No Soccer - Bad / No School - Catastrophic!

[EOTL]

Cases yes. Notice deaths are not following along with that. That is why the press now talks cases and not deaths.

Spain is now starting to shut down Barcelona and the surrounding areas again as of yesterday or today.

So does Sweden

Except NY/NJ/CT? You mean the states where about 40% off all deaths were? So if your argument is they locked down hard enough and the rest of the US didn't, why did they experience so many deaths? And the rest of the US really hasn't experienced that?

By the way they are not back to a normal life yet. They rely heavily on tourism. Much of their tourism infrastructure is not fully open. They are attempting to phase stuff back in over the month of August. Yes they have started to let people in the Schengen zone in. But they are not for much of the rest of the world. And they are staggering tourism openings. They have a long way to go.

And they will see covid cases rise again. As they move around more, more cases will rise again. As travelers start coming in, cases will rise again.

Back to Spain who you seem happy about. Barcelona just recorded over 1k cases again yesterday.

What is interesting about what is happening now is despite the rather large rise is positives in the West and South of the US, we are not seeing anything like the number of corresponding deaths that we saw up in the NE. NY has something like 420k cases and with that 32k deaths. Cal has 370K cases and only about 7k deaths.

NY/NJ/CT/MA/PA are close to half of all deaths in USA.

The press has been hyperventilating about AZ/TX/FL/GA for some time. Those states have about 10% of all deaths.

Now how many cases does NY/NJ/CT/MA/PA have? 880k confirmed cases.

AZ/TX/FL/GA have 921k cases.

Why is that despite more cases, those states have fewer deaths? And by a long shot. Did the lockdowns help the NE? It seems hard to argue that lockdowns in NY were the way to go, but somehow AZ has it wrong? Has the virus changed? What has changed? Is the virus less lethal? Have we already lost the most vulnerable?

Quick question. How many people need to die in AZ to convince you that your state really f**ked up?

Yes, the lockdowns helped the NE. AZ is fortunate that it doesn’t have population density to worry about and that cacti and dirt aren’t contagious, but s**t’s tracking pretty bad anyway. Abysmal, in fact.

 

[MicPaPa]

If it were all about me as a parent, it would be easy.

My kids have the skills and home support to work independently. Pure virtual works just fine, for us.

It does not work out so great for everyone else.

Which puts me back on the fence. Nice view, but a little precarious.

Sure, my kids as well...but our kids need to be around each other for social and mental health as well, probably more than either of us realize. It's not me stating this, plenty of experts in child psycology and pediatrics... check it out.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Exactly, Mars, you Chiefs and Outlaw have just been describing Trump's base to a "T." Bunch of f'n low life deplorable losers who couldn't hack it in America's free market. They lost and now they have the balls to blame illegals, libs, and dems for all their problems. And since they're White, they also have the balls to DEMAND handouts. Bring back coal, force companies to lose money and bring back manufacturing to my home town so I can have a job. I'm glad you guys have been able to identify these losers.

Yes, outlaw, they should ALL look in the mirror before they blame anybody else for their problems. I agree.

Couldn't hack it in the free market? Uh, we're not the ones begging for a lowered bar so we can be included. "Wah... make the cops go away." "Wah... make weed legal." "Wah... let us paint graffiti in the street so we're empowered." "Wah... make that red flag with the X disappear." "Wah... black criminals matter." "Wah... those statues really make us mad." "Wah... say his name." "WWWWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!"

You really are a fucking moron. Does the SHU commander know you've been on the web longer than 5 minutes tonight?

 

[MARsSPEED]

Exactly, Mars, you Chiefs and Outlaw have just been describing Trump's base to a "T." Bunch of f'n low life deplorable losers who couldn't hack it in America's free market. They lost and now they have the balls to blame illegals, libs, and dems for all their problems. And since they're White, they also have the balls to DEMAND handouts. Bring back coal, force companies to lose money and bring back manufacturing to my home town so I can have a job. I'm glad you guys have been able to identify these losers.

