Today, we have former Doc pissed off at me, a current Doc is mad at me for hurting biz and hates me. I know of another Doc that comes here and has zero kids and attacks the parents because he can;t stand parents like us. One of the biggest verbal abusers ever is on here too. One coach on here always uses "D Bag" as his way of putting parents down like me. He would use that term to me all the time describing me and you. It's called being "Two Faced." These types are very dangerous to little girls and their parents. They say one thing ((lie)) and do the opposite. I can;t be the only that has gone through two faced Doc? So, I came here back in July to speak to certain individuals who I already knew played here and lurked. These guys told me how lame all the parents are and they knew the sales pitch to "hook" us all. I'm sorry for the cross fire. It was not meant for you. Many Docs on here get a pulse of the customer base. "I know every D1 coach and because you opened your mouth and challenge my life style and the system, your dd will never be picked up by a good school." "I talk to the coaches all the time and they always ask me about how the parents are." "Shut up or else!"

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In our experiences, the DOC's and coaches really like the parents that are sheep or mushrooms. Herd them where they want them or feed them the BS that they think they want to hear and then have you go away into your corner. Once you speak up for your goat or heaven forbid pose a decent question to them, instant target. When you step back, take a moment to collect yourself, it hits you like a ton of bricks. This is kid's soccer, no more no less.
 
Mile High Dad said:
In our experiences, the DOC's and coaches really like the parents that are sheep or mushrooms. Herd them where they want them or feed them the BS that they think they want to hear and then have you go away into your corner. Once you speak up for your goat or heaven forbid pose a decent question to them, instant target. When you step back, take a moment to collect yourself, it hits you like a ton of bricks. This is kid's soccer, no more no less.
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and sadly, the sheep and mushroom parent can be ((not all)) 100% two-faced just like the Doc. Some sheep dads actually come here to speak on behalf of the Doc. Keep and eye on things here and report back to HQs. The things they say behind peoples back and how they write their BS and make it sound like something that it's not is fascinating to me. I see the mushroom, but they don;t because the Doc says with proper training 4 days a week and $15K a year he can make the Mushroom blossom into a Unicorn :)
 
So now the entire youth soccer world revolves around one family, spies are lurking in every corner, and people have turned to mushrooms.

C’mon man, you gotta admit it’s sounding a little far fetched.
 
Giesbock said:
So now the entire youth soccer world revolves around one family, spies are lurking in every corner, and people have turned to mushrooms.

C’mon man, you gotta admit it’s sounding a little far fetched.
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I also told you we needed a pause button and a complete overhaul for soccer. I also said the GDA will be gone and done with. Far fetched? You can;t treat girls like this bro. Listen, I have goat friend whose dd is in tears because of all this. Her coach is out because a ((bigger)) coach is coming to take the old coach's place. Old coach is going to a smaller club now ((he's super stoked btw)) but no college access. According to a few on here, the goat should follow the coach they had for 4 years in a row and give up the top league so she can stay with coach Frans. What should one do? This goat will score 10 goals a game if she wants too if she goes with Frans. The new coach is not a good fit ((yells and screams at little girls)) but it's the top team and he knows everyone in the industry. Lobbying is an art form and I'm horrible and that game.
 
Hey @Ellejustus- I didn’t start again. This season would have been my daughter’s third. She played AYSO for several years, went to a training group for two years to learn ball skills, played a season of Discovery league, then DPL last year and at the end of last season, started guest playing with her club’s DA team.

I remember back when she was maybe 9 or 10 she’d get the ball and run the field and score. Opposing keeper’s dad standing next to me would say “s**t, #4 has the ball again. He didn’t know who I was and I definitely didn’t cheer her after the first 3 goals. After 4, she started passing and wouldn’t cross the midline. Mind you, that was rec soccer on some tattered back lot school field, not a national. Champions tournament!!

And so a few months ago, I joined this forum to learn the lay of the land, put an ear on the pulse of the club scene, learn some new abbreviations and and along the way maybe get to know some virtual friends with similar interests.

just a normal dude with a daughter I care about.
Really fascinated to see how clubs handle the new landscape and what I perceive will be sort of an open season of poaching players- which under normal circumstances, they might not do...



There you have it.
 
