Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

To all my dear, dear friends in Soccer the last 10 years, this is pathetic behavior. We now know who had the keys to the Kingdom. The keys are flying around in the universe now and we shall see where they land. In the meantime, please enjoy a song that has become so dear to my heart. Its about a love affair I had with soccer from 2010-2017. 2017 was horrible :( Way to ruin soccer you guys. Thanks a lot. Thanks for all the division you guys caused. I hope to God things can work itself out for everyone. I tried yesterday to be nice to all and work something out. I have never spiked the football, although I was 100% right about the GDA League. Why would a father gloat about what we all have gone though? A bad coach would only find this funny and mock most of us
 
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Did you see the haul Legends caught in 2017? Where were those players before that year?

Yes, I saw that haul. My girls weren't part of that transition to Legends, but several players we knew were. Quite a few of those players were from Arsenal, as the only thing keeping those players at Arsenal was the ECNL patch and once Legends got DA that was the catalyst for most, not all, to jump ship. Legends also saw a few players who lived local and were traveling to OC for ECNL come back closer to home.


Different environment saved my dd school life because of people just like you and Kicker in soccer dont think you can;t be successful without a college degree.
I have never once said one cannot have success without a college degree, I'm somewhat proof of that, parents were immigrants and never completed High School, so I was implored by my parents to finish HS to be successful and then start a career with stability. That's all they knew and for the most part was all I was ever shared with as a viable route in the circles I grew up in, so I didn't go the college route. I've now have 25+ years in the engineering field and manage at a local utility. I'd like my DDs to have success both in life experiences and have some book smarts to go along with it. I hope they choose a route that leads them to college, but that will ultimately be on them, I can only give them perspective and my own experiences so that they make their own path in life.


How did they get there Tech and would they have gone there without access to the LIST? A simple yes or no on this question is all I need? The year before 2017 Legends lost players to Blues and others just like they did every year.
Yes, they would have had access to the list. With the spotlight / platform the #s increase, without it they decrease. But a simple yes is my answer.


We had some cool phone calls too but those I see where in passing. I can see when my dd went to Blues why I was never invited to all the poker parties and fun events because we were chasing championships. It all makes since now and we were just in passing. Nice!!!
Trying to give you some context here, we're not "best friends" and that's okay. You're someone I thought was a nice guy and had some nice chats on the sidelines. That doesn't factor into your value as human being, so don't take us having been "casual" friends as a slight. I was in contact with some Goats FC parents more so than others just out common likes / interests, doesn't make anyone better than anyone else.


I see the two of you are very close and I'm sorry for challenging your friend to questions I;ve had.
@Kicker4Life and I are friendly with each other and both have 04 and 06 DDs and have been in contact throughout the years for several reasons that have us in the same soccer circles. He's been a good go to source for experience and has given me some good perspective that has helped with the paths my DDs are on. Our families have gotten along well across the board and he is someone I can rely on for good advice. I have no major issues with you challenging him, but I have observed that you have been passive aggressive with him regarding certain comparisons / accolades. That has been the main thing that has given me the cringe factor in your exchanges.


Woof woof woof bow wow. I guess I was a puppy to everyone trying to make friends because I didn;t have any because I couldn't talk to make friends when I was young, so I just talked to God in my mind all the time. Oh well, lonely life on the planet now days. No friends, kickers life is so much better than my life plus now his social is even better. Plus he has friend like you Tech in a time of need and that's what friends are for. I have no friends on FB now or on this planet right now. I'm doing a reboot and will see where my new friends come from.
No need to play the victim, you're not a bad guy. It just seems like your message is clouded with a lot of substance that takes away from any sincerity you had credit for in the beginning. My advice, just do you. If this is the real you, so be it, continue to do that and if you don't have friends, than you're probably better off as friends are overrated. And on the plus side you can say you're practicing "friend social distancing" with extreme success.
 
Yes, I saw that haul. My girls weren't part of that transition to Legends, but several players we knew were. Quite a few of those players were from Arsenal, as the only thing keeping those players at Arsenal was the ECNL patch and once Legends got DA that was the catalyst for most, not all, to jump ship. Legends also saw a few players who lived local and were traveling to OC for ECNL come back closer to home.



