Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

GeekKid said:
Funny, Surf has this web page on their site but not accessible from the main page. Even funnier is you type ENCL in the search bar at the main page and it comes back with no results...

www.surfsoccer.com

Elite Clubs National League (ECNL) - San Diego Surf Soccer Club

Established in 1977, the San Diego Surf Soccer Club is the elite competitive youth soccer club in San Diego, creating the next generation of National team players.
www.surfsoccer.com www.surfsoccer.com
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Insider trading or something like that is my guess. Always ahead of the news. I know I'm a narcissistic crazy loser and fool when I'm not well, but this is just so interesting. I will shut up now. My PMs are lighting up. When will we find out about all the other clubs?
 
I love this chaos!!!!! The first shoe has dropped, now that ECNL is licking their chops, they wont expect to the 2nd shoe to drop soon (college scholarships shrinking). For those that are all into the ECNL thing, watch out for colleges to drop soccer programs and shrink scholarships. Here's why:
1. Universities are losing money and will lose more now that they move to distance learning
2. Parents are pushing back on these $60k+ college fees a year, this means less revenue for colleges.
3. IF (big if), states like California do not allow for public gatherings in September, you will have a huge downfall of ticket sales for Football Games. Football funds most athletic programs. If they take a big hit, all sports teams suffer.

4. High School is the big winner, if you can now get the best players doing both ECNL and High School, you can recruit out of High School playoff games. Keep in mind that budgets will be tight for T&E as well for scouts.


Bottom line, welcome to the new world!!!!!!
 
What a statement. They chose the wrong platform. They were smug about it. They trashed the league they left. They turned out to be wrong. But this was their idea. And so they fellate themselves in a press release saying "We knew it all along!" Wow. Youth soccer in the US isn't going to get better until the arrogant, self-righteous jerks are out of it. So, but that standard, I mean just after Miss Piggy flies across the frozen tundras of Hell.
 
Emma said:
Making this announcement and decision during the Pandemic while children and families are already under financial and social stress is as callous as it gets. Support and fan base for US Soccer will decline. Although I've always preferred to not have DA (or ECNL), just the open promotion and relegation systems for teams, the timing and manner of this could not be worse. I do hope US Soccer has a decent method of transition for players and coaches.
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I agree 100%. What all these Docs don;t understand is the female older players are sick of this sh*t. I know girls who worked their asses off the last three years in this GDA league and then their HS was closed down, no more sports, grounded and just hoping to come back before the season is over. Then they cancel the season. Then they closed their doors. Again, the kids are not thought about. I'm not signing up for nothing until the dust clears and a few more of all my questions get answered. I have fun here with the adults but I will say the girls will not be happy and mom and dad might tell these leagues to shove it.
 
methood said:
*LOL* they aren’t the top non mls boys club in the nation. NOT EVEN CLOSE. The fact they are selling this as “we made this choice months prior” is a lie.

same lies over and over.

SURF JOINS THE ECNL


For 43 years, San Diego Surf has been creating the Best Experiences and Opportunities for our athletes and has established itself as a perennial national powerhouse. This year is no exception as our club is the #1 Ranked Girls Program and the Top Non-MLS Boys Program in the nation. We accomplish this success by having an incredible group of athletes, employing a premium coaching staff, playing at the best facility, partnering with industry leaders (i.e. Nike and Man City) and by competing at the highest levels in the game.

Today, after carefully considering every option, we are announcing a change in one of those success variables. Moving forward we are proud to announce our older age girls and boys teams will be competing in the ECNL (Elite Clubs National League).

We began a process more than six months ago to evaluate the right national league format for our club. We have reviewed all options available to Surf and kept our mission and our athletes at the center of our decision-making process. In the past few months it has become clear there was instability within the Development Academy (DA) while the ECNL continued to gain strength, influence and momentum. With today’s pending announcement by US Soccer, to end the DA, it appears that our process and concerns were well justified. Nonetheless, our final decision to join ECNL was made prior to any US Soccer announcement and we are thrilled to once again be a part of the ECNL. Among many reasons, we based our conclusion on three clear benefits provided by the ECNL. First, the ECNL will offer the best competition in Southern California and on the National stage. Second, the ECNL will allow more flexibility and opportunities for each individual player. Third, the ECNL is more mission aligned with Surf as a youth sports organization. The ECNL is an organization focused on youth soccer teams and empowering youth athletes on and off the field – with a focus on college exposure and direct access to the U.S. National Teams.
What Does This Mean For Our Players & Families?

Does Surf still play in the top league in SoCal? YES – a power shift has occurred and in 2020/21 the ECNL will include the best clubs in SoCal.

Do our 1st and 2nd teams have a platform to win the National Championship? YES

Do we still have national showcases for college and pro scout exposure? YES

Do we still have the same access to US scouts and the US National Youth Teams? YES

Are our 1st and 2nd teams included in this transition? YES - our tops teams will play in the ECNL and our 2nd teams will play in the ECNL Regional League.

Does our soccer calendar change dramatically? NO, however there will be an option to play high school soccer.
There will be more details to follow, including individual team meetings and webinars on the ECNL. We will make sure the communication is comprehensive and transparent.

Due to our national prominence, Surf has been directly involved in all discussions at the highest levels of youth soccer and we believe strongly this is the best move for the Surf Family. We didn’t make this decision lightly or without many hours of internal deliberation and careful consideration. With that in mind we are certain the ECNL is the right partner for Surf.

Sincerely,
Team Surf
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Stay classy San Diego.....:rolleyes:
 
Total Clown show.

No meetings scheduled with our DD or her DA team regarding any announcements forthcoming. Did Surf tell the parents in meetings beforehand, or just release a pdf via email this am?
 
dad4 said:
Who said I supported DA?

