I get all my info from Downtrend.com. That's why I'm smart, but incredibly ill-informed. Dude, wake up and read facts presented to you from legitimate sources. Ya' know, like that book learnin' and stuff that we respected back when America was great and before we turned into a nation of dumbshits who don't know anything.
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You do not own/run a business from what I see in the post.....
First off No business owner would stipulate what you've just posted.
Secondly, any business owner will state that to operate properly you must first consider Profit and Loss.
Expenditures ( Employee costs are the first and primary consideration ), a true Business owner will
pay his employees a fair wage....but only as much as he absolutely has too..
You have presented an employee based argument for wages you deem fair, not from the employers
side....
Why would you arbitrarily list $ 65,000 to $ 300,000 and in the same paragraph list $ 15.00 as a base wage ?
$ 15.00 an hour is approximately $ 28,800 a year gross.. barely enough to reside on.
$ 65,000 a year is approximately $ 33.80 an hour. Not a fantastic wage, but livable.
$ 300,000 a year is approximately $ 151.51 an hour, now that's a wage to cackle about. But you better work your
damn ass off if you want me to sign those checks.
I'm not even going to explain to you the numbers needed to pay a wage in the third tier, as you should be quite clear on
risks to gain running a Private business in California in that bracket.
If you perhaps do run a business, you need some basic counseling on numbers....
Not many, just 6, plus me. Lion, it's not too late for you and Fathead Joe to educate yourself from the same sources that educated oh, I don't know, like Eisenhower and Reagan and Nixon, and come to some different opinions about things.
Bruddah IZ
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That wasn't advice. That was just a fact.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Sin doesn't exist. Remember?
You exposed your stupidity with the above post, when you want to talk to Fishermen it's a good idea to at least
understand the tools they use to ply their trade.
A. What is a Fishing pole.
B. What is a Fish.
C. What do I need to do to make the pole and fish come together.
Bruddah IZ
DA
I'm a little surprised all the Dr. Pritchett's of the world aren't barking Equal Opportunity or Inequality.
Bruddah IZ
DA
So you think we should pay dumb shits $15 an hour?
You lost me with the line about paying employees only what "he absolutely has to." I don't buy it and I'm enriched (in a variety of ways) by taking a different view. It's about productivity and stability and continuity. I want my skilled labor with extensive customer contact to operate at a high level.
Yes, I think we should. I don't buy the argument that it's counter-productive to business. My Repyblican friends were all so quick to say, upon Obama's election, " taxes too high, none of my kids will grow up in California." But who just left? Nestle, the worst corporation in the world. Seems like most are staying. And as somebody else on here said, if you can't hack it here because of labor protection, etc., then move to Oklahoma or somewhere.
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We can play all day, but it will cut into your pay.
You do not own a Business, but if you wish to Lie....That's Ok.
Enjoy your summer time on this forum before you go back to the Liberal Educational Prison you are attending....
Just remember, I don't pull punches nor do any of the other members both Liberal and Conservative......
Bruddah IZ
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So does McDonalds.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Exactly, people don't need a living wage. They need luggage and a U-haul.
I am not lying. You can't handle someone who views these things more expansively, can you, Mr. Snowflake? Let me show you how to make more money. And I have 3 sons (24, 12 and 10) and I am also in favor of high inheritance taxes. It's not their money! And look what inherited wealth does to our youth and our nation's ability to create equal opportunities in business and elsewhere. All the money stays at the top and it's not earned. I own a business. My own business. True story, Snowflake.
Bruddah IZ
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The money always stays at the top. The same people don't stay at the top with that money. Equal Opportunity is grand isn't it?
The same people don't stay at the top? I think they do, give or take the real disruptive pioneers like tech and other entrepreneurs. I thought most wealth now is inherited.
Bruddah IZ
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How can you be for meritocracy and support min wage mandates? You expect your boys to earn their keep. Why not everyone else?
Because unskilled labor has zero bargaining power and I don't admire the labor practices of places like China where people work for $1/day. We are a wealthier nation who can afford to do better, with working conditions, wages, etc. So yes, I think those people that can't really cut it need a baseline salary, and that salary should be enough to not live in squalor.
Skilled labor is one thing.
Unskilled entry level, first time, minimum wage earners is another....