President Joe Biden
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You are dramatic. She wasn't shot to death in the defense of anyone, she was just shot to death, likely by a police officer who has never drawn their service weapon on anger. Sucks to be him or her as well. She was being pulled back out of the window and likely didn't even present a threat to anyone. Maybe we'll get the details of the investigation or maybe not.
They will all get what they deserve, this is easy hunting for the FBI.
But you like to revert back to talking points. This wasn't a coup, the undertakers of a coup usually carry more than flags to storm a building full of armed law enforcement officers and within spitting distance of responding resources. This is an example of poor judgement, ignorance, and criminal behavior. At least the rioters over the summer got something out of vandalizing the Magnificent Mile in Chicago - they at least had better business sense.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
Fair enough, thank you for the explanation.
notintheface
GOLD
It would be a terrible shame if the guy holding the Confederate battle flag in the Capitol was found dead of suicide by two shots to the back of the head.
One of my Vermont sources pointed out that the picture of Confederate flag man was taken right in front of the portrait of Justin Morrrill, one of the most ardent abolitionists in the 1850s and '60s, and one of the founders of the Republican Party.
This means all those f**kers should be charged with felony murder. Every single one of them.
She absolutely constituted a grave threat. Leading an angry mob trying to break down the door to the chamber so they could get to congressmen and women is as grave as it gets from the correct perspective, namely those inside the room and tasked with ensuring the lives of our elected officials. She got what she deserved, and a lot more than George Floyd and Breonna Taylor deserved. It’s absolute bs to claim that white magats aren’t a grave threat until they actually kill someone. The standard for black people seems to require nothing more than holding a bag of chips. Or, as the stay puft marmalade man is fond of saying, the standard for black people is “when the looting starts the shooting starts.”
And yes it was an attempted coup. Simply because it was incited by an incompetent, incontinent imbecile who can’t even walk down a ramp, and perpetrated by a bunch of buffoons most of whom are missing half their teeth and all of them an IQ over 90 does not change what it was. It was an attempt to subvert our system of government, period. They were there to stop the duly elected president of the U.S. from being able to take office.
As ridiculously stupid as magats are, minimizing the egregiousness of their actions based on the incompetence in their actions doesn’t change what it was. I’m happy if they go with firing squad instead of 10 years.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
I agree with a lot of this. And I think most here would.
The “party of Lincoln” is the one with the members who support white supremacy and parade around the Capitol with confederate flags. That’s your party ‘publicans and there’s no denying it now. On behalf of honest Abe, f**k you, and stop using my name.
What an embarrassment. Unless you've been hiding your head in the sand it's obvious Trump has been goading his followers into being more violent as a negotiating tactic to avoid saying he lost the election. But letting it get to the level of the sacking of Congressional building there needs to be a response.
Although I'm confident the feckless democrats and unethical republican leaders will find a way to make sure they do nothing other then spend millions on lawyers (working at big donor law firms).
Although I'm confident the feckless democrats and unethical republican leaders will find a way to make sure they do nothing other then spend millions on lawyers (working at big donor law firms).
How brave of you to continue to rely on racism to push your agenda and create a narrative based on talking points.
Brave words spoken from someone behind a keyboard. I wonder if you have the courage to personally pull the trigger to support your cause.
Courage? Not sure I follow.
Trump own people said he lost the election, so sacking the nations capital because 'Trump doesn't like losing' strikes me as more being grounded in stupidity then courage...
Moreover look how quick Trump is backing down trying to save himself. He called all those people out for a trial by combat. And now that the shite has hit the fan his only concern is saving himself. Courage... hahah
Do you think Trump promised to take down that Tweet about how ugly Mrs. Cruz is- so long as he supports Trump during this dark period? But really though, what type of man fights for a president who still has tweets ripping on his wife publicly out there on his twitter page. What wouldn't this clown do to for power if he's okay with that.
Cruz is a seemingly smart, well spoken individual. But damn when it comes to political game theory... some of his maneuvering really leaves me scratching my head? Sort of like that time he cheered on a government shutdown, I just don't see the endgame here.
Cruz is a seemingly smart, well spoken individual. But damn when it comes to political game theory... some of his maneuvering really leaves me scratching my head? Sort of like that time he cheered on a government shutdown, I just don't see the endgame here.
Ted Cruz says he’d object to Biden electors even knowing about riot, blasts Trump for ‘reckless’ rhetoric
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I'm not following what you are trying to say. I'm referring to someone behind a keyboard talking about sending someone before the firing squad. It's a dumb statement filled with hot air, typical of online forums. Tuff guys with fingers who can type really fast.