I agree with you that DA sucks. I just don’t see why ECNL is much better, though I agree with you on sub rules. Limited subs is a recipe for playing while hurt.

ACL and concussions are important. That’s not snark. That is frustration coming out. My kid is getting near puberty and headers, therefore it is time to decide whether to drop the sport entirely.

How many ACL tears and repeat concussions in your league last year? How many ACL tears and repeat concussions at your club? Do you even know?

Does ECNL even track the data? If you don’t track the data, how on earth can you hope to keep the kids safe?
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My dd has played both ECNL and DA, ECNL was nothing more than SCDSL with some playoffs thrown in. DA has provided an excellent platform and dd is now committed to a top D1 school. I do agree the sub rules were not necessary but did not result in any injuries other than skinned and bruised legs and a few ankle sprains, which happens as they get older. In the last two and half years with DA, there have not been any ACL tears and only one mild concussion on her team. By the way, DA protocol of professional brain assessment prior to the beginning of the each season was great. Having a trainer at every game was great, ACL warm up before every practice and game was good. A lot of non DA teams do this too, it really falls on the coach and his/her commitment to safety. DA limiting the number of games that could be played on consecutive days and a minimum number of hours between games even if on different days was great. At least at the local level, the protection of our dds was excellent. Did we like the travel, absolutely not but dd did. She was able to handle a rigorous academic school load, the soccer and still have time for too much screen time, shopping and spending time with her friends. As far as spending time with elementary school friends or AYSO teammates in high school soccer, she just wasn't interested. Many of those "friends", spend their spare time partying, and are not as focused on their school work and moved on to different interest. That's fine, but her priority is family, school, soccer and her soccer friends, many who have been together on the team for 5 years. Once some of the girls started driving having teammates at different high schools has not been a problem, they find a way to meet up after school or on the weekends. The competition in the DA has been great. The biggest downside was the travel, but if you were careful and planed ahead you could get some cheap flights but the hotel expense was always too much. It is really too bad the leagues couldn't have figured out a way to exist together. Maybe if DA had dropped the no high school rule for those who wanted it things would have worked out. But I really doubt that, in the end it is about money, power and control at the top. Clubs that went back from DA to ECNL I suspect it had a lot to do with money not really high school soccer. They lost a lot of money by not being able to hold large tournaments to bring in the big money to their club. Oh well, forward and onward. The ones who have suffered the most with all this mess are the players, what the parents (including myself) think about the leagues doesn't matter. A lot of the bitter comments are from parents who didn't have a realistic assessment of their players ability or desire to put in the long hard work to achieve their dream and thought their kid would be at the highest level. Even ECNL families have the same expectation that their player is so good that they will be recruited to play in college. As far as the money, it is too much. ECNL was almost as expensive. But be real, most sports are expensive as the athlete ages. Just talk to volleyball players, gymnastic athletes, tennis athletes, golf, ice skaters, etc. etc. etc. In the end, if your player has been happy and proud to be where they have played and developed a love of the game, that is great. Paying for your child to play a sport is sure a lot better than paying for drug rehab or counseling for a kid who has no focus or becomes involved with the wrong group. There are many temptations and distractions for our youth today. If your player can come out of this with a strong work ethic, can manage their time and commit to their team mates, this will bode well for them when they are out in the real world work force. How your player handles this mess will be in great part a reflection of your attitude and behavior and a great life lesson.
 
Dof3 said:
What a statement. They chose the wrong platform. They were smug about it. They trashed the league they left. They turned out to be wrong. But this was their idea. And so they fellate themselves in a press release saying "We knew it all along!" Wow. Youth soccer in the US isn't going to get better until the arrogant, self-righteous jerks are out of it. So, but that standard, I mean just after Miss Piggy flies across the frozen tundras of Hell.
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That Surf email seemed like a Trump tweet...got to rewrite history
 
Sandypk said:
Does any of this even matter? ECNL may be gone too after all of this is over.
Scientists predicting social distancing until 2022. I’m not really too worried about
what league or college my dd attends at this point. Online learning until at least 2021.
www.cnn.com

US may have to endure social distancing until 2022 if no vaccine is quickly found, scientists predict | CNN

Social distancing may be the new normal for quite a while.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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There is a separate thread for Corona talk.....please don't derail this one.....it's nice to have a distraction......
 
Dof3 said:
What a statement. They chose the wrong platform. They were smug about it. They trashed the league they left. They turned out to be wrong. But this was their idea. And so they fellate themselves in a press release saying "We knew it all along!" Wow. Youth soccer in the US isn't going to get better until the arrogant, self-righteous jerks are out of it. So, but that standard, I mean just after Miss Piggy flies across the frozen tundras of Hell.
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This is correct if you believe that these are all the same people, which they are not. Surf has had big changes in the hierarchy over the last several years. So the people there now making these decisions are not the ones you reference and allude to. As an organization, point taken, but the makeup of the people and DOCs making these decisions are not entirely the same.
And does any of this really matter right now? Kids won’t be playing for a lot longer then most think.
And I thought ElleJustus?? said he/she was going to shut up? PLEASE, please stop posting
 
MakeAPlay said:
We never saw anybody try to take her out while playing high school soccer so I am not sure that is an actual thing..
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Great post and congrats again to your daughter. Hopefully we will get to see her play when the world starts up again.

While players purposefully trying to take out a player it does happen. When DD was a freshman she was in a game where I knew the referee. The next day the ref said that after DD scored her second goal, the ref overheard the opposing defense saying something about "take out #??". The ref warned them that if anything happened to any player on DD's team that those defenders would not play the rest of the season. I still think HS soccer (and other sports) can be a great experience and should be allowed for anyone that wants to play.
 
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