Nor Cal Return to Play

EOTL said:
I’m not surprised that SoCal soccer magats hate pediatricians so much given how much they hate teachers, and also how much pediatricians disagree with Jenny McCarthy as it relates to children’s health.

Who will they hate next, I mean besides those loser sucker veterans who were captured or killed?
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Naawwww.....we just hate pompous asshats who have nothing to do in life but try to ridicule and bully others because they have varying viewpoints.

Look at Husker, we don’t really agree but we can have honest dialogue without petty name calling g.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Naawwww.....we just hate pompous asshats who have nothing to do in life but try to ridicule and bully others because they have varying viewpoints.

Look at Husker, we don’t really agree but we can have honest dialogue without petty name calling g.
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Husker seems like a smart guy, although maybe too nice. As I’ve said before, playing nice with trumpanzees is ineffective. They love to bully and mock others. That’s all they know, so that’s what they get.

If you’re going to fight the American Association of Pediatrics in favor of the likes of Jenny McCarthy, @crush and someone who thinks injecting bleach into to your lungs makes a lot of sense as a cure for Covid, the least you can do is own it.
 
EOTL said:
I see. So you want our country to disregard the advice of the foremost authority on children’s health because you decided they are “overprotective”? In other words, you’re just going to ignore the most authoritative advice on an issue for no other reason than you don’t want to follow it.

There are many studies that verify that covid is spread outdoors. They almost uniformly say that it is spread at a much lower rate than indoors, which trumpanzees use to misrepresent that it doesn’t spread outdoors. You can google just as well as anyone else, but deny reality and truth much more readily than most. Enjoy the mask wearing in NorCal!
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Did you actually read the AAP advice?

It's all about indoor sports, carpools, shared dining, and travel. You know, the high risk things.

Outdoor team sports aren't even on their radar.
 
EOTL said:
I’m the bartender now? I thought I was the homeless guy hanging out at the public library in Seattle with no kids.

I wasn’t wrong Cuomo, not even close. In hindsight, he made a wrong decision about whether to send people in the hospital who didn’t need to be there and lived in rest homes back because he was worried that NYC hospitals would be overwhelmed if they stayed, and he over-estimated the abilities of most rest homes to keep them safe. As it turned out, he was wrong about the hospitals being overwhelmed, but that was hardly a given, and his best guess was reasonable even with the benefit of hindsight given that Covid did in fact overwhelm a lot of hospitals in other regions later on. His wrong decision was not unreasonable at the time given that no one knew at the time how dangerous it was, how it was spread (remember everyone disinfecting surfaced and door knobs?), or even that younger people were low risk of death. I’ve never claimed that the decision wad wrong with the benefit of hindsight, only that it wasn’t unreasonable at the time given the lack of knowledge about Covid, something which was unquestionably the fault of the magat-in-chief, who told y’all that injecting bleach in your lungs and sunshine up your ass would clear everything up straightaway. Trumpanzees keep pointing to Cuomo’s wrong, but not unreasonable, decision at the time because that’s better than discussing their hero Cadet Bonespurs claiming: (1) only 12 people have covid and soon it will be zero; (2) don’t wear masks; (3) it will go away like a miracle when the weather warms up; (4) it’s a hoax; (5) injecting bleach into your lungs will take care of it, as will shooting sunshine up your ass; (6) it will all disappear after the election; (7) there will be a vaccine by October; (8) there will be a vaccine by the election; (9) it’s all Obama’s fault.

You’re doing the classic magat thing, which is to find some flaw in someone that is irrelevant to the issue as a distraction. Did Cuomo behave improperly with female staff? Probably, but that has nothing to do with covid, let alone the reason I defended him. Did Cuomo knowingly attribute people dying of covid in rest homes to hospitals? Maybe, but we don’t know that yet. Regardless, it still doesn’t make his initial decision to send old people who didn’t need to be in the hospital at the time back to nursing homes given what was known about covid at the time. And more importantly, if he did that, it is not something I defended.

So is your kid going NWSL draft out of HS, or PSG?
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I know that you threw up just a little bit in the back of your mouth when you typed this up. And that you don't actually believe it. And that you had every intention of using periods and commas to make it easier to read.

I like your revisionist history take on this though and how you conveniently left out things like: Hospital Ship, Samaritan's Purse, Javits Center.

You are less bright than I thought if you think for one moment that Cuomo acted without deliberate political intent during all of this. You are probably right, he likely didn't know/think what he was doing was going to be so deadly. But, it was and it was still his decision. Oops doesn't cut it. Besides, he had books to sell.

Andrew Cuomo plays on the same team as your boy djt. If anything, he's a starter on the team with djt coming off the bench. He is a disgusting version of a man and a father. I feel sorry for his DDs.
 
dad4 said:
Did you actually read the AAP advice?

It's all about indoor sports, carpools, shared dining, and travel. You know, the high risk things.

Outdoor team sports aren't even on their radar.
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I’d say you can’t read, but the truth is that you simply refuse to listen to what they are saying. I’m sure you believe that when they say all athletes should wear masks, with exceptions like golf or tennis where it is easy to socially distance, they were referring to “indoor” golf and tennis.

Enjoy the mask wearing!
 
EOTL said:
I see. So you want our country to disregard the advice of the foremost authority on children’s health because you decided they are “overprotective”? In other words, you’re just going to ignore the most authoritative advice on an issue for no other reason than you don’t want to follow it.

