I was sent another video that shows an interview with kid from NJ who said he was one of a group of people who was trying to pull her back through the window. He clearly states that it was either secret service or capitol police that opened fire after warning her to not come close. Eye witness statements will always vary. It's easy to check who fired their service weapon.It was really hard to tell from the video, for sure. What was confusing was that there was another video floating around of a maga protester boasting he "shot a woman" and a fellow protester asked "is she dead"? So maybe it was "friendly" fire? Should be interesting to see how it plays out.
trump is trump, nothing else.Something which I read that I think will ring true. Both Trump and the opposition made the mistake of thinking it was all about Trump. Trump wasn't the river...Trump was the dam.
Man, I can feel how worked up you are - please go away while adults are trying to have a conversation. Close the door, draw your shades tight and revel in yourself. But, I know you won't do it, instead you'll turn to the bonus page in your playbook and work yourself up some more. I should put you on ignore but then I'd miss all of your repetitive and amusing rhetoric.The Confederacy won! Y’all must be so proud!View attachment 9873
The overwhelming majority of us are right where we want to be, it’s the crybabies that are unstable and upset.Some prominent D voices are calling for Trump's removal or an article 25 removal. His most recent tweet inflaming things is encouraging them.
Facebook is taking down the earlier Trump statement.
Hawley-Cruz in an impossible position...if they continue their protest they'll be condemned for giving this outrageous act validation. If they drop it, they will be signing the death warrant of the Republican Party. Even former President Bush weighed in.
Lot's of lines being crossed. I said weeks ago the republic is not in a good place and said stuff like this might happen, and we aren't even to the inauguration yet. The Republic is not in a good place.
I'm just now seeing that too- dude with a blue sweatshirt?I was sent another video that shows an interview with kid from NJ who said he was one of a group of people who was trying to pull her back through the window. He clearly states that it was either secret service or capitol police that opened fire after warning her to not come close. Eye witness statements will always vary. It's easy to check who fired their service weapon.
Man, I can feel how worked up you are - please go away while adults are trying to have a conversation. Close the door, draw your shades tight and revel in yourself. But, I know you won't do it, instead you'll turn to the bonus page in your playbook and work yourself up some more. I should put you on ignore but then I'd miss all of your repetitive and amusing rhetoric.
trump is trump, nothing else.
No...the Roman Republic didn't end because of Caesar (it could have been Pompei or Brutus). And after Caesar was killed there was Octavian. Just because Caesar is gone doesn't mean the Republic is safe. We have a problem that's bigger than him....the complete collapse of our civic institutions, spurred on by the pandemic, and now culminating in elections and the occupation of the Capitol itself. If the leadership ignores it, we will all regret it. To thread this requires a leader of considerable character and ability....Biden will need to be more than Cicero.
This will be remembered as a dark dark day for our Republic. My fear is, short of strong intelligent leadership (including in the short term from Mike Pence), it's only the beginning.
Roman empire is not a good analogy, Caesar in effect made himself Emperor (or Caesar), when it had been ruled by the senate. It was hundreds of years before it finally expired (the Eastern Empire being last after it split).No...the Roman Republic didn't end because of Caesar (it could have been Pompei or Brutus). And after Caesar was killed there was Octavian (and Anthony). Just because Caesar is gone doesn't mean the Republic is safe. We have a problem that's bigger than him....the complete collapse of our civic institutions, spurred on by the pandemic, and now culminating in elections and the occupation of the Capitol itself. If the leadership ignores it, we will all regret it. To thread this requires a leader of considerable character and ability....Biden will need to be more than Cicero.
This will be remembered as a dark dark day for our Republic. My fear is, short of strong intelligent leadership (including in the short term from Mike Pence), it's only the beginning.
Roman empire is not a good analogy, Caesar in effect made himself Emperor (or Caesar), when it had been ruled by the senate. It was hundreds of years before it finally expired (the Eastern Empire being last after it split).
I don't think Trump is really that big a deal. McCarthy caused untold damage for a brief period of time, was rejected, got dejected and died shortly thereafter. I don't think Trump's spawn can carry on without him, they've never had to do anything to get ahead except hang onto T's coat tails. He's going to huff and puff and blow himself up - this is the worst that could have happened to him at this moment losing him most Rs in Congress, with losing GA on his watch too. He's a busted flush.
The R's were written off in 2008 when Obama swept to power and the D's took both houses ... that lasted all of 2 years.
In an attempt at some levity after today, how many of us forgot about COVID for the day?!?
I think the city intentionally handled the BLM protests with kiddie gloves. White House outer perimeter was certainly stressed but never breached. Plenty of resources available. Secret Service plays by a different set of rules when it comes to the protection/defense of the White House. They don't always get it right though (plenty of examples of White House perimeter breaches).I agree with your post but the city didn't exactly handle the BLM protests well. Remember the protestors did storm the White House grounds and burned down that church outside it....federal law enforcement had to be called in. After the Trump speech, Republicans leaving the speech were attacked by the leftist protestors. And the mayor encouraged the protests.....law enforcement was present and certain city blocks (like the Capitol grounds) were barricaded, but they were also under orders to not interfere with the protests and in fairness some of the Rs were victims of that violence. Then again a few weeks ago there was violence on the streets with the right and left attacking each other.
You are certainly entertaining - nice job.Always happy to entertain. FYI, it isn’t possible to have an adult conversation with a magat.
Just great....to end the day the Ds and the Rs on the house floor almost end in a fist fight. If you guys think this is just about Trump, you are kidding yourselves. The rot runs deep.
Just great....to end the day the Ds and the Rs on the house floor almost end in a fist fight. If you guys think this is just about Trump, you are kidding yourselves. The rot runs deep.
I was just saying trump will trump no matter what glorious virtues his cult project upon him and then extol him for. He is in it for himself like always. And yes, dark day with more to come. These gullible QAnon followers will not go quietly into the night. I still believe "Q" is Putin's brainchild.No...the Roman Republic didn't end because of Caesar (it could have been Pompei or Brutus). And after Caesar was killed there was Octavian (and Anthony). Just because Caesar is gone doesn't mean the Republic is safe. We have a problem that's bigger than him....the complete collapse of our civic institutions, spurred on by the pandemic, and now culminating in elections and the occupation of the Capitol itself. If the leadership ignores it, we will all regret it. To thread this requires a leader of considerable character and ability....Biden will need to be more than Cicero.
This will be remembered as a dark dark day for our Republic. My fear is, short of strong intelligent leadership (including in the short term from Mike Pence), it's only the beginning.
Not in the least someone I know just died from it. At first I knew no one that had it. That list is now two dozen and growing quicker each day. The hypocrisy of trump supporters is astounding.In an attempt at some levity after today, how many of us forgot about COVID for the day?!?