Yes, outlaw, they should ALL look in the mirror before they blame anybody else for their problems. I agree.

LOL, can’t figure out if you fit in my Far Left bracket or Radicalized Left bracket yet. I’m sure I will figure it out within a couple posts. Were you the ANTIFA supporter from the CoVid thread. I know @EOTL is the only one in my radicalized bracket at this point.

FYI, my brackets are as follows:

Radicalized Left - ANTIFA, BLM, Nation of Islam, etc. I small minority of the left.

Far Left - CNN Junkies reinforces by more biased information. Tends to believe in socialism

Dumb Left - someone who only watches CNN or MSNBC during the evening. Majority of the Left.

Critical Thinking Liberal - A liberal with respect for other people’s opinions. Has liberal morals but also educated and understands the other side. Does research on the source of the source.

Uninformed Swing Voter - that person you know who doesn’t inform themselves on politics or cares about politics and still votes

Informed Swing Voter - Gets both sides of the story

Critical Thinking Conservative - Same as Critical Liberal but with Conservative values

Dumb Right - same as dumb left but with Fox Cable News. Majority of the Right.

Alt Right - more than just Fox Cable News, adds additional media like Breitbart and Infowars

Radicalized Right - Right Wing Militias, KKK, etc. A small minority of the Right.

I was going to add User names but decided it would not be a great idea. So where do you all fit in?

 

[Justafan]

Couldn't go through with what, dummy?

Tough guy can’t pull the trigger. Even your professor knew you were a phony.

 

[Ellejustus]

LOL, can’t figure out if you fit in my Far Left bracket or Radicalized Left bracket yet. I’m sure I will figure it out within a couple posts. Were you the ANTIFA supporter from the CoVid thread. I know @EOTL is the only one in my radicalized bracket at this point.

FYI, my brackets are as follows:

Radicalized Left - ANTIFA, BLM, Nation of Islam, etc. I small minority of the left.

Far Left - CNN Junkies reinforces by more biased information. Tends to believe in socialism

Dumb Left - someone who only watches CNN or MSNBC during the evening. Majority of the Left.

Critical Thinking Liberal - A liberal with respect for other people’s opinions. Has liberal morals but also educated and understands the other side. Does research on the source of the source.

Uninformed Swing Voter - that person you know who doesn’t inform themselves on politics or cares about politics and still votes

Informed Swing Voter - Gets both sides of the story

Critical Thinking Conservative - Same as Critical Liberal but with Conservative values

Dumb Right - same as dumb left but with Fox Cable News. Majority of the Right.

Alt Right - more than just Fox Cable News, adds additional media like Breitbart and Infowars

Radicalized Right - Right Wing Militias, KKK, etc. A small minority of the Right.

I was going to add User names but decided it would not be a great idea. So where do you all fit in?

I see it a little differently but I really like how you lay it all out Mars. If one is honest with themselves, they can slide right into whatever class their in. I would also add Warlord and Virago to the radicalized Lefties. Grand Wizard and White Supremacist for the Radicalized Right.
Can you legally start a militia?
Private Militias. Private militias are armed military groups that are composed of private citizens and not recognized by federal or state governments. ... Generally, these laws prohibit the parading and exercising of armed private militias in public, but do not forbid the formation of private militias.

 

[Justafan]

Couldn't hack it in the free market? Uh, we're not the ones begging for a lowered bar so we can be included. "Wah... make the cops go away." "Wah... make weed legal." "Wah... let us paint graffiti in the street so we're empowered." "Wah... make that red flag with the X disappear." "Wah... black criminals matter." "Wah... those statues really make us mad." "Wah... say his name." "WWWWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!"

You really are a fucking moron. Does the SHU commander know you've been on the web longer than 5 minutes tonight?