What happened at the Capitol Building is shameful. What happened over the summer is shameful. We are a divided and tired country. Both sides have more in common than they care to admit. @ EOTL's fervent hatred of "magats" is equally matched by someone in a "fly over state" who feels their way of life is being threatened by certain ideology. Never shall the two meet as long their saviors spew divisive rhetoric.
As far as Trump is concerned, his time has come. His legacy will not be a good one. I'm not going to waste my time with partisan political attacks or rhetoric, I'll leave that to the hacks. Elected officials are mainly about themselves. If you believe any different ,well, that's on you. And if you think they are going to provide you salvation, think again.
I'm not sure if impeachment/25th amendment is a good strategy or not, but I don't think you can compare what happened at the capital to BLM protests. I know it's easy to fall into that, especially for right leaning MAGA types, but it's apples and oranges. You have one group that was protesting/rioting due to 100s of years of systemic racism and police brutality versus a group of brainwashed MAGA/Qanon types instigated by a standing president of the US. Trump has literally been grooming these people. It's just not the same no matter how you try and paint it. This isn't justifying violence or looting, @EOTL is correct in saying the "Why" is very important here.
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whatithink
GOLD
I agree that the violence in the summer was shameful, just as the violence at the Capitol Building was shameful. I don't think that anyone, as is now happening, should correlate the two. They are distinctly different events, perpetuated for distinctly different reasons.
I find it odd that more has not been made of all the election fraud rhetoric that has been ongoing through the summer by T. I find it odd that more has not been made of the fact that T started this when he was elected and lost the popular vote. I find it odd that more has not been made of the commission T setup, as President, and filled with hacks, and which found zero evidence to support his lies.
The utter stupidity, and I can only call them that, of the people who violently forced their way into the Capitol Building is frankly staggering. They literally live streamed their illegal behavior. They took pictures of themselves and publicly boasted about their illegal actions. They obviously felt (and hopefully don't still feel, but they are stupid so who knows) that they could do what they want, up to and including breaking the law with complete impunity.
T's legacy is fucked. There's no way he can walk this back. His kids political ambitions are fucked now too. They participated in this too. His own supporters are turning on him due to his latest recording ... he doesn't even have the balls to face the press, ffs. T's supporters remind me of the scene from "The Life of Brian" when John Cleese's character is asked how he knows "Brian" is the Messiah - his reply, "Because I've followed enough of them in my time" (or words to that effect). Unfortunately, his "supporters" will now move on to the next nutter.
You just can’t help yourself with the bothsides-ism can you? There was an attempted coup. A very specific and well-defined group desecrated out Capitol incited by a deranged cheeto, who is trying desperately to take down democracy because his itty bitty, uh, ego can’t accept that he’s a s**tbag loser. Yet here you are once again equating their behavior to those who criticize it. BS. You are part of the problem.
You’re not exactly a tuff guy @happy9. You’re even more pathetic than the magats you are kinda sorta criticizing. You don’t get to spend 4 years bothsides-ing everything and blaming BLM for causing white supremacist magats to storm out Capitol. So pathetic to jump off the tangerine titanic at the bitter end like his sad little cabinet members and Lady G, and then tell those who knew all along and suffered their abuse and for four years that we need to play nice. Where were you years ago when it was plain fro anyone with a brain to see what was happening? You were banging out paltry excuses for magat behavior, rationalizing their abhorrent by claiming it’s the same on bothsides. Even now you can’t even state your opposition to a coup without throwing blame at BLM or anyone who criticizes a side that cannot be reasonably defended. You should change your handle to @collaboratorman.
Copy. Sorry I jumped into the conversation without reading enough back enough posts.
To @Grace T.'s point, it's not just Trump though. I blame Reagan and his dismantling of sound social programs such as public education, failed trickle down economics, or his tax overhaul. Reagan did do some good things, but a lot of his policies had a significant negative impact on where we are today. Obviously Dems could've fixed these problems and didn't. They're to blame as well.
I just wish folks would look at politicians and ask "What's in it for them?". Sadly people don't do enough of this and if they truly looked at this, they'd see that folks like Sanders and AOC, are the minority who seem to truly care about their constituents. Most politicians are grifters and have some angle that benefits themselves, both dems and repubs.
I just wish folks would look at politicians and ask "What's in it for them?". Sadly people don't do enough of this and if they truly looked at this, they'd see that folks like Sanders and AOC, are the minority who seem to truly care about their constituents. Most politicians are grifters and have some angle that benefits themselves, both dems and repubs.
I agree about not correlating the two. However I do think it is worth taking a moment to reaffirm that no one's life here in America is bad enough they need to be looting and rioting.
If Trump hadn't seen how eager leaders in Seattle, Portland, etc were to bow in the face of looters and rioting he never would have dared to try this.