Soccerfan2
GOLD
Many NorCal DA people are going to have the same kind of logistics issues with ECNL.
Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA
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SoccerGuru
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Why would ECNL allow a club to have boys ecnl but not allow the same club in on the girls side?
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That press release is self-serving garbage regardless of who wrote it and whomever approved its release is presumably still employed there. If you don't see that they released it today, ahead of the anticipated US Soccer announcement, with a "No, no, THIS WAS OUR IDEA ALL ALONG!" tone, then wear your Surf hoodie with pride. Surf fields good teams, as do many other DA clubs. But the way they run their club needs redress. And they are not alone. Maybe all clubs do. The Albion press release after the disaster at Albion cup was worse. Soccer clubs could do with a little more attention to character and modeling the traits they purport to teach kids and a lot less to marketing BS and self-aggrandizement.
That press release is self-serving garbage regardless of who wrote it and whomever approved its release is presumably still employed there. If you don't see that they released it today, ahead of the anticipated US Soccer announcement, with a "No, no, THIS WAS OUR IDEA ALL ALONG!" tone, then wear your Surf hoodie with pride. Surf fields good teams, as do many other DA clubs. But the way they run their club needs redress. And they are not alone. Maybe all clubs do. The Albion press release after the disaster at Albion cup was worse. Soccer clubs could do with a little more attention to character and modeling the traits they purport to teach kids and a lot less to marketing BS and self-aggrandizement.
Because they are owned on the Girls side by Khoury
SoccerGuru
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Who is Khoury?
Hired Gun
SILVER ELITE
I believe West Coast boys dropped ECNL. Maybe clubs will be added in waves to ECNL?? DA did this a few years back. Maybe not this season but the following.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Have no kids in the game anymore but always felt US Soccer really screwed things up by changing the birth years and adding girls DA. They didn’t give shit about the girls and it was 100% evident the DA on the boys side was a failure (e.g. no World Cup qualification for the men!)
Now what does ECNL do?
1) selectively add a handful of girls clubs to maintain eliteness. Most additions should occur
On the boys side w no DA.
2) they should not bring clubs back that left entirely back. Clubs that have kept a boys program with them get to come back. Clubs that are not in the Ecnl will experience a mass exodus of players and will go defunct or be a remnant of what they used to be.
3) delete poor performing clubs that have shown now progress since joining the Ecnl.
Now what does ECNL do?
1) selectively add a handful of girls clubs to maintain eliteness. Most additions should occur
On the boys side w no DA.
2) they should not bring clubs back that left entirely back. Clubs that have kept a boys program with them get to come back. Clubs that are not in the Ecnl will experience a mass exodus of players and will go defunct or be a remnant of what they used to be.
3) delete poor performing clubs that have shown now progress since joining the Ecnl.
Eagle33
PREMIER
If boys West Coast dropped, it will be the worst decision they've made in a while....
There's 2 Khoury's and they have 2 ecnl teams
Changing to birth years could have been (should have been) decades ago. Only the USA observed that awkward Aug. 1 cutoff date.
sirfootyalot
SILVER
From what I’ve heard, the USSF will not make any official announcement other than just letting their membership clubs know. Hard to believe they won’t have any sort of announcement but then again I won’t be surprised with anything they do at this point
Cowards, and gutless wonders! In the middle of a crisis, throw this at the lap of thousands of kids. Shameful...need to ensure these individuals don't have a leadership role again....
I wouldn’t think so...for the SoCal DA Clubs the DPL was the second team, like you said for those that got into ECNL their DPL Team will move to ECRL for next season.
This is going to be interesting....I can see this at some of the older levels due to ECNL
Showcases for recruiting, etc.
At the younger ages ‘07, ‘06, and maybe even ‘05’s with all the uncertainty around college soccer, recruiting etc., it may be smart to be patient and stick together and figure out a way keep the teams together to see what happens...expansion of ECNL for the 21-22 to bring in more clubs, etc. There were some really good deserving clubs, teams, players, and coaches that were left without a chair. It’s a real shame.
