I don’t care why the Warsaw ghetto uprising happened, it was wrong of the jews to riot against the Nazis. The reason for the violence doesn’t matter. Same with Nat Turner. These minorities just need to pipe down. It’s not so bad, even if law enforcement keeps depriving them of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness because of their skin color and national origin.
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I don’t care why the Warsaw ghetto uprising happened, it was wrong of the jews to riot against the Nazis. The reason for the violence doesn’t matter. Same with Nat Turner. These minorities just need to pipe down. It’s not so bad, even if law enforcement keeps depriving them of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness because of their skin color and national origin.
What you are essentially saying our civic society is over....people are justified going into residences at night at waking them up, burning businesses, attacking dinners and politicians to confront them about issues, using violence so long as the cause is justified. People will disagree with what is justified. Your prescription is nothing less than a call for civil war.
Why don’t you tell us abut the term paper you wrote about it? I would have loved to have seen the two of you debate why masks don’t work. Your argument would have been “yep, I agree with Ted, even if his dad killed JFK.”
You should really understand the meaning of words and how they apply to you before you go throwing them around frivolously.
Oh, and thanks for helping me kill time while I'm waiting in the repair lounge of the dealership.
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Desert Hound
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That fact that you think I said or even implied it was the Dems fault rioters did what they did the other day says a lot about your "intellect".
I don’t expect bigots to accept that they are, my only goal is to mock them for sport and the enjoyment of non-racists.
BTW, can you go through one more time how BLM protesters are partly at fault a bunch of white supremacists invading the US Capitol as part of an attempted coup? I’m not following this “non-bigoted” theory. Did they get too uppity a while back after democratic government didn’t do enough to put them back in their place, so it was obviously time to overthrow the government?
Desert Hound
DA
In case anyone wants to go down memory lane.
By the way these boards are interesting.
During the summer months there was a certain group of people making excuses for the summer riots. Another group here condemned the riots.
Today the group that made excuses over the summer now are mad about the riots. The people who were mad about the riots in the summer are also mad about the riot a couple of days ago.
Interesting how that works.
thefederalist.com
By the way these boards are interesting.
During the summer months there was a certain group of people making excuses for the summer riots. Another group here condemned the riots.
Today the group that made excuses over the summer now are mad about the riots. The people who were mad about the riots in the summer are also mad about the riot a couple of days ago.
Interesting how that works.
28 Times Media And Democrats Excused Violence By Left-Wing Activists
After excusing and ignoring riots from leftists, Democrats and their allies in the media are ready to condemn riots now that the turmoil has shifted.
thefederalist.com
I think you're reaching a bit here. My point is that you cannot honestly compare the BLM protests with what happened at the capital. They are different. Nowhere have I justified violence, looting, etc. Let me put it this way. It's incredibly easy for me to be empathetic towards people who deal with racism on a daily basis, people who have suffered for 100s of years. On the other hand, I struggle to do that with MAGA/Qanon folks. That's not to say I have zero empathy for them, but rather, there's just this huge gap between the two groups.
But, you raise a good point. Perhaps, we've never had a civic society. Perhaps it's always been smoke and mirrors. It's hard for something to be over that never existed. I mean when there's a clear discrepancy in police enforcement between the event on Wednesday versus many of the BLM protests, that's pretty telling. Civics kind of goes out the window when you fear you're going be shot by every police officer that walks by.
Reagan, like Trump, is just a symptom. An even bigger symptom was Bill Clinton. Their policies hurried this along but they are just riding certain trends in American society that unfolded since Vietnam/Great Society:
1. Foreign Wars. The Cold War and Reagan managed to unite the right and the centrist left in favor of what the left calls the "military-industrial" complex. When it ended, these jobs began to collapse (see the eroding of the aircraft industry in California). But Republicans and Democrats continued to push nation building abroad which tired the American people of foreign wars.
2. Elitism. In the 50s society was a lot more mobile (at least for whites) and it was common to see a person build an industry by their bootstraps or a man to marry a secretary from another class. It's fiction, but in "Mad Men", Peggy Olsen graduates from secretarial school....now her job requires a top 20 college degree. Women began to enter the work force, and women (not wanting to throw away their effort at work) typically want to marry either someone of the same or similar status. Elites began to marry other elites, the college rat race began as colleges became gatekeepers, a society which valued technocratic experts arose. It's more likely a white woman graduating from an Ivy League school will marry an African American male graduating from such school than a white man rural farmer in Kansas. The elites have a vested interest in protecting this meritocrisy for themselves (which is why so many of us are in the youth soccer pay to play/college rat race).