There are many studies that verify that covid is spread outdoors. They almost uniformly say that it is spread at a much lower rate than indoors, which trumpanzees use to misrepresent that it doesn’t spread outdoors. You can google just as well as anyone else, but deny reality and truth much more readily than most. Enjoy the mask wearing in NorCal!
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NorCal soccer came out and said the rules are players must wear during games “as tolerated” and each individual player will decide what they can tolerate or not. My kid can’t tolerate it… No mask wearing for him!
 
Spfister said:
NorCal soccer came out and said the rules are players must wear during games “as tolerated” and each individual player will decide what they can tolerate or not. My kid can’t tolerate it… No mask wearing for him!
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As a ref, I would have no problem at all telling a coach he needs to sub out a player who claims to be in respiratory distress.

If people push it too far, the state or county will start revoking permits for failure to mask up. They’ve already done it in more than one place. It’s just how bureaucracies think.

We just barely got permission to play. This is not the time to put it at risk by getting cute with the rules.

Just wait. We will have to wear the masks for two months, then they’ll relax the rules again.
 
EOTL said:
Husker seems like a smart guy, although maybe too nice. As I’ve said before, playing nice with trumpanzees is ineffective. They love to bully and mock others. That’s all they know, so that’s what they get.

If you’re going to fight the American Association of Pediatrics in favor of the likes of Jenny McCarthy, @crush and someone who thinks injecting bleach into to your lungs makes a lot of sense as a cure for Covid, the least you can do is own it.
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I don't like McCarthy, or Trump, or you. Basically I don't like name-calling bullies who refuse to engage in open-minded, reasonable discourse.

I do know in the past 12 months there have probably been well over a million mask-less outdoor youth sport games in 48 other states and there has yet to be a single documented case of player to player on-field transmission, much less any single super spreader event.

Stay away from soccer fields until this all passes if it makes you feel better, but there is plenty of overwhelming evidence that contradicts your stance.
 
dad4 said:
As a ref, I would have no problem at all telling a coach he needs to sub out a player who claims to be in respiratory distress
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The first time my child had asthma on the field, I just remember hearing a chirping sound and thinking "is that my kid"? The worst time was when a parent from the other team ran out onto the field to stop the game. They were a nurse and got freaked out. I was on the other end of the field and didn't know it was happening. I thanked the parent and felt relieved that someone jumped in and stopped it. The ref had no idea because they don't know the signs.

Anyways, since my kid has asthma, I have no idea if she is more at risk from covid or playing with a mask. I'm taking her tomorrow hoping the game will be fine. If they required masks, she wouldn't be playing. I hope she isn't at risk of getting covid since it's worse for asthma sufferers. But she is a preteen,so I guess covid isn't dangerous. It is a weird feeling...soccer is too high maintenance right now.
 
dad4 said:
As a ref, I would have no problem at all telling a coach he needs to sub out a player who claims to be in respiratory distress.

If people push it too far, the state or county will start revoking permits for failure to mask up. They’ve already done it in more than one place. It’s just how bureaucracies think.

We just barely got permission to play. This is not the time to put it at risk by getting cute with the rules.

Just wait. We will have to wear the masks for two months, then they’ll relax the rules again.
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My son is a referee and Norcal referee group came out and said referees are not to be mask enforcing, it is not their job. The guidance is very vague says as tolerated. So they don’t need to wear masks. That said, players sitting out, coaches, spectators, etc. should all wear be wearing masks.
 
We have been practicing with masks so our players seem used to it for now. Players who can’t play with masks on can’t play. We will be playing with masks and will ask opposing teams ahead of time to confirm they will be also.
 
Jar!23 said:
We have been practicing with masks so our players seem used to it for now. Players who can’t play with masks on can’t play. We will be playing with masks and will ask opposing teams ahead of time to confirm they will be also.
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This is insane. Have fun playing in the Mask Only League ((MOL)). I want to see a health report in a few years to see what health issues these kids will get. I can;t believe I'm reading what I just read but it's March 2021, so anything can happen.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Will your team forfeit if the other team opts not to wear them?
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"Sally, you can't play the soccer game today. I'm so sorry but the other team are rule violators and they wont wear a dam mask." "But mommy, I want my halftime orange slices and then after game snacks." Is this what is truly happening to our youth? This is the most insane thing I've read so far in the last 12 months. Next season it will be the VOL league. VOL= Vaccine Only League. Basically, no one can live free. What a bunch of control freaks and yes, I'm talking to the parents.

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I’m just excited to see my child play her first league game in a year! From what I’m hearing each club has their own game day rules. I have no problem following their protocols.
Anyway-big day for NorCal! Excited to see some scores from around the bay!
 
A kid needing to pull down their masks to catch their breath is an entirely different situation than the entire team deciding not to wear masks for the game. I’m surprised this is an issue though, didn’t most cities/facilities require mask wearing to use their fields? Don’t most clubs around here practice with masks?
 
Spfister said:
My son is a referee and Norcal referee group came out and said referees are not to be mask enforcing, it is not their job. The guidance is very vague says as tolerated. So they don’t need to wear masks. That said, players sitting out, coaches, spectators, etc. should all wear be wearing masks.
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I just hope the county doesn't use it as an excuse to start shutting stuff down again.

It may be different if you are in Placer or Fresno. I am in SCC. We already had clubs lose field access over violations of the practice distance rules. I don't want us to lose the season over this.
 
dad4 said:
I just hope the county doesn't use it as an excuse to start shutting stuff down again.

It may be different if you are in Placer or Fresno. I am in SCC. We already had clubs lose field access over violations of the practice distance rules. I don't want us to lose the season over this.
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Nobody does Covid Theatre like SCC.
 
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