Nor Cal Return to Play
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I’m the bartender now? I thought I was the homeless guy hanging out at the public library in Seattle with no kids.
I wasn’t wrong Cuomo, not even close. In hindsight, he made a wrong decision about whether to send people in the hospital who didn’t need to be there and lived in rest homes back because he was worried that NYC hospitals would be overwhelmed if they stayed, and he over-estimated the abilities of most rest homes to keep them safe. As it turned out, he was wrong about the hospitals being overwhelmed, but that was hardly a given, and his best guess was reasonable even with the benefit of hindsight given that Covid did in fact overwhelm a lot of hospitals in other regions later on. His wrong decision was not unreasonable at the time given that no one knew at the time how dangerous it was, how it was spread (remember everyone disinfecting surfaced and door knobs?), or even that younger people were low risk of death. I’ve never claimed that the decision wad wrong with the benefit of hindsight, only that it wasn’t unreasonable at the time given the lack of knowledge about Covid, something which was unquestionably the fault of the magat-in-chief, who told y’all that injecting bleach in your lungs and sunshine up your ass would clear everything up straightaway. Trumpanzees keep pointing to Cuomo’s wrong, but not unreasonable, decision at the time because that’s better than discussing their hero Cadet Bonespurs claiming: (1) only 12 people have covid and soon it will be zero; (2) don’t wear masks; (3) it will go away like a miracle when the weather warms up; (4) it’s a hoax; (5) injecting bleach into your lungs will take care of it, as will shooting sunshine up your ass; (6) it will all disappear after the election; (7) there will be a vaccine by October; (8) there will be a vaccine by the election; (9) it’s all Obama’s fault.
You’re doing the classic magat thing, which is to find some flaw in someone that is irrelevant to the issue as a distraction. Did Cuomo behave improperly with female staff? Probably, but that has nothing to do with covid, let alone the reason I defended him. Did Cuomo knowingly attribute people dying of covid in rest homes to hospitals? Maybe, but we don’t know that yet. Regardless, it still doesn’t make his initial decision to send old people who didn’t need to be in the hospital at the time back to nursing homes given what was known about covid at the time. And more importantly, if he did that, it is not something I defended.
So is your kid going NWSL draft out of HS, or PSG?
Let me get this straight. The American Association of Pediatrics is wrong and just a bunch of idiots because the governor of NY made a bad decision? So therefore we should listen to Jenny McCarthy? Is that what you’re saying?
One more fun point. Conceivably it might make sense to let kids who have real health issues like asthma play without a mask while others continue to do so. The problem with that approach, as shown by the videos of one Karen after the next whining about fake health problems as they demand entry into Costcos all over the country, is that most of the people who complain are just lying trumpanzees who would gladly deprive everyone around them of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (mostly life) in exchange for not having to deal with the slight inconvenience of wearing a mask.
If your child has legit asthma and therefore cannot play because wearing a mask is unsafe, you should be upset at all the magaty Karens who ruined it for you.
If your child has legit asthma and therefore cannot play because wearing a mask is unsafe, you should be upset at all the magaty Karens who ruined it for you.
I see AAP as more overprotective than vehement. Nor are pediatricians experts in this case. The experts are the epidemiologists.
You’ve apparently forgotten the wave of right wing videos that would find an anti-mask GP or paramedic somewhere and pretend that he knew something about regional disease transmission. The rule then, as now, is that doctors are not qualified as epidemiologists.
If you have a link to a study showing outdoor transmission, post the link. It doesn’t have to be soccer. Any sport will do. A study in a non sports setting will do. The only thing I would find irrelevant is something like a bar or outdoor casino, where people are spending a long time talking very close to each other. If there is a peer reviewed study of outdoor transmission, I would genuinely find it useful.
Until then I see no reason to focus on tiny things, like on field masks, at the expense of big things, like overnight trips and restaurants.
Ok, that was interesting . The best part was your last question. The family today only worries about today EOTL. She is getting ready to play two games this weekend and hope she can help her team make Champions Playoffs in the hardest conference in ECNL. That's all we got for now.
I see. So you want our country to disregard the advice of the foremost authority on children’s health because you decided they are “overprotective”? In other words, you’re just going to ignore the most authoritative advice on an issue for no other reason than you don’t want to follow it.
