ODP was flawed prior to that.
ODP in California
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The one ODP flaw I noticed back in 2017 was the selection process. The fact they missed on my goat and selected someone else's goat will haunt the selectors forever......lol and I am 99% joking. It would be funny and cool if my dd becomes the greatest of all time and was never selected to anything.
SoccerJones
SILVER
You don't think that kids having to pay an extra 5k to travel to ODP showcases, regionals, nationals isn't a flaw. Think about all the kids that could not attend due to lack of resources. We were lucky that our kid got to attend two regionals and two national camps but there weren't too many YNT coaches in attendance and those that were didn't seem to be actively engaged in scouting.
I do agree however, that the GDA had a strong hold on girls soccer for a couple of years and they pulled a lot from those platforms.
Anything that cost too much money is a big flaw. We didn't get to experience that financial flaw because she was not picked to pay to play that year. GDA was double or triple the cost to attend all the festivities. $10K-$15K a year bro just to participate. Basically, if you're a single mom making $60,000 a year, you need to cough up 25% of gross income in order for your player to play soccer at high level and travel in style. Like some have said, you can always ask for help for a free handout or full ride scholarship.
soccermail2020
SILVER
That is inaccurate. Because it is a “Olympic program” they are allowed to do both.
soccermail2020
SILVER
My Dd said 100% of the 2006 team this year, play both ODP and HS.
Never said it wasn’t flawed- the selection process was very flawed and often unfair but so is the YNT selection process. if you have tracked the YNT selectees now into college, several of them are not playing out like expected and others never selected are rising to the top. It would be curious to compare the ODP players verses the YNT players at the college level
I would expect to find very similar results. The variable is age. As kids get older their physical and chemical make up change. You see so many kids dominate at the younger ages but as they get older they become quite average and some who were average at the younger ages grow up to become dominant.
All selection processes have their flaws, that’s because the selection process is subjective.
I know a few players from back in 2017 that quit soccer already ((torn ACL, boy friend, other sports, too much soccer non stop 24/7)) and some just lost their speed. I know a few players that never made any list ever, but made the U18 YNVT ((Our Country's Virtual Team)). I was sold by Doc that my dd was shooting for the U14 Youth National Team back in 2017. I found out it was actually just snake oil thrown in my face and I get that now. I rubbed it all out early and saw the TRUTH.. Oh boy, don;t we all need some snake oil squirted in our eyes? A little snake oil will make any man better.
100%. Plus I would also add that the selection process is conditional. You must obey and follow what US Soccer say's you have to do, to be in their subjective selection process. I honestly wish all the players the best of luck and i respect their decision, and I mean that. We all make our own choices and we must live them.
how can there not be one girl from California in the entire ODP program? That's not possible. I didnt see any CA's at any year.
doesn’t surf have their own ODP type thing with all their affiliates countrywide ?
There are 4 girls from California on the 2005 ODP team going to NTC(two from the south, two from the north). My daughter didn't advance to National Training, losing out to two other keepers when she traveled to Florida in November. One thing I noticed is both those keepers were the same ODP NTC choices from 2019/2020. These choices are the final team chosen from all four regions in the country.
The boys side had even more choices.
CS is Cal South, CN is Cal North
GalaxyGirls
BRONZE
What do you mean final..like they don't reevaluate year to year?
Typically they do but Covid may have inhibited future scouting and player selection. Therefore it seems they did not change the list they were working from.
Every State has a ODP team at each age bracket, with California having 2 (Cal North and Cal South, or CN and CS). So 18 kids are chosen. They then take 12-13 states from 4 different regions and make 4 regional teams. This is chosen from a camp for each region over 4 days.
When my daughter went to the camp it was in Ojai and she was there with about 16 other CS girls, and a total of about 130 girls, including 13 other goalkeepers, from West region States like Utah, Washington, Arizona, etc. There is also East, South, and Midwest camps. Then one team is chosen for each of those regions with 18 girls, giving you 4 teams of 18 players. These 72 players went to Florida just before Thanksgiving, and played games and trained. They then chose a final team of 20-24 girls that is going to the ODP National Training Center.
They also have Region Championships which was just held in Arizona where Cal South beat Utah in the finals to win 2005 age bracket. My daughter played games 1,3,5, which included the finals. First three games every field player was getting time, but semi's and finals saw a shorter bench.
Yes the team is reevaluated year to year. There are some nuances to that, of course.
Buzz Cook
BRONZE
Re: the ‘05 girls…only one from Cal Sourh (CS)… Samantha Sanchez plays for MVLA in the bay area…and is incorrectly noted as being from Cal South. Again, my original point is that you have six age groups heading to Florida for the ODP NTC, and there’s only one girl from Southern California….period. If I counted correctly there’s damn near 20 from Florida. Are you telling me that’s the disparity between talent found in both regions? Apparently somebody from Cal South pissed people off…or it really makes you wonder who the hell is doing the evaluating?
MicPaPa
GOLD
I'm telling you ODP is a joke.