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Justafan said:
Another one bites the dust. Why did you change the subject? And really, it’s all about labels for you? The first sign of a weak argument is somebody who starts off labeling somebody as a lib, dem, alt right, etc.

Substance my friend, it’s all about the substance of the argument. Check all my posts, I’ve never labeled anyone. And for that matter I’ve never criticized Trump for misspellings, or gaffes. That’s for weak fucks.

You want an intellectualy honest discussion, you’re on. Let’s see if you can hang tough guy. I can’t stand Trump, but he was right on the China ban, Biden was wrong, 3.5 unemployment was great, Soleimani & the other fuck were good to taken out.

I’m assuming you hated Obama, so give me a couple of good things about Obama. I’ll be waiting.
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I'll jump in, first let's establish intellectual honesty...can we agree that Biden shows clear signs of dementia?
 
MARsSPEED said:
First Black President. One of the best teleprompter readers of all time. Began the economic recovery. Sports Enthusiast. Master manipulator. That’s it. He is what turned me middle

I voted for him in 2008. I did not vote for him in 2012 but I did not vote for Romney either.

Bill Clinton was the Democrat Policy President of our Lifetime. I look at Trump as the Republican equal. Excellent policy, horrible person.

You don’t want to debate me with your cookie cutter Conservative opinion. That’s why the “silent majority” is so pissed off, calling every conservative a racist when it couldn’t be further from the truth like @EOTL does.

As much as I can’t stand Trump as a person, he has gotten more done all while being under non-stop attack by the media. It’s disgusting. I honestly believe he is not racist rather he says stupid stupid things that portrays him as a moron. I vote on policy and not personality hence I will be voting for Trump again in 2020.

Lastly, you can bring up any fact, statistic, or policy and I will happily research and agree or disagree. If a debate is needed, I will oblige. Just remember, facts/statistics over ride opinion.
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He was NOT the first black president in North America.
 
Grace T. said:
I dunno. A handful of more categories for your consideration. The Dumb Right is divided into the true Dumb Right (think Hannity and Trump can do no wrong) and the Bargain with the Devil Right (think Tucker Carlson and that is critical of Trump but thinks the left is worse or evil). Similarly, your Dumb Left divides into the true Dumb Left (Kimmel who thinks the left is not only great and can do no wrong but also that the right is evil) and the Establishment Left (Pelosi who are in it more for themselves and the power). You left out the libertarians, the blue dogs (what's left of em), and the Never Trump Neocons (Megan McCain and Bill Kristol...you can't put them in the critical thinking conservatives because they are motivated by a blind hatred of Trump, even when he stumbles into something that's actually smart). I was probably an Informed Swing Voter, am now a Critical Thinking Conservatie, but am moving into the Bargain with the Devil Right.
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Honestly, Tucker is the only program I watch on Fox anymore. If Gutfield could have just a 10 minute monologue show, I would watch that too. Hate Tucker all you want but even Liberals I know enjoy his show. I might not agree with all of it, but most seems like basic common sense. I do tend to research his talking points as well. No question he tends to twist things as well but not as much as others.

My wife is an Alt Righter. I usually have to direct her to change the channel when I get home. I don’t want to hear the biased crap.

I also tune into Cuomo and Maddow every once in a while. Cuomo is the Liberal Tucker. Maddow drives me up a wall as she twists way too many things and the propaganda gives me a good idea on what to research. Hannity is the conservative equal to Maddow. Don Lemon is the worst though. There is no equal to the bias he puts out. Maddow is close but Lemon is in a class all by itself. Laura G. is lightweight Alt Right compared to the opposite Lemon.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Honestly, Tucker is the only program I watch on Fox anymore. If Gutfield could have just a 10 minute monologue show, I would watch that too. Hate Tucker all you want but even Liberals I know enjoy his show. I might not agree with all of it, but most seems like basic common sense. I do tend to research his talking points as well. No question he tends to twist things as well but not as much as others.

My wife is an Alt Righter. I usually have to direct her to change the channel when I get home. I don’t want to hear the biased crap.

I also tune into Cuomo and Maddow every once in a while. Cuomo is the Liberal Tucker. Maddow drives me up a wall as she twists way too many things and the propaganda gives me a good idea on what to research. Hannity is the conservative equal to Maddow. Don Lemon is the worst though. There is no equal to the bias he puts out. Maddow is close but Lemon is in a class all by itself. Laura G. is lightweight Alt Right compared to the opposite Lemon.
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What about The Story with Martha?
 
MARsSPEED said:
Honestly, Tucker is the only program I watch on Fox anymore. If Gutfield could have just a 10 minute monologue show, I would watch that too. Hate Tucker all you want but even Liberals I know enjoy his show. I might not agree with all of it, but most seems like basic common sense. I do tend to research his talking points as well. No question he tends to twist things as well but not as much as others.