There are many studies that verify that covid is spread outdoors. They almost uniformly say that it is spread at a much lower rate than indoors, which trumpanzees use to misrepresent that it doesn’t spread outdoors. You can google just as well as anyone else, but deny reality and truth much more readily than most. Enjoy the mask wearing in NorCal!
I’m not surprised that SoCal soccer magats hate pediatricians so much given how much they hate teachers, and also how much pediatricians disagree with Jenny McCarthy as it relates to children’s health.
Who will they hate next, I mean besides those loser sucker veterans who were captured or killed?
Who will they hate next, I mean besides those loser sucker veterans who were captured or killed?
Naawwww.....we just hate pompous asshats who have nothing to do in life but try to ridicule and bully others because they have varying viewpoints.
Look at Husker, we don’t really agree but we can have honest dialogue without petty name calling g.
Husker seems like a smart guy, although maybe too nice. As I’ve said before, playing nice with trumpanzees is ineffective. They love to bully and mock others. That’s all they know, so that’s what they get.
If you’re going to fight the American Association of Pediatrics in favor of the likes of Jenny McCarthy, @crush and someone who thinks injecting bleach into to your lungs makes a lot of sense as a cure for Covid, the least you can do is own it.
Did you actually read the AAP advice?
It's all about indoor sports, carpools, shared dining, and travel. You know, the high risk things.
Outdoor team sports aren't even on their radar.
I know that you threw up just a little bit in the back of your mouth when you typed this up. And that you don't actually believe it. And that you had every intention of using periods and commas to make it easier to read.
I like your revisionist history take on this though and how you conveniently left out things like: Hospital Ship, Samaritan's Purse, Javits Center.
You are less bright than I thought if you think for one moment that Cuomo acted without deliberate political intent during all of this. You are probably right, he likely didn't know/think what he was doing was going to be so deadly. But, it was and it was still his decision. Oops doesn't cut it. Besides, he had books to sell.
Andrew Cuomo plays on the same team as your boy djt. If anything, he's a starter on the team with djt coming off the bench. He is a disgusting version of a man and a father. I feel sorry for his DDs.
I’d say you can’t read, but the truth is that you simply refuse to listen to what they are saying. I’m sure you believe that when they say all athletes should wear masks, with exceptions like golf or tennis where it is easy to socially distance, they were referring to “indoor” golf and tennis.
Enjoy the mask wearing!
NorCal soccer came out and said the rules are players must wear during games “as tolerated” and each individual player will decide what they can tolerate or not. My kid can’t tolerate it… No mask wearing for him!
As a ref, I would have no problem at all telling a coach he needs to sub out a player who claims to be in respiratory distress.
If people push it too far, the state or county will start revoking permits for failure to mask up. They’ve already done it in more than one place. It’s just how bureaucracies think.
We just barely got permission to play. This is not the time to put it at risk by getting cute with the rules.
Just wait. We will have to wear the masks for two months, then they’ll relax the rules again.
I don't like McCarthy, or Trump, or you. Basically I don't like name-calling bullies who refuse to engage in open-minded, reasonable discourse.
I do know in the past 12 months there have probably been well over a million mask-less outdoor youth sport games in 48 other states and there has yet to be a single documented case of player to player on-field transmission, much less any single super spreader event.
Stay away from soccer fields until this all passes if it makes you feel better, but there is plenty of overwhelming evidence that contradicts your stance.
The first time my child had asthma on the field, I just remember hearing a chirping sound and thinking "is that my kid"? The worst time was when a parent from the other team ran out onto the field to stop the game. They were a nurse and got freaked out. I was on the other end of the field and didn't know it was happening. I thanked the parent and felt relieved that someone jumped in and stopped it. The ref had no idea because they don't know the signs.
Anyways, since my kid has asthma, I have no idea if she is more at risk from covid or playing with a mask. I'm taking her tomorrow hoping the game will be fine. If they required masks, she wouldn't be playing. I hope she isn't at risk of getting covid since it's worse for asthma sufferers. But she is a preteen,so I guess covid isn't dangerous. It is a weird feeling...soccer is too high maintenance right now.
My son is a referee and Norcal referee group came out and said referees are not to be mask enforcing, it is not their job. The guidance is very vague says as tolerated. So they don’t need to wear masks. That said, players sitting out, coaches, spectators, etc. should all wear be wearing masks.
This is insane. Have fun playing in the Mask Only League ((MOL)). I want to see a health report in a few years to see what health issues these kids will get. I can;t believe I'm reading what I just read but it's March 2021, so anything can happen.