I have never once said one cannot have success without a college degree, I'm somewhat proof of that, parents were immigrants and never completed High School, so I was implored by my parents to finish HS to be successful and then start a career with stability. That's all they knew and for the most part was all I was ever shared with as a viable route in the circles I grew up in, so I didn't go the college route. I've now have 25+ years in the engineering field and manage at a local utility. I'd like my DDs to have success both in life experiences and have some book smarts to go along with it. I hope they choose a route that leads them to college, but that will ultimately be on them, I can only give them perspective and my own experiences so that they make their own path in life.



Yes, they would have had access to the list. With the spotlight / platform the #s increase, without it they decrease. But a simple yes is my answer.



Trying to give you some context here, we're not "best friends" and that's okay. You're someone I thought was a nice guy and had some nice chats on the sidelines. That doesn't factor into your value as human being, so don't take us having been "casual" friends as a slight. I was in contact with some Goats FC parents more so than others just out common likes / interests, doesn't make anyone better than anyone else.



@Kicker4Life and I are friendly with each other and both have 04 and 06 DDs and have been in contact throughout the years for several reasons that have us in the same soccer circles. He's been a good go to source for experience and has given me some good perspective that has helped with the paths my DDs are on. Our families have gotten along well across the board and he is someone I can rely on for good advice. I have no major issues with you challenging him, but I have observed that you have been passive aggressive with him regarding certain comparisons / accolades. That has been the main thing that has given me the cringe factor in your exchanges.



No need to play the victim, you're not a bad guy. It just seems like your message is clouded with a lot of substance that takes away from any sincerity you had credit for in the beginning. My advice, just do you. If this is the real you, so be it, continue to do that and if you don't have friends, than you're probably better off as friends are overrated. And on the plus side you can say you're practicing "friend social distancing" with extreme success.
Thanks for clarifying. Peace and everything I PM has come true too. Just wait Tech, more news will keep dropping. Dirty games played with my dd but oh well.
 
Well you blocked me but I'm just me. It's way to hard for me to play two or three persons. I do know some folks on here from before played games like that. Now, were in way more serious stuff. Lot's facing us all at this strange time we find ourselves.
 
Anyone want to make sense of this?

As a part of this new club-based league structure, the USYS Conferences can now include a competition platform for all former U.S. Soccer Development Academy (DA) clubs.

Just what we need, another league lol.

I read it as clubs in National League have the option to create a league within their region. I'm guessing those names/emails below are in charge of certain regions. Not very clue though and no plan truly In place since they can't guarantee who will be involved I'd guess.
 
Anyone want to make sense of this?

As a part of this new club-based league structure, the USYS Conferences can now include a competition platform for all former U.S. Soccer Development Academy (DA) clubs.

It seems it would solve the following.
-da clubs can offer national league for their teams
- da teams/club remain "elite"
-da clubs still play other da teams
-the state cup and that current path to regional and national is still available to the other clubs
- you have a consolidated structure
- and a national championship in this format is more prestigious vs just a da national championship since now you are including many other teams into the finals
 
103 Girls ECNL Clubs across the US.......I can not see that total surpassing 110.....so over the next 18 months I would predict 7 clubs total being added nationally.....next year there is two big clubs in So Cali I see getting it.......then out of state there is a few big ones for the other remaining spots.......I wonder if a couple more will get added from out of state over the coming weeks....
 
I wish there was a way to limit a person to only having one account on this forum. Right now I think there are one or two people here each with several accounts basically supporting their own opinions. That way when I block someone I know that I am completely blocking them.
@Dominic has interceded before in situations where aliases got out of control by reviewing some of the technical aspects on the back end of things. I'd strongly advise @Ellejustus and anyone else to report anything inappropriate to @Dominic, especially anything that is received via DM / PM so that it's addressed accordingly. There's no room for that kind of nonsense on here. Differing opinions and takes are one thing but certain lines shouldn't be crossed.
 
To all my dear, dear friends in Soccer the last 10 years, this is pathetic behavior. We now know who had the keys to the Kingdom. The keys are flying around in the universe now and we shall see where they land. In the meantime, please enjoy a song that has become so dear to my heart. Its about a love affair I had with soccer from 2010-2017. 2017 was horrible :( Way to ruin soccer you guys. Thanks a lot. Thanks for all the division you guys caused. I hope to God things can work itself out for everyone. I tried yesterday to be nice to all and work something out. I have never spiked the football, although I was 100% right about the GDA League. Why would a father gloat about what we all have gone though? A bad coach would only find this funny and mock most of us

You will find peace only after you stop blaming others for where you are and recognize that you cannot control other people. Soccer clubs, leagues, and coaches have always, will aways, and should always make decisions they believe best serve their own interests. Expecting anyone to act in a way that is best for you but not them only leads to constant disappointment and inevitable failure.

