President Joe Biden

I don't pretend to have the answers, (although I know rioting/looting on either side is not it,) but what happened to being able to have civil discourse? Extremist (on both sides,) and the ability to spread conspiracy theories (thanks to social media) definitely fans the flames.

This site for example- there are a few users that resort to name calling which is no different than a second grader saying "I know you are but what am I!!!" I do appreciate how the lot of this thread has been mature discussion, coming from folks with very different views and opinions.

Fingers crossed that the bitch named 'Rona is erradicated soon and we can get back to bitching about soccer!

There has never been civil discourse as it relates to race. That is just a farce and always has been. I know white folk look back longingly to the “civil” days when black people knew their place and all, but that’s b.s. Shooting black people on bridges in Selma, hanging them from trees, beating them to death for sitting at a lunch counter or the wrong part of a bus, or allegedly looking at a white woman, denying equal employment and educational opportunities, none of that was ever civil.

If you or anyone wants civility, you need to first understand why we lack it, why we’ve always lacked it. Then you’ll understand why people burn down Wendy’s and also storm the Capitol, and which is motivated by a laudable purpose even if you disagree with the methods, and which is for a despicable purpose that too many people here are far too willing to appease, rationalize and even defend. Then you will further understand why civility is not possible and why the only hope is to force magats back into their swamps and under the rocks where cockroaches should hide.

Jean Valjean is not the same as the squash-colored s**tbag although both stole. The 1935 Berlin Riots had a reprehensible purpose, while Nat Turner’s Rebellion did not. Saying all riots are the same and the reason they occurred is irrelevant is utter crap.
 
It’s never ok to murder people, but it is also important to understand why it is happening even if you disagree with what is happening. That is the main difference between us. You refuse to look at the why for whatever reason, maybe you don’t want to acknowledge what you see in the mirror, maybe you’re just an idiot, maybe your a trumpy McPiece o’ shit, maybe you are fine with overthrowing democracy if it means no one can exercise right to choose, I don’t know. But in refusing to consider why these two types of violence are occurring, all you do is normalize the racism, bigotry and desire to overthrow our entire system of government by equating it with the laudable goal of stamping out bigotry, and you do it simply because you don’t like the way each went about it. You also wrongly equate the two types of violence when they are incredibly different. Yes, rioting and looting a street is bad, but that is not even remotely close to rioting and looting the US Capitol.

Unlike you, I recognize there is systemic racism in the US, and that this is a main driving force behind the protests and occasional violence. Only then can you address and correct what is happening. I also recognize why our Capitol was overrun by people who want to overthrow our system of government, because magats are racist, don’t like that their bigoty way of life is coming to an end, and are easily duped by the purported leader of the free leader lying to them because his fragile can’t hold a glass of water ego can’t accept he’s a loser. Only when you understand why something is happening can you hope to make a difference. As long as you and others like you refuse to do so, however, the occasional liquor store will continue to burn. But we know the Capitol won’t get overrun again after Jan. 21 because people - who aren’t idiots like yourself who only want to whine - look beyond what happened, and instead look at why, so they can take appropriate action to address it. Patriots like the Lincoln Project and Meidas Touch already have. They have shamed ‘publicans who have the slightest amount of dignity to vote appropriately and remove people like the excremental yam and Q blondie bimbo of GA out of office. Shaming you douches is the only way that works. I wish y’all had more brains and empathy, but this way is kinda fun too I must admit.
Congratulations on another stoopid post. Fortunately for you you know nothing about me and your ridiculous attribution clearly describes who you are - nice job. Wouldn't it be hilarious if I was a black man (notice I didn't say African American) who understands what it's like to live with bigotry and racism - because it does exist (we agree). In your world it's a pervasive thing that should keep me down all the time and make me rely on people like you to save me. You are not here to save me, BLM for sure has no idea how to save me (they'd rather burn down the economy and shit on their own people).