Mile High Dad said:
We were told when we moved back that our top 2 teams would play. That would make 20 total
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With corona, I don’t think many of us want it this big geographically. Who wants to fly SF to Denver for a game?

I really wish they would add a few teams and split it 3 ways. Norcal, pacific NW, and Mountain. Top few teams in each area can fly to play each other. The rest aren’t strong enough to bother.
 
Or even group CO with Az, Nv, Ut and Id. It would be like how the Far West Regional was a few years ago. And then the top performers could do a Regional with Nw, Norcal and Socal
 
Giesbock said:
Hey @Ellejustus- I didn’t start again. This season would have been my daughter’s third. She played AYSO for several years, went to a training group for two years to learn ball skills, played a season of Discovery league, then DPL last year and at the end of last season, started guest playing with her club’s DA team.

I remember back when she was maybe 9 or 10 she’d get the ball and run the field and score. Opposing keeper’s dad standing next to me would say “s**t, #4 has the ball again. He didn’t know who I was and I definitely didn’t cheer her after the first 3 goals. After 4, she started passing and wouldn’t cross the midline. Mind you, that was rec soccer on some tattered back lot school field, not a national. Champions tournament!!

And so a few months ago, I joined this forum to learn the lay of the land, put an ear on the pulse of the club scene, learn some new abbreviations and and along the way maybe get to know some virtual friends with similar interests.

just a normal dude with a daughter I care about.
Really fascinated to see how clubs handle the new landscape and what I perceive will be sort of an open season of poaching players- which under normal circumstances, they might not do...



There you have it.
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Just to be clear to bro, right now I am a sheep parent but not a mushroom one. I have to earn goat parent because we have been practically out of club soccer ((not hs thank God)) for two years now. My dd is my goat but in all reality she's a sheep and I'm her Shepard. That will be the truth all truths from me brah :) Soon this will all be better. Sorry again for running my mouth and ranting on here. It got nasty from me and I let my thoughts fly to hard on here. I'm sorry again.
 
dad4 said:
But it is important.

There are things ECNL could do so it happens to fewer kids.

And you aren’t doing them. You are here gloating about GDA.
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For those who weren’t around three years ago, I think it’s time to start from the beginning, when I first posted four things that can reduce the risk of ACL injury and made Simi a crazy man. They were:

1. Strength/fitness training. Simi didn’t go nuts over this one. Can we agree to move on?

2. Don’t let your child play soccer if you have a history of ACL injury. Simi went apes**t over this, although genetic predisposition (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435909/) combined with playing the sport with the highest risk of ACL injury (
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3867093/) is playing with fire.

3. Don’t play GDA. Forcing 14 teenage girls every game to play a full 90 minutes in the highest risk sport is dangerous and unnecessary. This has generated the most hate, including from you, but is hardly controversial. In game fatigue is very much a factor (https://fitforfutbol.com/2016/02/th...y-and-sleep-on-performance-injury-likelihood/) and not just with ACLs, but pretty much any injury. Shoot, studies show even the risk of concussion in sport is higher when fatigued (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18373290/) although running hard doesn’t make your brain bouncier inside your skull. The sub rules weren’t the only ones that made GDA unsafe, but let’s move on for the sake of time.

4. Put your daughter on the pill. Simi lost his freakin’ mind at this point, presumably due to a hard-wired subconscious religious fear that his daughter might have premarital sex or something. His neurosis aside, this one is almost certainly the most effective way to reduce risk of ACL injury. (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...Pill-prevent-career-ending-knee-injuries.html). FYI, I cited a news article rather than the study itself, but only because the title almost seems like an FU to science deniers like yourself.

Finally, in response to your question about how many Blues players have torn their ACLs, the answer is that I don’t care, because anecdotal “evidence” is not evidence. Because that number doesn’t answer when or how they happened, and therefore doesn’t answer anything. It doesn’t compare to other clubs. It doesn’t put it in context with the number of kids in the club. It is only your way of deflecting the actual scientific facts that you don’t want to hear. But fine, keep up your schtick. I’m obviously ok rolling around in the muck with all you anti-vaxxer, climate change-denying bottom feeders, especially now that it’s a moot point and all you GDA sycophants lost.
 
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