You are a consumer. That is your role. You can buy Coke (Blues) or Pepsi (Slammers), or a cheaper brand like RC that isn’t quite as good (Beach), or go with the least expensive house brand that tastes like crap but is good enough if you’re a cheap bastard and don’t have high expectations for quality (AYSO). Or you can buy a Sprite (youth softball). Why do you waste time in the soda aisle day dreaming that Coke will change its prices or RC will change its formula and, even more ludicrous, that someday all cola brands will just get together and become equally good and also free? Why do you whine to all the other shoppers who pass by that cola companies should do all these crazy things you want because, well, it’s what’s best for the kids?
 
You will find peace only after you stop blaming others for where you are and recognize that you cannot control other people. Soccer clubs, leagues, and coaches have always, will aways, and should always make decisions they believe best serve their own interests. Expecting anyone to act in a way that is best for you but not them only leads to constant disappointment and inevitable failure.

You are a consumer. That is your role. You can buy Coke (Blues) or Pepsi (Slammers), or a cheaper brand like RC that isn’t quite as good (Beach), or go with the least expensive house brand that tastes like crap but is good enough if you’re a cheap bastard and don’t have high expectations for quality (AYSO). Or you can buy a Sprite (youth softball). Why do you waste time in the soda aisle day dreaming that Coke will change its prices or RC will change its formula and, even more ludicrous, that someday all cola brands will just get together and become equally good and also free? Why do you whine to all the other shoppers who pass by that cola companies should do all these crazy things you want because, well, it’s what’s best for the kids?
Ok coach. My soda had poison asshole and I will find out who put the poison in my soda pop. All those who sold me this crap are gone and the soda company just closed the soda store.
 
It seems it would solve the following.
-da clubs can offer national league for their teams
- da teams/club remain "elite"
-da clubs still play other da teams
-the state cup and that current path to regional and national is still available to the other clubs
- you have a consolidated structure
- and a national championship in this format is more prestigious vs just a da national championship since now you are including many other teams into the finals
So this is direct competition with the MLS & GAL offerings? There's a prerequisite that the teams have be in a USYS conference, which the MLS or GAL teams don't currently. You also have to "earn the right" to play in the National Showcase Series.

The conferences, currently, don't align with the MLS/GAL regions either.

I think maybe its USYS looking to grab some top teams back, but not sure the DA clubs would be happy with all their teams having to qualify etc. USYS's National League has always been merit based unlike the closed leagues on a team by team basis. I can't see them giving a pass to every year group for clubs based on a badge they had, rather than on those individual teams having to earn the right.

PS. Sounds like the worse solution for DA clubs, if they dominate, what's the point; if they don't what have they been selling - I expect they wouldn't dominate, I expect they know this and I expect they would never take the risk that parents will see this.
 
So this is direct competition with the MLS & GAL offerings? There's a prerequisite that the teams have be in a USYS conference, which the MLS or GAL teams don't currently. You also have to "earn the right" to play in the National Showcase Series.

The conferences, currently, don't align with the MLS/GAL regions either.

I think maybe its USYS looking to grab some top teams back, but not sure the DA clubs would be happy with all their teams having to qualify etc. USYS's National League has always been merit based unlike the closed leagues on a team by team basis. I can't see them giving a pass to every year group for clubs based on a badge they had, rather than on those individual teams having to earn the right.

PS. Sounds like the worse solution for DA clubs, if they dominate, what's the point; if they don't what have they been selling - I expect they wouldn't dominate, I expect they know this and I expect they would never take the risk that parents will see this.

So technically the clubs where the teams reside are already part of USYS. Looking at the DPL league there are DPL teams playing national league. I look at this as maybe another offering on top of a GAL/DPL league. Play both if they want to, an example would be under the DPL Rules teams can play St leagues as well. I don't think the article reads very well with a lot of unknowns, but very interesting.
 
So this is direct competition with the MLS & GAL offerings? There's a prerequisite that the teams have be in a USYS conference, which the MLS or GAL teams don't currently. You also have to "earn the right" to play in the National Showcase Series.

The conferences, currently, don't align with the MLS/GAL regions either.