By the way, I am a Black Man who is an American. I'm not from Africa, have only visited,, but not on vacation, and where I was it wasn't very nice. Your pathetic attempt to paint everything with bigotry and racism is not surprising. You are truly the soccer forum Rambo and you are quite entertaining. Seems like you've also been duped by the Lincoln Project and Meida Touch. I wonder how much money they made off of you. Your reference to them is hilarious and it demonstrates the confined space that you live in.

ANTIFA and BLM have duped you and those of your ilk, much like Trumpers have been duped by Qanon. Your description of Trumpers is rather accurate, but it applies to both far sides of the fence.

but it's ok, resort to name calling, it's your strength. But the joke is really on you. And I still won't ignore you, not just yet. It's nice watching you froth at the mouth and repeating yourself over and over. You demonstrate a clear grasp of words but severely lack intellect.

And lastly, if you happen to be a black person, I'm ashamed.
 
Another escalation. Simon & Schuster has decided to cancel Hawley's book on the Tyranny of Big Tech. This is just going to further the division cultural warriors like Ben Shapiro have been urging for separate publishers, tech, and film/television.
 
also storm the Capitol, and which is motivated by a laudable purpose even if you disagree with the methods, and which is for a despicable purpose that too many people here are far too willing to appease, rationalize and even defend.
You are a human sound bite. Where has anyone (and If you show me, I'll stand corrected) rationalized and defended the criminal activity that occurred yesterday. The protest yesterday was peaceful until it wasn't. Just like the summer protests.
 
Another escalation. Simon & Schuster has decided to cancel Hawley's book on the Tyranny of Big Tech. This is just going to further the division cultural warriors like Ben Shapiro have been urging for separate publishers, tech, and film/television.

Great, let the magats create their own publishing house. Parler is such a great competitor to Twitter, I’m sure Q Publishing will be a smash hit.

Qs aren’t cultural warriors, btw, they’re s**tbags who are learning the hard way what the free market does to people like them. The Burnt Orange Baboon propped them up for a while, but their time is done. Cockroaches don’t have the dough for books after buying their matching sandals and tactical vests anyway.

Oh, and Lincoln Project is coming for Hawley; he’s done after his remaining stint never serving on a real committee because even Moscow Mitch thinks he’s a douche.
 
You are a human sound bite. Where has anyone (and If you show me, I'll stand corrected) rationalized and defended the criminal activity that occurred yesterday. The protest yesterday was peaceful until it wasn't. Just like the summer protests.

Scroll up to every person equating the attempted coup with BLM protests.
 
Scroll up to every person equating the attempted coup with BLM protests.
Your problem is that you think what happened yesterday was an attempted coup. It's a silly comparison and wreaks of partisan rhetoric. What happened yesterday was vandalism and wanton destruction led by a loud minority too stoopid to realize that what they were doing was counterproductive to what the intent of their original protest was about.
 
Congratulations on another stoopid post. Fortunately for you you know nothing about me and your ridiculous attribution clearly describes who you are - nice job. Wouldn't it be hilarious if I was a black man (notice I didn't say African American) who understands what it's like to live with bigotry and racism - because it does exist (we agree). In your world it's a pervasive thing that should keep me down all the time and make me rely on people like you to save me. You are not here to save me, BLM for sure has no idea how to save me (they'd rather burn down the economy and shit on their own people).

By the way, I am a Black Man who is an American. I'm not from Africa, have only visited,, but not on vacation, and where I was it wasn't very nice. Your pathetic attempt to paint everything with bigotry and racism is not surprising. You are truly the soccer forum Rambo and you are quite entertaining. Seems like you've also been duped by the Lincoln Project and Meida Touch. I wonder how much money they made off of you. Your reference to them is hilarious and it demonstrates the confined space that you live in.

ANTIFA and BLM have duped you and those of your ilk, much like Trumpers have been duped by Qanon. Your description of Trumpers is rather accurate, but it applies to both far sides of the fence.

but it's ok, resort to name calling, it's your strength. But the joke is really on you. And I still won't ignore you, not just yet. It's nice watching you froth at the mouth and repeating yourself over and over. You demonstrate a clear grasp of words but severely lack intellect.