Weak. Why didn’t you address what I said? You completely changed the topic because you know I’m right. You keep pounding the table outlaw.

 

[MacDre]

????

One of my daughter’s best friends is Chilean. She’s brunette with green eyes and of European decent without one drop of Indigenous blood. Her family is also absurdly rich. Argentina and Chile are “whiter” than many European countries!

 

[MSK357]

Very true and very different analysis. It tripped me out, when I looked on the slave roles and saw Irish indentured servants.
I have even been uncomfortable with how I have seen Irish and Polish folk treated relatively recently in the UK.

Not talked about much in history books either

 

[Ellejustus]

LOL, can’t figure out if you fit in my Far Left bracket or Radicalized Left bracket yet. I’m sure I will figure it out within a couple posts. Were you the ANTIFA supporter from the CoVid thread. I know @EOTL is the only one in my radicalized bracket at this point.

FYI, my brackets are as follows:

Radicalized Left - ANTIFA, BLM, Nation of Islam, etc. I small minority of the left.

Far Left - CNN Junkies reinforces by more biased information. Tends to believe in socialism

Dumb Left - someone who only watches CNN or MSNBC during the evening. Majority of the Left.

Critical Thinking Liberal - A liberal with respect for other people’s opinions. Has liberal morals but also educated and understands the other side. Does research on the source of the source.

Uninformed Swing Voter - that person you know who doesn’t inform themselves on politics or cares about politics and still votes

Informed Swing Voter - Gets both sides of the story

Critical Thinking Conservative - Same as Critical Liberal but with Conservative values

Dumb Right - same as dumb left but with Fox Cable News. Majority of the Right.

Alt Right - more than just Fox Cable News, adds additional media like Breitbart and Infowars

Radicalized Right - Right Wing Militias, KKK, etc. A small minority of the Right.

I was going to add User names but decided it would not be a great idea. So where do you all fit in?

Plus I would add to the alt right the crazy christian interpretation of the bible like that snake pastor that died after his 9th bite.

 

[dad4]

Sure, my kids as well...but our kids need to be around each other for social and mental health as well, probably more than either of us realize. It's not me stating this, plenty of experts in child psycology and pediatrics... check it out.

I’ve been watching it. For elementary, I’m in favor of opening with small stable groups.

For high school, I don’t see how we can open without a significant increase in cases that forces us to close it back down 6 weeks later.

If we were capable of 98% compliance with mask usage and non-gathering, then maybe we could get our rates down enough to open high schools.

But everything I see indicates we are not capable of it.

 

[Justafan]

LOL, can’t figure out if you fit in my Far Left bracket or Radicalized Left bracket yet. I’m sure I will figure it out within a couple posts. Were you the ANTIFA supporter from the CoVid thread. I know @EOTL is the only one in my radicalized bracket at this point.

FYI, my brackets are as follows:

Radicalized Left - ANTIFA, BLM, Nation of Islam, etc. I small minority of the left.

Far Left - CNN Junkies reinforces by more biased information. Tends to believe in socialism

Dumb Left - someone who only watches CNN or MSNBC during the evening. Majority of the Left.

Critical Thinking Liberal - A liberal with respect for other people’s opinions. Has liberal morals but also educated and understands the other side. Does research on the source of the source.

Uninformed Swing Voter - that person you know who doesn’t inform themselves on politics or cares about politics and still votes

Informed Swing Voter - Gets both sides of the story

Critical Thinking Conservative - Same as Critical Liberal but with Conservative values

Dumb Right - same as dumb left but with Fox Cable News. Majority of the Right.

Alt Right - more than just Fox Cable News, adds additional media like Breitbart and Infowars

Radicalized Right - Right Wing Militias, KKK, etc. A small minority of the Right.

I was going to add User names but decided it would not be a great idea. So where do you all fit in?

Another one bites the dust. Why did you change the subject? And really, it’s all about labels for you? The first sign of a weak argument is somebody who starts off labeling somebody as a lib, dem, alt right, etc.

