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In the extremely unlikely event that someone can unearth on Google a potential death exercising with a mask on, here is my response:

1. No, they actually died “with a mask”, not “because of” a mask. It was really their comorbidity that killed them. Ha ha.
2. They should have stayed home knowing they were higher risk. They had it coming, in other words. More ha ha.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Because the MAJORITY of the US is not and has not encouraged or mandated young athletes wearing masks while engaging in our door sports activities and there is nothing scientific to prove it’s necessary. Therefore the AAP is only encouraging not mandating masks. If science proved they needed to, it would be mandated. Does that help?
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Thank you for explaining why 542,000 Americans have died from Covid so far.
 
Why are so many youth soccer parents living in fear (of wearing a mask)? Funny how all the magats mock people for “living in fear” by wearing masks, yet they’re bok bok chicken that they’re gonna die if they exercise while wearing one. Seriously, it’s pretty clear who’s really soft and pathetic.
 
EOTL said:
Why are so many youth soccer parents living in fear (of wearing a mask)? Funny how all the magats mock people for “living in fear” by wearing masks, yet they’re bok bok chicken that they’re gonna die if they exercise while wearing one. Seriously, it’s pretty clear who’s really soft and pathetic.
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This is my last day EOTL. You win bro. I have zero time for this anymore. I will finish with some blasts before i leave for good. When my wife says it's time to stop, then It's time. Threats are real. The City of Claremont is going way over board with mask BS. I went to meet old dear religous friend of mine at a hotel yesterday. I was in the lobby drinking alone and the head hotel dude went ape shit on me for having my mask below my lips so I can sip my drink. This dude was way over 300 lbs. No one around me. No one and dude told me to pull it up or get out. I told him he was a scared little baby and I will leave and take my business to Pomona, which I did.......
 
EOTL said:
Why are so many youth soccer parents living in fear (of wearing a mask)? Funny how all the magats mock people for “living in fear” by wearing masks, yet they’re bok bok chicken that they’re gonna die if they exercise while wearing one. Seriously, it’s pretty clear who’s really soft and pathetic.
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Who said we the parents are fearful of masks? We mask up everytime we're in public, and my kids wear them at school no issues- I'm strictly talking about wearing them during heavy exertion. All us parents were in masks during the game last week, no questions asked.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Haven't informal games been going on at parks for months now in SC County without masks? Having a point doesn't appear to be a consideration.
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Informal games, for all we knew in July, could have been adding to community transmission. There is no good data collection at an informal game, so those games didn't prove much.

However, we have data from the pro leagues. They have excellent data collection. Outdoor on field transmission is minor. Parties are major. Therefore, play your game, but keep it local and do not hold an indoor team party.
 
Glitterhater said:
Theatre much? I know that most on here are much smarter than me and have put you on ignore...but this one is funny.
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What I don't understand is why is everyone a trumpanzee?? That doesn't even make sense.
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Trump supporters I suppose. Loving and inclusive.
 
EOTL said:
Y’all are such whiners. It is seriously pathetic how sad people are who claim that wearing a mask during sports is too hard for them. If they don’t have underlying health problems, a kid can wear a mask. Can anyone identify a single person in the world who has ever died because they exercised wearing a mask? Just one? Anyone?
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Your drama is on point.

Wearing a mask during sports is dumb. It makes for great theater and people abide by the requirement so they can play. But it's still dumb. Dumb policy makers have a right to be dumb and dramatic. Have you watched a sporting event with masked players? It's sooo dumb and senseless. Even a trumpanzee could figure out that wearing a mask while playing a game outside is the dumbest thing in the world. COVID theatre for all to see. I'm surprised swimmers aren't wearing them.
 
