No Soccer - Bad / No School - Catastrophic!

[Justafan]

Nobody knows what the fuck you're babbling about.

You know what I meant, don’t skirt the issue homie. But in case you missed it, you know all that shit you talked about Blacks not taking responsibility for the situation their in, blaming everyone else for their problems, and expecting handouts?

Well sir, you just described Trumps base! So why don’t you talk the same shit about them? There, pretty simple.

 

[dad4]

Come on @outlaw I’m very disappointed with this response because I thought you knew me better than that pal; that argument is old and I have moved on. So, on to the next history lesson pal:

Vicente Guerrero (1783-1831)

Vicente Guerrero, the second President of Mexico, was born in the small village of Tixla in what is now the state of Guerrero. His parents were Pedro Guerrero, an African Mexican and Guadalupe Saldana, an Indian. Vicente was of humble origins. In his youth he worked as a mule driver on his...

www.blackpast.org

You might want to pick someone who took the presidency through elections instead of a coup.

I don’t call a someone “President” just because his soldiers killed the other guy’s soldiers.

 

[MacDre]

Sorry you didn’t get the gist of what I was saying. I’m saying that even though Somalia, Syria, ..... are considered shithole countries, it doesn’t mean all Somalis, Syrians .... are themselves shitholes. That is what Trump implied and meant. It also doesn’t mean the “cultures” of Somalia, Syria, are shitholes.

So the question to you is do you think all Somalis are shitholes and do you consider their “culture” a shitole culture?

I think Somalia is the motherland. Lot’s of history over by the Red Sea.

 

[MacDre]

You might want to pick someone who took the presidency through elections instead of a coup.

I don’t call a someone “President” just because his soldiers killed the other guy’s soldiers.

Yeah, but he abolished slavery too. Won Independence from Spain. And the state of Guerrero know for it’s Acapulco resorts is named after him. I also don’t think most in the US realizes that Mexico had an important black President before the USA.

 

[MacDre]

You might want to pick someone who took the presidency through elections instead of a coup.

I don’t call a someone “President” just because his soldiers killed the other guy’s soldiers.

By this definition, I guess we are still British and under the crown.

 

[Lionel Hutz]

I could have selected any value for the example, but I intentionally selected the value of R0 = 1.2 to demonstrate how the number of previous infections can make the difference between a stable situation where infections are not growing and a situation where there is accelerating growth. The point being, it was a mistake for CNN to leave this out of the consideration of why those states are doing well now. Again, it's not the only factor, but it is a significant one.

I figured that is why you chose a hypothetical R0 = 1.2. The opposite is also true if you do your calculations on the R0 for SARS-COV-2 (R0 = 2 - 3) and you see that population with a 20% having antibodies does little to slow the spread of diseases as the effective R0 = 1.6 - 2.4 well above 1 and requires other NPI to mitigate the spread (like social distancing, etc). One can see the R0 has risen in NYC as these measures are being relaxed. This is magnified further given the role "super spreaders"and how the R0 = 2 - 3 is the average across the population but is higher for these individuals.

I would say in Northeast that the various NPI had a more significant impact on the reduction of the R0 than the emergence of individuals who developed immunity to the virus given the higher N0 for this virus. Just my two cents.

 

[Fact]

Are you clowns are aware that those shows are classified as “entertainment” and NOT “news?”

What don't you understand by "he provides all the sources for his show so you can do your own fact checking"
You are a real zero with all your divisive propaganda. Are you sure you are a real lawyer or are you one of those Al Sharpton types. I call bs.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Obviously, from the color of his feathers, he must be a bigoted racist.

White meat

 

[Sheriff Joe]

You know what I meant, don’t skirt the issue homie. But in case you missed it, you know all that shit you talked about Blacks not taking responsibility for the situation their in, blaming everyone else for their problems, and expecting handouts?

Well sir, you just described Trumps base! So why don’t you talk the same shit about them? There, pretty simple.

Let’s see some data supporting your side.

 

[Copa9]

You would think but it's surprising still how many people are holding onto "we must do something". I'm still getting a lot of if only we weren't so selfish and just wore our masks and had some competent leadership this thing would go away in 30 days. Our local school board president suggested to me that we shut down for 30 days for everything and people stopped going out to play basketball and we just all stocked up on supplies, we could eliminate the virus. I did my schtick: would you shut down the free lunch program you offered hard hit kids during the lockdowns? Would you shut the southern border to even American citizens? You prepared to suppress protests (whether left or right) with force? Her response back is if we'd only unite together we could overcome anything.