My wife is an Alt Righter. I usually have to direct her to change the channel when I get home. I don’t want to hear the biased crap.

I also tune into Cuomo and Maddow every once in a while. Cuomo is the Liberal Tucker. Maddow drives me up a wall as she twists way too many things and the propaganda gives me a good idea on what to research. Hannity is the conservative equal to Maddow. Don Lemon is the worst though. There is no equal to the bias he puts out. Maddow is close but Lemon is in a class all by itself. Laura G. is lightweight Alt Right compared to the opposite Lemon.
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Tucker has been killing it as of late, he's all one needs to watch.
 
MARsSPEED said:
I should also say that’s like me saying Democrats founded Slavery, KKK, and Jim Crow. Oh wait...
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I know it seems obvious, but following the rules of the woke...why has there been no call for Democrats to change their name? or removal of everything Robert Byrd? Funny how that works.
 
Grace T. said:
Errr....my folks are from Peru and Mexico. We're proud of our culture and la raza, we still speak the lengua, my folks still go to all the local restaurants and hangout with their generation and reminsice about the old days, they still wave their flags during the world cup. They miss their homelands. But they were part of the educated elite over there and still fled their shitholes. Now granted, my father wouldn't describe his country as a shithole. He left that to my brothers and me when we visited the joint when I was 6 and we all came down with something serious we suspect was cholera. He reserves the term "shithole" for Chile.
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Nolberto Solano former Newcastle United player best Peruvian player all time. Imo :p

Good Peruvian restaurant in Santa Ana 17th and Ross called El Cortijo. And a great soccer store a block away called Soccer Store :D
 
Ellejustus said:
What about The Story with Martha?
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All this politics is my new sport. This is what old men used to do in the old days before ESPN and youth sports. I used to listen to Rome when i sold yellow page advertising in the late 90s and early 2000s. Rome saved me. The rejection was brutal.
 
MicPaPa said:
A real joking matter.
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You really thought I was serious? Outlaw knows I was being facetious and he knows I got him, hence his “your speaking my language.”

The telling thing here is why you’re calling me out and don’t call Outlaw out for saying the EXACT same thing about Black shooting victims. They all had it coming for one reason or another.
 
MicPaPa said:
I'll jump in, first let's establish intellectual honesty...can we agree that Biden shows clear signs of dementia?
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Ha, you probably thought I would say no, but of course he‘s not ALL there. He looks and talks a little better now than the early days in his basement. That had me really worried. I’m less worried now

But as long as he’s standing and breathing, he’s got a real good shot.

And I know the follow up question, are you really going to vote for a president with early stages of dementia? Yes. You voted for Trump for similar reasons. Policy will be set by those around him.

As I mentioned before I can acknowledge Trumps positives, yet his negatives far outweigh the positives. The disaster we’re experiencing after COVID arrived is all on Trump. It’s called scoreboard.

In the war against the invisible enemy, there is only one commander in chief and in his most important role and responsibility he choked beyond belief and put the onus on his 50 kids.

Second reason, he’s deliberately pitting Americans against each other and ultimately we ALL lose when we’re at each other’s throats. He’s made America so ghetto It’s not funny.
 
MARsSPEED said:
First Black President. One of the best teleprompter readers of all time. Began the economic recovery. Sports Enthusiast. Master manipulator. That’s it. He is what turned me middle

I voted for him in 2008. I did not vote for him in 2012 but I did not vote for Romney either.

Bill Clinton was the Democrat Policy President of our Lifetime. I look at Trump as the Republican equal. Excellent policy, horrible person.

You don’t want to debate me with your cookie cutter Conservative opinion. That’s why the “silent majority” is so pissed off, calling every conservative a racist when it couldn’t be further from the truth like @EOTL does.

As much as I can’t stand Trump as a person, he has gotten more done all while being under non-stop attack by the media. It’s disgusting. I honestly believe he is not racist rather he says stupid stupid things that portrays him as a moron. I vote on policy and not personality hence I will be voting for Trump again in 2020.

Lastly, you can bring up any fact, statistic, or policy and I will happily research and agree or disagree. If a debate is needed, I will oblige. Just remember, facts/statistics over ride opinion.
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I only asked for positives and you couldn’t help yourself by taking some shots at Obama, but that’s fine. At least you listed one positive, “began the economic recovery,” so I’ll give you credit. He handed Trump an unemployment rate of 4.7, and took the stock market from 5k in 2008 and handed it to Trump at 20k.

Most people would also add Osama Bin Laden.
 
Denver School District has now reversed course and after being pressured by the teacher's union is going remote only. The entire state of Colorado, despite reopening, has averaged less than 7 deaths per day since June 1. If that's the standards the unions are holding up, we aren't opening up the schools until a vaccine, whenever that is. Anyone else see a trend?
 
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