And lastly, if you happen to be a black person, I'm ashamed.

“I really don’t care, do u?”.

So much fun that the Burnt Orange Baboon and Bimbo wife set us free from even having to pretend to be civil, eh? I think the term “soccer forum Rambo” is apt, however, and will probably use it, so thx. It is my goal to shove the lack of civility that they thought was so great for the last four years up every magat a** I can find. Maybe they’ll learn something from it, although that’s unlikely, in which case I’m happy to keep rubbing in their faces how they’re whiney loser Karens who contributed to an attempted coup and the end of democracy.
 
Your problem is that you think what happened yesterday was an attempted coup. It's a silly comparison and wreaks of partisan rhetoric. What happened yesterday was vandalism and wanton destruction led by a loud minority too stoopid to realize that what they were doing was counterproductive to what the intent of their original protest was about.

Honestly, you are correct to an extent, and the terminology is mostly for effect. That said, each of them deserves 10 years in prison - other than the dead one who deserves to be dead of course.

But don’t for a second think this was nothing more than a stupid mob of goons who caused property damage. One of them had to be shot to death to protect our congress men and women. What they did also has a massive negative impact on our world standing and, combined with the prior storming of the MI statehouse and attempted takeover in GA, was absolutely intended to subvert democracy. Also do not pretend this wasn’t an element of Bloated Bunker Boy’s attempted coup. What a p.o.s. sore loser, am I right?
 
Honestly, you are correct to an extent, and the terminology is mostly for effect. That said, each of them deserves 10 years in prison - other than the dead one who deserves to be dead of course.
I wouldn't be opposed to sedition charges (not sure if it legally fits though) for the ones that vandalized congressional offices or breached the floor of the Senate or House. While I won't go as far as saying that the woman deserved to be shot, that was a plausible outcome as a result of her actions.
 
I wouldn't be opposed to sedition charges (not sure if it legally fits though) for the ones that vandalized congressional offices or breached the floor of the Senate or House. While I won't go as far as saying that the woman deserved to be shot, that was a plausible outcome as a result of her actions.
I'd also say the jackass sitting in Pelosi's office with that stupid smirk on his face deserves to be Bubba's wife in prison.
 
I think I said earlier in the thread that why the hell anyone would climb through a broken window, at the WH, and not expect to be shot just shows their level of insanity.

So EOTL- you're ok with the BLM protestors looting small business, (that have ZERO ability to help their cause in the first place,) stealing things like shoes, breaking windows and causing total destruction to the corner cafe that's been there for years- all in the name of their cause? Because 100% I am NOT- just like I was sure as shit not ok with yesterday. Not saying two wrongs make a right, just seriously trying to understand your position, no disrespect.

And I really wish you would not assume that everyone here is a "White Karen"
 
I think I said earlier in the thread that why the hell anyone would climb through a broken window, at the WH, and not expect to be shot just shows their level of insanity.

So EOTL- you're ok with the BLM protestors looting small business, (that have ZERO ability to help their cause in the first place,) stealing things like shoes, breaking windows and causing total destruction to the corner cafe that's been there for years- all in the name of their cause? Because 100% I am NOT- just like I was sure as shit not ok with yesterday. Not saying two wrongs make a right, just seriously trying to understand your position, no disrespect.

And I really wish you would not assume that everyone here is a "White Karen"

I have never once said I am ok with BLM protesters looting a business. I have said I understand why it is happening, and that context is important to understand and appreciate if you want change. Until you understand the differences between why BLM protests happen and sometimes devolve into vandalism and the seditionists who disgraced
our Capitol, there’s nothing for us to talk about, because it means you’re not very thoughtful and have no interest in change, you’re just another whiner who is making things worse.

I’ve been pretty up front about why I belittle and mock people as I do. There is no other way to squelch these racist, denialist, obnoxious magats.
 
