ODP in California

Not a criticism....perhaps just an indicator? My DDs previous coach from several years ago, who is a YNT scout, commented (probably around 2017/18) that ODP didn't carry as much weight as it once did. Of course, this was when DA had a stranglehold on those selected to attend YNT camps. Again, my own kid was a part of the ODP process for three years, and outside of some events being canceled due to COVID, it was a very positive experience.
 
Not a criticism....perhaps just an indicator? My DDs previous coach from several years ago, who is a YNT scout, commented (probably around 2017/18) that ODP didn't carry as much weight as it once did. Of course, this was when DA had a stranglehold on those selected to attend YNT camps. Again, my own kid was a part of the ODP process for three years, and outside of some events being canceled due to COVID, it was a very positive experience.
I think it is/can be a positive experience.

It just hasn't carried much weight now for a number of years if we are honest.
 
Cal South did not take 2010 teams (boys or girls) to the ODP championships in Mesa. Only teams for the 05 - 09 age groups traveled (10 teams).

Thanks for the info, but I was talking more about the pool selection, and less so about attending the tournament. Surprised to not see players from familiar clubs and/or high level players that play locally.
 
It carried a lot of weight and was a lot of fun for those that made the teams and traveled to AZ and then on to inter regionals in FL. Then the DA ran a wrecking ball through girls youth soccer and changed all of that. Thank you US Soccer.
 
It carried a lot of weight and was a lot of fun for those that made the teams and traveled to AZ and then on to inter regionals in FL. Then the DA ran a wrecking ball through girls youth soccer and changed all of that. Thank you US Soccer.
ODP was flawed prior to that.
 
ODP was flawed prior to that.
The one ODP flaw I noticed back in 2017 was the selection process. The fact they missed on my goat and selected someone else's goat will haunt the selectors forever......lol and I am 99% joking. It would be funny and cool if my dd becomes the greatest of all time and was never selected to anything.
 
The one ODP flaw I noticed back in 2017 was the selection process. The fact they missed on my goat and selected someone else's goat will haunt the selectors forever......lol and I am 99% joking. It would be funny and cool if my dd becomes the greatest of all time and was never selected to anything.

You don't think that kids having to pay an extra 5k to travel to ODP showcases, regionals, nationals isn't a flaw. Think about all the kids that could not attend due to lack of resources. We were lucky that our kid got to attend two regionals and two national camps but there weren't too many YNT coaches in attendance and those that were didn't seem to be actively engaged in scouting.

I do agree however, that the GDA had a strong hold on girls soccer for a couple of years and they pulled a lot from those platforms.
 
You don't think that kids having to pay an extra 5k to travel to ODP showcases, regionals, nationals isn't a flaw. Think about all the kids that could not attend due to lack of resources. We were lucky that our kid got to attend two regionals and two national camps but there weren't too many YNT coaches in attendance and those that were didn't seem to be actively engaged in scouting.

I do agree however, that the GDA had a strong hold on girls soccer for a couple of years and they pulled a lot from those platforms.
Anything that cost too much money is a big flaw. We didn't get to experience that financial flaw because she was not picked to pay to play that year. GDA was double or triple the cost to attend all the festivities. $10K-$15K a year bro just to participate. Basically, if you're a single mom making $60,000 a year, you need to cough up 25% of gross income in order for your player to play soccer at high level and travel in style. Like some have said, you can always ask for help for a free handout or full ride scholarship.
 
I stand corrected.

That said over the years I have not seen much interest by ECNL girls to play ODP in AZ. They are rather busy with HS games/practice.

What I have seen are the ECNL girls not playing HS soccer are the ones that may do ODP.
So unless this year was different, the vast majority of any of the HS age rosters for AZ ODP did not have much in the way of ECNL girls playing.

My Dd said 100% of the 2006 team this year, play both ODP and HS.
 
ODP was flawed prior to that.
Never said it wasn’t flawed- the selection process was very flawed and often unfair but so is the YNT selection process. if you have tracked the YNT selectees now into college, several of them are not playing out like expected and others never selected are rising to the top. It would be curious to compare the ODP players verses the YNT players at the college level
 
Never said it wasn’t flawed- the selection process was very flawed and often unfair but so is the YNT selection process. if you have tracked the YNT selectees now into college, several of them are not playing out like expected and others never selected are rising to the top. It would be curious to compare the ODP players verses the YNT players at the college level
I would expect to find very similar results. The variable is age. As kids get older their physical and chemical make up change. You see so many kids dominate at the younger ages but as they get older they become quite average and some who were average at the younger ages grow up to become dominant.

All selection processes have their flaws, that’s because the selection process is subjective.
 
Never said it wasn’t flawed- the selection process was very flawed and often unfair but so is the YNT selection process. if you have tracked the YNT selectees now into college, several of them are not playing out like expected and others never selected are rising to the top. It would be curious to compare the ODP players verses the YNT players at the college level
I know a few players from back in 2017 that quit soccer already ((torn ACL, boy friend, other sports, too much soccer non stop 24/7)) and some just lost their speed. I know a few players that never made any list ever, but made the U18 YNVT ((Our Country's Virtual Team)). I was sold by Doc that my dd was shooting for the U14 Youth National Team back in 2017. I found out it was actually just snake oil thrown in my face and I get that now. I rubbed it all out early and saw the TRUTH.. Oh boy, don;t we all need some snake oil squirted in our eyes? A little snake oil will make any man better.

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that’s because the selection process is subjective.
100%. Plus I would also add that the selection process is conditional. You must obey and follow what US Soccer say's you have to do, to be in their subjective selection process. I honestly wish all the players the best of luck and i respect their decision, and I mean that. We all make our own choices and we must live them.
 
I find it funny they still call it ODP, been that way for decades

Men haven’t qualified for the Olympics since 2008.
 
Just read the list of names for the ODP NTC in Florida for next weekend… Six age groups attending (2004–2009)… Only one girl from Southern California was invited to attend.
 
A quick glance at the girls list tells you all you need to know... No players from SD Surf? ODP is a joke.
 
how can there not be one girl from California in the entire ODP program? That's not possible. I didnt see any CA's at any year.
There are 4 girls from California on the 2005 ODP team going to NTC(two from the south, two from the north). My daughter didn't advance to National Training, losing out to two other keepers when she traveled to Florida in November. One thing I noticed is both those keepers were the same ODP NTC choices from 2019/2020. These choices are the final team chosen from all four regions in the country.

The boys side had even more choices.

CS is Cal South, CN is Cal North
 
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