Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

What causes envy and jealousy?
Jealousy also stems from feelings of inadequacy, though they are usually more conscious than with envy. However, whereas envy is the desire to possess what someone else has, jealousy is the fear of losing what we have. ...((Like our top goats? No one owns a goat BTW. I'm sick and tired of hearing how clubs think they developed the goat. No, the suits did not. They trained the Goat only. Goat must do the work and most importantly, have the physical tools to play at the highest goat level))

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methood said:
I don’t think anyone is jealous of blues. Honestly. They have crappy old coaches that get laughed at behind their backs. No one cares for their work.

having said that they’ve done a tremendous job marketing to girls soccer and standing on the shoulders of giants. This has allowed them to walk up to little girls in parking lots and stupid parents think it’s the biggest thing in the world. It sick.

but there ya go...
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There is nothing wrong with having experience. Old is good. Also there is nothing wrong by recruiting the best most athletic players and having them compete with each other and play together. Isn’t that what all the best teams in sports do. Ask Barcelona why it pays to have the best play and train with the best. Nothing better for development than playing against the top competition and training with the best players and athletes. I played basketball when I was younger and I remember getting better by going to the park and playing with the best black ballers out there. As I became better they wanted me on their team.
 
Also late bloomers in their sports... Michael Jordan.. Shaquille O'Neil.. Tom Brady... none were stand youth players going into high school. What they had they some early bloomers do not is drive. My son might have been considered a late bloomer. Think of the typical kid every dad coach puts in goal because they look less athletic and may be a little slower when we all.start.are.kids out playing. That kid is now 6'3" and one of the fastest on his squad. He can dunk two handed no problem and is having great conversations with schools looking for a keeper.
 
methood said:
The fact that you think if your daughter isn’t “approached” by a “big club” and now you become the authority and telling her she doesn’t have what it takes to play in college? Some “Dad”? You’re a loser man. Repent.
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And you’re illiterate and have poor reading comprehension. It doesn’t take elite club soccer to play in college. AYSO or something cheaper will do dumb ass.
 
MacDre said:
My kid has never played club and was developed in TJ. I have never paid more than $10.00 per month in fees.
TJ also has an Olympic development center to train kids at low to no cost in all sports. My kid has also gone to tournaments throughout Mexico and the flights are often sponsored by Volaris.
I hate the fact that youth sports have been monitized!
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And how do you think that is financed? How was the center funded and who pays its operating costs? Because I bet the $10/month the players pay doesn't cover it. SO, who is paying?
 
SouthBayFutbol said:
I get the feeling you are moving the goalposts a little here.

You go from what comes across as somewhat of a vindictive reason not to add clubs:
"Because the clubs that did all the work and put all the money in have no incentive to let those that didn’t enjoy the benefit of hard work and financial risk taking. Because the clubs that didn’t do the hard work and take the financial risks have no entitlement to anything. Because clubs like Surf, Blues and Slammers have already proven they develop talent and provide value, and they don’t care how much people who aren’t willing to pay for it whine."

To ECNL is under no legal obligation to add teams.

Of course ECNL is under no legal obligation to add teams and does anybody really need to research their bylaws to agree with that? You are stating a fact that no one has disputed. This is, however, about an opportunity to finally get the top teams in Southern California, under 1 platform, to play each other and elevate the league.

I'm sure parents that have been through this process can attest to the importance of your Club's coaches in the recruiting process. They are the link between colleges and players. Those that have a solid reputation and track record of producing top talent will give their players the nod over the coaches that do not.

So unless and until these coaches at top GDA Clubs leave, there will not be this mass exodus of players that many are predicting. A few will certainly leave but those with aspirations will still go to the top clubs in ECNL that have those college connections (LAFC, Surf & Blues). Meaning the ECNL SW stays top heavy with results for 80% of their games being 8-0 instead of 4-0.

Again this is not about entitlement, legal or even moral obligation of anyone. But wouldn't it be nice if the ECNL SW division had: LAFC, Surf, Beach, Legends, Blues, RSC, LAG, Heat FC, Phoenix Rising, Slammers playing against each other every weekend? Tell me how that does not "Raise the Game..."
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Believe me the mass exodus will happen. It did years ago when ECNL was created, it happend when GDA was created. Good players are going to get displaced by better players. It isn't a bad thing. As I have said for the last 10 years there are only about 25-40 elite players per birth year in SoCal and less in many other markets. All of these self styled "elite" clubs and teams have for the most part got good but not elite players. Dilution was the biggest problem since the leagues splintered years ago. There really should only be about 2-3 teams per age group at the top of the pyramid in SoCal but due to geographic restraints you might have to double that number. Lots of those players that aren't in the top 25-40 are mostly role players anyway.