Glitterhater said:
Who said we the parents are fearful of masks? We mask up everytime we're in public, and my kids wear them at school no issues- I'm strictly talking about wearing them during heavy exertion. All us parents were in masks during the game last week, no questions asked.
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Adult, rational, articulate conversation will not work.
 
crush said:
This is my last day EOTL. You win bro. I have zero time for this anymore. I will finish with some blasts before i leave for good. When my wife says it's time to stop, then It's time. Threats are real. The City of Claremont is going way over board with mask BS. I went to meet old dear religous friend of mine at a hotel yesterday. I was in the lobby drinking alone and the head hotel dude went ape shit on me for having my mask below my lips so I can sip my drink. This dude was way over 300 lbs. No one around me. No one and dude told me to pull it up or get out. I told him he was a scared little baby and I will leave and take my business to Pomona, which I did.......
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Guess what you guys, I got the most heartfelt apology from an adversary. I kid you not. My heart was so moved. Thank you kind sir. I wont share who it came from but it made my morning. I also got many positive PMs that are asking me stay longer. I spoke to my wife and she said it's ok because of the "I'm sorry and I was wrong about you" PM moved her as well. I will try again and I will work on being nicer too :)
 
happy9 said:
Your drama is on point.

Wearing a mask during sports is dumb. It makes for great theater and people abide by the requirement so they can play. But it's still dumb. Dumb policy makers have a right to be dumb and dramatic. Have you watched a sporting event with masked players? It's sooo dumb and senseless. Even a trumpanzee could figure out that wearing a mask while playing a game outside is the dumbest thing in the world. COVID theatre for all to see. I'm surprised swimmers aren't wearing them.
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I am 100% certain that the American Association of Pediatrics is right and you’re an idiot. This isn’t even debatable. The only thing that is debatable here is how stupid you must be to flat out deny the advice and recommendations of the foremost experts in the subject in the U.S. in favor of an organization that claims there was a tunnel between a pizza parlor and the WH to traffic children for Obama to eat.
 
EOTL said:
I am 100% certain that the American Association of Pediatrics is right and you’re an idiot. This isn’t even debatable. The only thing that is debatable here is how stupid you must be to flat out deny the advice and recommendations of the foremost experts in the subject in the U.S. in favor of an organization that claims there was a tunnel between a pizza parlor and the WH to traffic children for Obama to eat.
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Touchy, touchy. Relax, it's thursday.

You may go on bended knee to stuff like this but it's obvious that most/many will not. Common sense has a way of rising to the top. Why does the AAP not recommend masking for wrestling? Isn't that weird? Or competition cheer? Where is the consistency? Where is your link to a study conducted by anyone that proves masking on any field of play is an effective method to limit spread? I'll check back after lunch. If there is a data, I sincerely would like to see it.

As far as pizza parlors and tunnels - what are you talking about? Why do you always have to display such theatre?
 
EOTL said:
Hold on a second. So should we be listening to the American Association of Pediatrics (wear masks) or magat soccer parents (wearing masks is so dumb it is impossible to spread covid on a soccer field, the foremost organization for youth health in the US is a bunch of liars who don’t know what they’re talking about, everyone should listen to anonymous douches on a soccer website that youth are impervious to covid so long as they are on a soccer field, pediatric doctors are such sheep but anti-vaxxers are very wise to agree to whatever Jenny McCarthy says).
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My point is that the guidance is vague and doesn't give us anything concrete...."as tolerated", "athletes should be encouraged", "may not be necessary", "shown to be well tolerated", "may need to be removed"

For my kid, soccer just isn't that big of a deal. If masks are required, the game will be skipped and something else will take its place. Just takes a click of a button in teamsnap and a red X comes up. Super easy. No political statement is needed. No negativity is required.

The whole point in wearing a mask is to help the vulnerable people. Helping an elderly person get a shot scheduled and get to their appointment is much more effective than having your kid play soccer with a mask on.
 
I don’t think the masks on field are a big deal. We will wear them, and not go looking for excuses not to.

I also don’t get EOTL’s vehemence on this. The big transmission risks are the hotel, the team dinner, the carpool, the birthday party, and the sleepovers.

Let’s focus on those, and not waste energy worrying about an outdoor mask rule that does relatively little good and relatively little harm.
 
tjsoccer said:
My point is that the guidance is vague and doesn't give us anything concrete...."as tolerated", "athletes should be encouraged", "may not be necessary", "shown to be well tolerated", "may need to be removed"

For my kid, soccer just isn't that big of a deal. If masks are required, the game will be skipped and something else will take its place. Just takes a click of a button in teamsnap and a red X comes up. Super easy. No political statement is needed. No negativity is required.