Honestly, you are correct to an extent, and the terminology is mostly for effect. That said, each of them deserves 10 years in prison - other than the dead one who deserves to be dead of course.

But don’t for a second think this was nothing more than a stupid mob of goons who caused property damage. One of them had to be shot to death to protect our congress men and women. What they did also has a massive negative impact on our world standing and, combined with the prior storming of the MI statehouse and attempted takeover in GA, was absolutely intended to subvert democracy. Also do not pretend this wasn’t an element of Bloated Bunker Boy’s attempted coup. What a p.o.s. sore loser, am I right?
You are dramatic. She wasn't shot to death in the defense of anyone, she was just shot to death, likely by a police officer who has never drawn their service weapon on anger. Sucks to be him or her as well. She was being pulled back out of the window and likely didn't even present a threat to anyone. Maybe we'll get the details of the investigation or maybe not.

They will all get what they deserve, this is easy hunting for the FBI.

But you like to revert back to talking points. This wasn't a coup, the undertakers of a coup usually carry more than flags to storm a building full of armed law enforcement officers and within spitting distance of responding resources. This is an example of poor judgement, ignorance, and criminal behavior. At least the rioters over the summer got something out of vandalizing the Magnificent Mile in Chicago - they at least had better business sense.
 
I have never once said I am ok with BLM protesters looting a business. I have said I understand why it is happening, and that context is important to understand and appreciate if you want change. Until you understand the differences between why BLM protests happen and sometimes devolve into vandalism and the seditionists who disgraced
our Capitol, there’s nothing for us to talk about, because it means you’re not very thoughtful and have no interest in change, you’re just another whiner who is making things worse.

I’ve been pretty up front about why I belittle and mock people as I do. There is no other way to squelch these racist, denialist, obnoxious magats.
Fair enough, thank you for the explanation.
 
It would be a terrible shame if the guy holding the Confederate battle flag in the Capitol was found dead of suicide by two shots to the back of the head.

One of my Vermont sources pointed out that the picture of Confederate flag man was taken right in front of the portrait of Justin Morrrill, one of the most ardent abolitionists in the 1850s and '60s, and one of the founders of the Republican Party.
 
You are dramatic. She wasn't shot to death in the defense of anyone, she was just shot to death, likely by a police officer who has never drawn their service weapon on anger. Sucks to be him or her as well. She was being pulled back out of the window and likely didn't even present a threat to anyone. Maybe we'll get the details of the investigation or maybe not.

They will all get what they deserve, this is easy hunting for the FBI.

But you like to revert back to talking points. This wasn't a coup, the undertakers of a coup usually carry more than flags to storm a building full of armed law enforcement officers and within spitting distance of responding resources. This is an example of poor judgement, ignorance, and criminal behavior. At least the rioters over the summer got something out of vandalizing the Magnificent Mile in Chicago - they at least had better business sense.

She absolutely constituted a grave threat. Leading an angry mob trying to break down the door to the chamber so they could get to congressmen and women is as grave as it gets from the correct perspective, namely those inside the room and tasked with ensuring the lives of our elected officials. She got what she deserved, and a lot more than George Floyd and Breonna Taylor deserved. It’s absolute bs to claim that white magats aren’t a grave threat until they actually kill someone. The standard for black people seems to require nothing more than holding a bag of chips. Or, as the stay puft marmalade man is fond of saying, the standard for black people is “when the looting starts the shooting starts.”

And yes it was an attempted coup. Simply because it was incited by an incompetent, incontinent imbecile who can’t even walk down a ramp, and perpetrated by a bunch of buffoons most of whom are missing half their teeth and all of them an IQ over 90 does not change what it was. It was an attempt to subvert our system of government, period. They were there to stop the duly elected president of the U.S. from being able to take office.

As ridiculously stupid as magats are, minimizing the egregiousness of their actions based on the incompetence in their actions doesn’t change what it was. I’m happy if they go with firing squad instead of 10 years.
 
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