The Purge is coming and it will be a good thing for everyone. If everyone is elite then nobody is. Reality checks are in the mail and a lot of people are going to like what they get.....
 
vegasguy said:
Also late bloomers in their sports... Michael Jordan.. Shaquille O'Neil.. Tom Brady... none were stand youth players going into high school. What they had they some early bloomers do not is drive. My son might have been considered a late bloomer. Think of the typical kid every dad coach puts in goal because they look less athletic and may be a little slower when we all.start.are.kids out playing. That kid is now 6'3" and one of the fastest on his squad. He can dunk two handed no problem and is having great conversations with schools looking for a keeper.
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you forgot to mention how Shaquille was a genetic specimen himself and Jordan was a
freak athlete. But I do agree, the mind will dictate how far you go. You can be a late bloomer but you better have the mental part
 
Butt-Head said:
There is nothing wrong with having experience. Old is good. Also there is nothing wrong by recruiting the best most athletic players and having them compete with each other and play together. Isn’t that what all the best teams in sports do. Ask Barcelona why it pays to have the best play and train with the best. Nothing better for development than playing against the top competition and training with the best players and athletes. I played basketball when I was younger and I remember getting better by going to the park and playing with the best black ballers out there. As I became better they wanted me on their team.
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....heyheyeyeyyeyeyey. What happen to you? Did you get China virus?
 
Butt-Head said:
you forgot to mention how Shaquille was a genetic specimen himself and Jordan was a
freak athlete. But I do agree, the mind will dictate how far you go. You can be a late bloomer but you better have the mental part
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I watched this guy play at RSM. He was not that good. WSU took a chance his Sr year in HS because they saw something and his dad was a good baller. This is a late bloomer...


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Dof3 said:
And how do you think that is financed? How was the center funded and who pays its operating costs? Because I bet the $10/month the players pay doesn't cover it. SO, who is paying?
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He’s comparing apples to oranges. $10 a month may mean something in Mexico. Here in California one can wipe their ass with that, it’s what a pack of toilet paper costs. It’s not realistic for Cali
 
vegasguy said:
Also late bloomers in their sports... Michael Jordan.. Shaquille O'Neil.. Tom Brady... none were stand youth players going into high school. What they had they some early bloomers do not is drive. My son might have been considered a late bloomer. Think of the typical kid every dad coach puts in goal because they look less athletic and may be a little slower when we all.start.are.kids out playing. That kid is now 6'3" and one of the fastest on his squad. He can dunk two handed no problem and is having great conversations with schools looking for a keeper.
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Uh, no. All of those players were great youth athletes. Maybe not the best but still in the top 10% of their respective cohort.

And FYI, I grew up with Brady and he’s always been a good but slow athlete.
 
oh canada said:
A play on logic that some may fall for, but as you know, just because some U10/11 Blues players went on to play D1 doesn't mean that many (or more) of their players in D1 and elsewhere were recruited over at U13/14 and up. Not sure how old your kids are, but it's common knowledge for current u8-u15 families that Blues' parking lot approaches are as frequent as USSF f**k ups. Nobody said anything about "preventing" recruiting. But everyone wins if the clubs are more intent on developing their players vs. luring them over.

PS - the prior reply wasn't really a "trope" at all. "Parking lot approaches" is a trope.
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You agreed that Blues emphasizes recruiting over development, and that is an inaccurate trope.

Of course they sell their services to those in the market. They are a business. They are “recruiting” just like Mercedes is recruiting when it advertises in tv. They’re doing exactly what they should be doing when they aren’t spending most of their time developing players.
 
LB Mom 78 said:
How will the DA clubs left out of ECNL retain top coaches? I foresee a mass exodus of quality coaches from those clubs.
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I can say that in our small club, the 3 coaches that coached DA are all integral to the club operation and will not be going anywhere. Most of the DA girls in the club were there well before DA and only played DA because that’s what came to their club. There are a few that came over because they were attracted by DA, but not many, and those might look to leave. Also some of the top DA players from the club want to continue playing at the highest available and now have a tough choice to make. It’s an especially difficult decision for players on my DD’s team because the team is very strong (stronger than the nearby ECNL competition).
 
Dof3 said:
And how do you think that is financed? How was the center funded and who pays its operating costs? Because I bet the $10/month the players pay doesn't cover it. SO, who is paying?
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Many of the youth coaches volunteer. The Olympic Development Center is funded by the government.
Childhood obesity is a problem and it’s cheaper to establish a healthy active lifestyle while young than deal with the health problems associated with physical inactivity. So, the mindset is that an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
 
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