The whole point in wearing a mask is to help the vulnerable people. Helping an elderly person get a shot scheduled and get to their appointment is much more effective than having your kid play soccer with a mask on.
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There is nothing vague about their recommendation to wear a mask during competitive sports. When you claim that it may not be necessary, you leave out the remainder of their advice in which they reference golf and tennis because they do not involve close contact, or (much to the complete obliteration of @happy9’s passive aggressive comment) swimming because that would actually be dangerous. Furthermore, when they refer to “shown to be well tolerated”, that isn’t even a caveat, that is just a polite way of saying the obvious that whiners who live in fear of wearing a mask during competitive sports are hypochondriac losers unless they have a health condition that might make it dangerous.

And yes, a mask may need to be removed if, in that one in a million chance someone is having a hard time breathing or, if as also specified bu the AAP, you’re playing in significant heat. Did you really expect the AAP to issue a bright line “you must always wear masks all the time even if you’re going to pass out?” That would be irresponsible and inappropriate because, as much as you would like to believe that there can be a one size fits all approach here, the nature of the pandemic does not allow for that.

The AAP laid out in great detail its position (wear masks) as well as the important exceptions. There is absolutely zero vagueness as it relates to youth soccer, you are only making up excuses to not follow them and encouraging others not to also.
 
dad4 said:
I don’t think the masks on field are a big deal. We will wear them, and not go looking for excuses not to.

I also don’t get EOTL’s vehemence on this. The big transmission risks are the hotel, the team dinner, the carpool, the birthday party, and the sleepovers.

Let’s focus on those, and not waste energy worrying about an outdoor mask rule that does relatively little good and relatively little harm.
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You mean you don’t get the American Association of Pediatrics’ vehemence on this? What I don’t get is how willing people are to simply deny the recommendations of the most knowledgeable, most respected, and most expert association on children’s health in the U.S. My feelings on this are not the least bit controversial. I’m just pointing out what the foremost experts in our country say we should do, and how crazy people are to flat out deny their advice in favor of people like @crush, who put his daughter in track to go pro after HS when she was 10 and refuses to get vaccinated because Jenny McCarthy tells him it’s not safe. It is absolutely incomprehensible how stupid these trumpanzees are.

This thread is particularly great in that the magats started mocking the idea of wearing masks before they realized that the AAP supports it. That left the trumpanzees with the choice of either doubling down against the advice of the foremost experts in the field, or admitting they are wrong. So, of course they choose the former, because they are constantly living in fear (of being wrong). This is how magats operate. They’d rather say bats**t crazy nonsense than admit they were wrong.
 
EOTL said:
You mean you don’t get the American Association of Pediatrics’ vehemence on this? What I don’t get is how willing people are to simply deny the recommendations of the most knowledgeable, most respected, and most expert association on children’s health in the U.S. My feelings on this are not the least bit controversial. I’m just pointing out what the foremost experts in our country say we should do, and how crazy people are to flat out deny their advice in favor of people like @crush, who put his daughter in track to go pro after HS when she was 10 and refuses to get vaccinated because Jenny McCarthy tells him it’s not safe. It is absolutely incomprehensible how stupid these trumpanzees are.

This thread is particularly great in that the magats started mocking the idea of wearing masks before they realized that the AAP supports it. That left the trumpanzees with the choice of either doubling down against the advice of the foremost experts in the field, or admitting they are wrong. So, of course they choose the former, because they are constantly living in fear (of being wrong). This is how magats operate. They’d rather say bats**t crazy nonsense than admit they were wrong.
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No....we just mock you!

#fishinabarrel
 
EOTL said:
I’m just pointing out what the foremost experts in our country say we should do, and how crazy people are to flat out deny their advice in favor of people like @crush, who put his daughter in track to go pro after HS when she was 10 and refuses to get vaccinated because Jenny McCarthy tells him it’s not safe. It is absolutely incomprehensible how stupid these trumpanzees are.

This thread is particularly great in that the magats started mocking the idea of wearing masks before they realized that the AAP supports it. That left the trumpanzees with the choice of either doubling down against the advice of the foremost experts in the field, or admitting they are wrong. So, of course they choose the former, because they are constantly living in fear (of being wrong). This is how magats operate. They’d rather say bats**t crazy nonsense than admit they were wrong.
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You write just like the man who threaten me the other day. I hope it's not you dude. Anyway, Crush and his wife have the right to, "just say no." My dd is free to do whatever she wants. You were 100% wrong about that leader in NY, right?
 
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