Everyone is concerned about being left out, but there will be no tryouts, no practices for quite awhile unless you want to crash team’s Zoom Practice or send coach vids of your kid juggling Toilet Paper. Being patient and letting the dust settle is all anybody can really do right now anyway.
There is going to be some activity for sure, but I don’t know how quick I would be to pull my kid off a really good team that they like, with good chemistry, and a good coach that has everything working/moving in the right direction before all this started to go chase a patch in the next few months with all this uncertainty and chaos about.
Maybe it does go back to how it was before back in the day...aging myself but Dallas Cup, Pikes Peak, there was WAG’s on the Girls side, International Cup in Minn. destination showcases that coaches attend and more local leagues. We played local and went to Destination Events for recruiting, same as today but a local league with a badge instead of a national league with patch. We were always excited when we got to play teams from out west, Nomads or Huntington Beach Black or Midwest Powers like Scott Gallagher, etc. These trips/tournaments were special and a big deal for players, very intense, and not guaranteed.
There is an immense amount of talent in So Cal and college coaches know it. Who knows...Maybe the big conferences sponsor/headline a showcase events in the future - Pac12, ACC...I do believe it will get figured out how to get the kids in front of coaches. It’s just gonna take a little time. Guaranteed somebody will figure out how to further monetize it.
Getting into ECNL is not a winning lottery ticket and not getting in is not a death sentence. No need to panic.
I would throw this out there, if you took the remaining SW DA teams that did not get into ECNL SW and had a stand-alone league in my opinion it would still be pretty even talent wise. There would be really great teams in each.
SoccerGuru
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Can anyone give the reason why ecnl doesn't want to allow legends or beach in even though they are big clubs with really good teams? Are you saying the Khourys have something to do with it? Is it a grudge or issues between club DOCs, etc?
From what everyone has said on the forum surf actually had issues with ecnl owners but were allowed back in, the moves aren't making sense.
Action Jackson
SILVER
Just got a whiff of adidas in partnership with MLS/NWSL preparing a nationwide "DA type" program that isn't exclusive to their academy teams. It will be broken down to regions, then local where it makes sense. Cannot get a straight answer from anyone on timeline, just throat clearing either out of secrecy or they don't know. Don't think they would have time to implement this season unless this has been in the works for longer than we think.
I heard US soccer will NOT make any announcement. They are only telling DA clubs they are done. WILD but not shocking
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Us soccer sucks. The men didn’t qualify for the World Cup and they under pay their women.
Action Jackson
SILVER
I am in agreement. Couldn't get an actual date/time for an announcement, so I'm likely to think it is not imminent (this week). Who knows. This is a pretty poorly managed situation by US Soccer.
That is wise move. Someone told someone no more talking. "Goodbye everyone, nice knowing you all. Let's play 52 card pick up game again real soon." Were all suckers!!!!! Cee Ya!!!
If your son or daughter is on a DA team and the club isn’t going ECNL, there’s no reason to find an ECNL team to join. Your DA team and coach is still the same team. You’ll be in a good league and able to attend tournaments with college coaches watching. No need to panic or jump ship. Prior to today college coaches attended ecnl, DA and then normal big tourneys (surf cup, Vegas, Phoenix etc) so now switch DA with whatever there is now. It’s back to big tourneys and ecnl. Just like before DA. Lots of non ecnl kids went to great schools and had great experiences.
Oh, I'm sure those clubs would love to do this. But any parent that follows them should really have their head examined. ECNL is the top dog. ECNL Regional League is 2nd. Anything else (DPL/NPL/Discovery/etc) is just bullshit if it bills itself as where the top players are at. Sure, there might be a player or 2 on each team that belongs on an ECNL team, but that doesn't mean that overall quality of a 3rd tier league is going to be the best of the best. There will still be some quality soccer played. And the players will get a lot out of it. But any parent that signs up for a "NEW" league again deserves whatever they get.