Substance my friend, it’s all about the substance of the argument. Check all my posts, I’ve never labeled anyone. And for that matter I’ve never criticized Trump for misspellings, or gaffes. That’s for weak fucks.

You want an intellectualy honest discussion, you’re on. Let’s see if you can hang tough guy. I can’t stand Trump, but he was right on the China ban, Biden was wrong, 3.5 unemployment was great, Soleimani & the other fuck were good to taken out.

I’m assuming you hated Obama, so give me a couple of good things about Obama. I’ll be waiting.

 

[Justafan]

One of my daughter’s best friends is Chilean. She’s brunette with green eyes and of European decent without one drop of Indigenous blood. Her family is also absurdly rich. Argentina and Chile are “whiter” than many European countries!

Sounds like Grace agrees with me, but I’m not sure about the “Errr,” so my reason for the ????!

 

[Grace T.]

LOL, can’t figure out if you fit in my Far Left bracket or Radicalized Left bracket yet. I’m sure I will figure it out within a couple posts. Were you the ANTIFA supporter from the CoVid thread. I know @EOTL is the only one in my radicalized bracket at this point.

FYI, my brackets are as follows:

Radicalized Left - ANTIFA, BLM, Nation of Islam, etc. I small minority of the left.

Far Left - CNN Junkies reinforces by more biased information. Tends to believe in socialism

Dumb Left - someone who only watches CNN or MSNBC during the evening. Majority of the Left.

Critical Thinking Liberal - A liberal with respect for other people’s opinions. Has liberal morals but also educated and understands the other side. Does research on the source of the source.

Uninformed Swing Voter - that person you know who doesn’t inform themselves on politics or cares about politics and still votes

Informed Swing Voter - Gets both sides of the story

Critical Thinking Conservative - Same as Critical Liberal but with Conservative values

Dumb Right - same as dumb left but with Fox Cable News. Majority of the Right.

Alt Right - more than just Fox Cable News, adds additional media like Breitbart and Infowars

Radicalized Right - Right Wing Militias, KKK, etc. A small minority of the Right.

I was going to add User names but decided it would not be a great idea. So where do you all fit in?

I dunno. A handful of more categories for your consideration. The Dumb Right is divided into the true Dumb Right (think Hannity and Trump can do no wrong) and the Bargain with the Devil Right (think Tucker Carlson and that is critical of Trump but thinks the left is worse or evil). Similarly, your Dumb Left divides into the true Dumb Left (Kimmel who thinks the left is not only great and can do no wrong but also that the right is evil) and the Establishment Left (Pelosi who are in it more for themselves and the power). You left out the libertarians, the blue dogs (what's left of em), and the Never Trump Neocons (Megan McCain and Bill Kristol...you can't put them in the critical thinking conservatives because they are motivated by a blind hatred of Trump, even when he stumbles into something that's actually smart). I was probably an Informed Swing Voter, am now a Critical Thinking Conservatie, but am moving into the Bargain with the Devil Right.

 

[Grace T.]

Sounds like Grace agrees with me, but I’m not sure about the “Errr,” so my reason for the ????!

Peruvians, Chileans and Bolivians hate each other (more than they hate the classes and racial mixes within their own societies). Because of history. "Everyone's just a little bit racist"-- Avenue Q.

 

[Ellejustus]

I dunno. A handful of more categories for your consideration. The Dumb Right is divided into the true Dumb Right (think Hannity and Trump can do no wrong) and the Bargain with the Devil Right (think Tucker Carlson and that is critical of Trump but thinks the left is worse or evil). Similarly, your Dumb Left divides into the true Dumb Left (Kimmel who thinks the left is not only great and can do no wrong but also that the right is evil) and the Establishment Left (Pelosi who are in it more for themselves and the power). You left out the libertarians, the blue dogs (what's left of em), and the Never Trump Neocons (Megan McCain and Bill Kristol...you can't put them in the critical thinking conservatives because they are motivated by a blind hatred of Trump, even when he stumbles into something that's actually smart). I was probably an Informed Swing Voter, am now a Critical Thinking Conservatie, but am moving into the Bargain with the Devil Right.