3. Globalism. The elites have more in common with other elites in Hong Kong, Paris, or Moscow than a farmer in Iowa. Their concerns (on immigration, trade, monetary policy, war) are globalist. The D alliance on immigration, for example, is the rich which wants the cheap labor, and D politicians which want the vote, and the newcomers that want to bring over more friends and family or secure those who are already here. Those concerns often cut against the concerts of people lower on the economic totem pole. As society becomes more automated as well, there will be less well paying jobs at the bottom end and the pie has begun to shrink everywhere in the new globalist economy.
4. The Great Society. On the lower end of the government spectrum, the social safety net (separate and apart from arguments as to its necessity and proper structure) caused the weakening of family structures and the work ethic. It makes more rational sense for a woman with kids on welfare to go it alone than to share that pie with a husband who might be a drag on the family and throw away the money.
5. Racism. I'm a 3x minority....I don't believe America is "systemically racist"....I ascribed to the belief that everyone, regardless of skin color, is a little bit racist. But I also think there's racism out there, and it's often times the easiest reason for people to see why their lives may be in the crapper (rather than all the more complicated economic and societal stuff). And the history of America from it's founding through the civil rights movement was overwhelmingly concerned with racism and race.
6. The Collapse of Institutions. Back in Reagan's time, religion was the corner stone of the Reagan coalition. Trump just gives religion lip service, and the Mormons are uncomfortable with this new aggressive stance taken by the Republican Party. The churches, particularly the main line institutions, have collapsed. On the left, it's been replaced with wokeism/post-modernism. Other institutions as well have collapsed and been discredited. The pandemic for example has trashed the reputation of our health experts and teachers among a large segment of the population. The police are in disrepute among certain elements of the left. The press has trashed itself, and the tech industry is going down the way with it. The things which held us together are no longer there.
7. The Internet. Smashed gatekeepers to information (something which causes rage among the elites), and anonymity has led to inflammatory ways of dealing with each other.
All this to say, Trump's the dam, not the river....he's a symptom....things are going to get worse short of inspired leadership. The D reactions haven't exactly filled me with confidence, and frankly I'm not sure Biden is up to it...it would require a Lincolnesque figure. Hope I'm wrong.
whatithink
GOLD
Yeah, but of course the Jewish ghettos existed in Europe long before the Nazis. Europe has a long history of pogroms against the Jews, instigated to distract or just simply by local lords (& such) to eliminate their debts.
What was it the Nazis at Charlottesville were chanting, "Jews will not replace us". This is now, in the USA.
In case anyone wants to go down memory lane.
By the way these boards are interesting.
During the summer months there was a certain group of people making excuses for the summer riots. Another group here condemned the riots.
Today the group that made excuses over the summer now are mad about the riots. The people who were mad about the riots in the summer are also mad about the riot a couple of days ago.
28 Times Media And Democrats Excused Violence By Left-Wing Activists
After excusing and ignoring riots from leftists, Democrats and their allies in the media are ready to condemn riots now that the turmoil has shifted.
Yes, we get it. The magat crowd had already made quite clear that that they/you believe staging a coup yo overthrow the government of the U.S. at the direction of your quickly deflating orange baboon balloon(man) isn’t really so bad because just look at those uppity black people who got tired of being persecuted and being told by your kind to get over it.
I should not have inquired about Karen’s HS term paper earlier. My bad everyone.
Just when you thought it was BLM’s fault that white supremacists tried to overthrow democracy, Karen busts out with a theory that it’s mostly Bill Clinton’s fault. Let’s place blame anywhere other than whete it squarely belongs, Trumpy McFrumpy and his sad little band of red-hatted has beens.
Several of the Capitol trespassers were wearing t-shirts with the logo 6MWE. Look it up.
Not my theory at all. Again you have to mischaracterize others arguments to make your arguments sound even remotely plausible.
I think your problem is that all your heavy breathing has fogged up your mirror which makes you incapable of seeing yourself in it.
Thanks for posting this. I won't try to convince you otherwise, but I think this explains why our viewpoints are different here. I think systemic racism is alive and well in our country.
UR dence. Quit spitting out ideological nonsense. Your pol pot approach to debate is hilarious. You've read what I've stated. Tear yourself away from your leaflets and think for yourself.
Completely true. Open season for the FBI. Plenty of video and still shots available for those that are charged with criminal trespass. A creative prosecutor may be able to spice things up with a hate crime charge.
Thanks for that and I appreciate your point of view. If you are a fellow PoC I totally get why it can sometimes feel that way. I've had the feeling myself at various times in my life. Those feelings are very real, and I appreciate them.
If you are not, part of your feeling is explained by 6.