I think maybe its USYS looking to grab some top teams back, but not sure the DA clubs would be happy with all their teams having to qualify etc. USYS's National League has always been merit based unlike the closed leagues on a team by team basis. I can't see them giving a pass to every year group for clubs based on a badge they had, rather than on those individual teams having to earn the right.

PS. Sounds like the worse solution for DA clubs, if they dominate, what's the point; if they don't what have they been selling - I expect they wouldn't dominate, I expect they know this and I expect they would never take the risk that parents will see this.
Folks putting their DD's into GAL need to know it will be sanctioned by USSSA which basically means no State Cup, no National Cup, no anything. They will play in a league. Throw in a showcase that won't be attended and won't expose their players to any real competition out of fear that the parents and players will realize they are paying a lot of money for nothing. DPL was going to switch to USSSA sanctioning next year and hadn't figured out how to tell the parents there was no carrot so be prepared. If you are ok paying a lot of money for local games and a showcase somewhere with no ability to play any real national competition then GAL may just be for you.

Parents need to be aware too that college coaches will be cutting WAY WAY back on recruiting travel this year. College coaches will go where they can get the most bang for their travel buck. That's going to be ECNL events and a few major showcases nationally. A GAL showcase isn't going to be on anyone's recruiting list as it's unproven and won't showcase the best talent pools. Just another thing to consider with GAL.
 
So technically the clubs where the teams reside are already part of USYS. Looking at the DPL league there are DPL teams playing national league. I look at this as maybe another offering on top of a GAL/DPL league. Play both if they want to, an example would be under the DPL Rules teams can play St leagues as well. I don't think the article reads very well with a lot of unknowns, but very interesting.
Yes, but those DPL teams had to earn that right to play in national league, along with everyone else, and obviously not every DPL team in a club was play NL as they hadn't earned it. If someone now gets a pass because they are in "exDA" club, wouldn't that degrade the status of the league, never mind potentially the quality.
 
Folks putting their DD's into GAL need to know it will be sanctioned by USSSA which basically means no State Cup, no National Cup, no anything. They will play in a league. Throw in a showcase that won't be attended and won't expose their players to any real competition out of fear that the parents and players will realize they are paying a lot of money for nothing. DPL was going to switch to USSSA sanctioning next year and hadn't figured out how to tell the parents there was no carrot so be prepared. If you are ok paying a lot of money for local games and a showcase somewhere with no ability to play any real national competition then GAL may just be for you.

Parents need to be aware too that college coaches will be cutting WAY WAY back on recruiting travel this year. College coaches will go where they can get the most bang for their travel buck. That's going to be ECNL events and a few major showcases nationally. A GAL showcase isn't going to be on anyone's recruiting list as it's unproven and won't showcase the best talent pools. Just another thing to consider with GAL.
It was always sanctioned under USSSA, https://www.dpleague.org/about.html, and the DPL teams could play state leagues/cups etc.
 
@Dominic has interceded before in situations where aliases got out of control by reviewing some of the technical aspects on the back end of things. I'd strongly advise @Ellejustus and anyone else to report anything inappropriate to @Dominic, especially anything that is received via DM / PM so that it's addressed accordingly. There's no room for that kind of nonsense on here. Differing opinions and takes are one thing but certain lines shouldn't be crossed.
I'm good. I'm not gonna say I wasnt tempted to make some avatars like me and support my blind side. I can handle things you guys. Thanks for thinking of me.
 
So this is direct competition with the MLS & GAL offerings? There's a prerequisite that the teams have be in a USYS conference, which the MLS or GAL teams don't currently. You also have to "earn the right" to play in the National Showcase Series.

The conferences, currently, don't align with the MLS/GAL regions either.

I think maybe its USYS looking to grab some top teams back, but not sure the DA clubs would be happy with all their teams having to qualify etc. USYS's National League has always been merit based unlike the closed leagues on a team by team basis. I can't see them giving a pass to every year group for clubs based on a badge they had, rather than on those individual teams having to earn the right.

PS. Sounds like the worse solution for DA clubs, if they dominate, what's the point; if they don't what have they been selling - I expect they wouldn't dominate, I expect they know this and I expect they would never take the risk that parents will see this.
To be honest we have to see their actual specifics they say is coming out in 2-3 weeks supposedly.

At first blush it appears to be an effort however to unify the soccer leagues which would be a good thing.
 
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