My freind Colin were just laughing about all this. In January 2020, my pal was making $150,000 and saving for seven more years and then move to Bali. He went there a few years ago and fell in love with a beautiful Bali girl. Let me just say this. You can live on the beach in a bungalow for $700 a month. I think he said he can live there and be treated like a kIng under $2,000. He hated when I brought up politics. He was uninformed swinger on the left. Today, he bought a gun and is looking at property out of Cali ((Utah sounds good)) and will move if Joe wins. He loves Trump. I would put him at the critical thinking right side but is showing signs of militia and i'm shocked and tripping out.

 

[Grace T.]

Peruvians, Chileans and Bolivians hate each other (more than they hate the classes and racial mixes within their own societies). Because of history. "Everyone's just a little bit racist"-- Avenue Q.

p.s. you guys want to see a good soccer series how soccer really operates in most of the world, during quarantine watch "Club de Cuervos" on Netflix. You want to see how racist the Mexicans can be and how they really and truly regard Central America as a shithole, watch the spin off "La Balada de Jugo Chavez"...they use far worse terms than shithole.

p.p.s. let's not forget while we are all distracted with our statutes and school closures, the Chinese are shipping off the Uigars in trains to concentration camps a la 1945 redux.

 

[MARsSPEED]

Another one bites the dust. Why did you change the subject? And really, it’s all about labels for you? The first sign of a weak argument is somebody who starts off labeling somebody as a lib, dem, alt right, etc.

Substance my friend, it’s all about the substance of the argument. Check all my posts, I’ve never labeled anyone. And for that matter I’ve never criticized Trump for misspellings, or gaffes. That’s for weak fucks.

You want an intellectualy honest discussion, you’re on. Let’s see if you can hang tough guy. I can’t stand Trump, but he was right on the China ban, Biden was wrong, 3.5 unemployment was great, Soleimani & the other fuck were good to taken out.

I’m assuming you hated Obama, so give me a couple of good things about Obama. I’ll be waiting.

First Black President. One of the best teleprompter readers of all time. Began the economic recovery. Sports Enthusiast. Master manipulator. That’s it. He is what turned me middle

I voted for him in 2008. I did not vote for him in 2012 but I did not vote for Romney either.

Bill Clinton was the Democrat Policy President of our Lifetime. I look at Trump as the Republican equal. Excellent policy, horrible person.

You don’t want to debate me with your cookie cutter Conservative opinion. That’s why the “silent majority” is so pissed off, calling every conservative a racist when it couldn’t be further from the truth like @EOTL does.

As much as I can’t stand Trump as a person, he has gotten more done all while being under non-stop attack by the media. It’s disgusting. I honestly believe he is not racist rather he says stupid stupid things that portrays him as a moron. I vote on policy and not personality hence I will be voting for Trump again in 2020.

Lastly, you can bring up any fact, statistic, or policy and I will happily research and agree or disagree. If a debate is needed, I will oblige. Just remember, facts/statistics over ride opinion.

 

[MicPaPa]

Dumb ass bitch had it coming. Why is she hanging out in the hood with known hoodrats? She should know only bad things happen in the hood. Does she not watch the news. She put herself in that position. Plus she was moving when they were shouting at her "stop resisting," "stop resisting." As for the kid, why is the kid "obstructing" a beat down. Kid deserved a beat down for "obstruction of hood justice."

A real joking matter.

 

[MARsSPEED]

Plus I would add to the alt right the crazy christian interpretation of the bible like that snake pastor that died after his 9th bite.

Yeah, I’m just playing the generalization game. I could break down each group for sure. Each group has its own demographic, lol.