I have wanted to comment about the free lunch program for a while. There certainly are children who absolutely need free lunches. To apply for the free lunch, a form is filled out and signed. If your income is below a certain level, number of people, you qualify. Right. But no proof needs to be shown. I have seen many children who "qualify" for free lunch playing with their ipads before school or on their iphones. I have seen them show up for our school book sales with $40,$50. I have seen them wearing very expensive sneakers, most I could not afford. If a child needs a free lunch, absolutely give it to him/her. There is so much abuse of the system it is ridiculous. I have been told by a friend, who was having a street party a couple years ago, who does this with his family, that they pay cash for almost everything to hide income. Lunches can and have been delivered during the shelter in place. So not problem there.

 

[watfly]

Can’t Charter schools pick and choose who they enroll, much like Private schools?

False, but that's what the teachers unions would have you believe. Charters have to accept all that apply. If more apply than capacity they have to hold a random public drawing. Now EOTL and his tinfoil hat would have you believe that the enrollment is "reverse engineered" to cherry pick the ethnically and socially preferable children.

Charter Schools in California - CalEdFacts (CA Dept of Education)

This content is part of California Department of Education's information and media guide about education in the State of California.

www.cde.ca.gov

 

[Sheriff Joe]

False, but that's what the teachers unions would have you believe. Charters have to accept all that apply. If more apply than capacity they have to hold a random public drawing. Now EOTL and his tinfoil hat would have you believe that the enrollment is "reverse engineered" to cherry pick the ethnically and socially preferable children.

Charter Schools in California - CalEdFacts (CA Dept of Education)

This content is part of California Department of Education's information and media guide about education in the State of California.

www.cde.ca.gov

You do know how to tell when a lib is lying?

 

[Copa9]

I know I am going to be hugely unpopular after saying this but I think sports is done and done. At least for this year at least... maybe at the collegiate level it can be salvaged but for youth and club soccer specifically whether its SCDSL, ECNL,ECRL, MLS, GAL, DPL, CRL, AWOL, HPV, IOU, DUI, etc, I think it's over.... (SO CAL) what say you @Grace T. @Copa9 ??

Sadly yes, unless we can cut the number of covid cases. Watched a soccer coach/trainer at our local park with a group of six girls, he was doing a good job with distancing, but then, wait for it, they took a water break and the girls rushed to a shady tree and sat very close to each other laughing and drinking their water. ( I was on a bench watching enjoying watching them from a distance, had been walking my dog) Really too bad. It is that type of thing that either he didn't think what he was letting them do was a problem or he didn't care because he was far away. This morning I was at Target in RSM, some petitioners there, I don't care what they were trying to get people to sign, but they did not have on masks. As I walked by I asked them where their masks were, women replied, he is my husband, but then three people walked up to sign petition, no one had on a mask. They were all within three, four feet of each other. This might be a losing battle with idiots like that, they just don't think it will affect them I guess.

 

[Copa9]

PEOPLE STOP TESTING! other facts people forget is that the death rate in italy and spain (at a minimum) is much worse than the US.

So far.

 

[Copa9]

Kids distance learning temporarily and murder is not exactly a fair comparison.

What do you m

Denver School District has now reversed course and after being pressured by the teacher's union is going remote only. The entire state of Colorado, despite reopening, has averaged less than 7 deaths per day since June 1. If that's the standards the unions are holding up, we aren't opening up the schools until a vaccine, whenever that is. Anyone else see a trend?

Have relatives in Boulder and the numbers are increasing. Maybe they want to get a firm handle on it before it takes off like in Arizona and California.

 

[dad4]

By this definition, I guess we are still British and under the crown.

No, but by that definition Adams was our first President, not Washington. Which is sort of true. Washington never had to win a contested election.

I never said Mexico failed to win independence. I just said I don’t call someone President unless they won an election. If you really want to nit pick, bring up President Ford. But you know what I mean. There is a difference between President and dictator.

 

[paytoplay]

Matt Drudge online info is so negative. BTW, RIP John Lewis. He should be up at the top of the Drudge report.
He should call it the, "Dire Straights Report"

NEW PEAK NOW: USA 77,638 INFECTIONS IN PAST 24 HOURS...
Deaths rise and rise...
With antibodies fading fast, vaccine hopes fade, too...
Mistrust Could Imperil Widespread Immunity...
Scientists identify 6 types of coronavirus with increasing severity levels...
Man leaves hospital after 100 day fight...
Doctor who survived bewildered by public disregard...
Nation divided over mask wearing and schools reopening...
Rancor between scientists and Trump allies threatens response...
GOP senators sound alarm as cases surge in home states...
Republicans eye sweeping shield from liability...

A “Nation Divided” says it all. Trump’s epitaph. Sad.

 

[Justafan]

Let’s see some data supporting your side.

You know how Outlaw can tell that the Black football player couldn’t have possibly scored a 1200 on his SAT’s, I can tell by simply looking at the people at a Trump rally! How bout them apples?

 

[Ellejustus]

It's here and always has been here. It's alive!!! Were all going to get the virus. Write it down and dont forget that.

Iran estimates up to 25 million coronavirus cases since outbreak; nearly doubling the total worldwide caseload: report

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani estimated that up to 25 million people in the country have been infected with coronavirus but despite this tally and urging from Rouhani himself to take precautions to protect against the virus' spread, the country will not reimpose lockdown restrictions.

www.foxnews.com

 

[MacDre]

No, but by that definition Adams was our first President, not Washington. Which is sort of true. Washington never had to win a contested election.

I never said Mexico failed to win independence. I just said I don’t call someone President unless they won an election. If you really want to nit pick, bring up President Ford. But you know what I mean. There is a difference between President and dictator.

Fair.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

I figured that is why you chose a hypothetical R0 = 1.2. The opposite is also true if you do your calculations on the R0 for SARS-COV-2 (R0 = 2 - 3) and you see that population with a 20% having antibodies does little to slow the spread of diseases as the effective R0 = 1.6 - 2.4 well above 1 and requires other NPI to mitigate the spread (like social distancing, etc). One can see the R0 has risen in NYC as these measures are being relaxed. This is magnified further given the role "super spreaders"and how the R0 = 2 - 3 is the average across the population but is higher for these individuals.

I would say in Northeast that the various NPI had a more significant impact on the reduction of the R0 than the emergence of individuals who developed immunity to the virus given the higher N0 for this virus. Just my two cents.

My primary point was that CNN did a poor job of informing people with that article and I provided an example to show why. I like your initial conditions, too. Let's see what it means in terms of NYC (20% with antibodies) and AZ (3.1% with antibodies) and use 2.5, the midpoint of your R0.

From inverse.com
Incubation period: 4-6 days for most to develop symptoms
Infectious period: 1-3 days prior to developing symptoms and for 7 days after developing symptoms.
So, most are infectious from 1-5 days after being infected and continues until day 11-13. 8 days is about in the middle, although I'd argue it's more likely people infect others earlier in the infectious period before they show symptoms as they are less likely to isolate themselves without symptoms.

Covid-19: How long does it take to get sick, how long you're infectious, when you can go outside

As the coronavirus pandemic stretches on, a small proportion of Australians infected have now died, while most have either recovered, or are likely to recover over the next few weeks.

www.inverse.com

So, we go through a generation of the virus in about 8 days. With R0 = 2.5, the effective R for
NYC: 2.0 = 2.5*0.8
AZ: 2.4225 = 2.5*0.969

- after 8 days
NY: 2 people
AZ: 2.4225 people
21% higher rate of infection in AZ

- after 16 days
NY: 4 = 2*2
AZ: 5.8685 = 2.4225*2.4225
47% higher rate of infection in AZ

- after 24 days
NY: 8 = 2*4
AZ: 14.2 = 2.4225*5.8685
78% higher in AZ

- after 32 days
NY: 16
AZ = 34.4 = 2.4225^2*58.685
115% higher in AZ

While both are in ugly exponential growth territory, there can be little doubt that NYC isn't in nearly as bad as shape as AZ simply due to the number already infected in NYC. Yes, NYC may be doing other things - quite possibly things that AZ is not doing. However, they get the above "advantage" over AZ in terms of new growth without doing anything other than a poor job of containing the virus in March.