No Soccer - Bad / No School - Catastrophic!

MacDre said:
Outlaw, the system worked for me. I received an incredible amount of support

Maybe your kids can go to BYU. Just let them know that your pal MacDre said not to drink a Coke during their campus visit to BYU. I was told caffeine is a drug.
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The "system" won't work for most people without support. But the opportunity to achieve is there for everybody.

Caffeine IS a drug.
 
The Outlaw said:
They may not be bad people... but what they're doing is illegal. If we want people to come here legally and earn a fair wage, we need to stop encouraging illegals to come here by tearing down the border wall and promising "free" healthcare at the expense of the American taxpayer. Fucking liberals will promise ANYTHING for votes.
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The business owners who are making millions are cheating as well and money is tempting. Get real Outlaw.
 
Ellejustus said:
The business owners who are making millions are cheating as well and money is tempting. Get real Outlaw.
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I REALize that, Spicoli, which is why I'm saying to stop the border crossings. If there ARE no illegals to hire, there ARE no illegals to exploit. People waiting to come here know, and are willing to do, those same jobs. Let them do it for a fair wage.
 
Eagle33 said:
With more testing you will have more cases. Let's all crawl under the rock and wait?
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I swear they said back in March that it was about keeping death down and flat the curve. Now all we here on the news is more cases and more cases and shut her down and no sports. Were all infected by the bat virus folks. Some % will have no idea and will carry on in life. He could also be the guy who died last night in a motor cycle accident and be counted as a Corvid death. Other % will feel something and take it easy. Still other % will feel like sh*t and sleep for 6 days like Dom did and I did. Mine was 4 days with two really horrible nights like someone poking me with hot needles and my back killed me. Hard time breathing. I chalked it up as a bad ass flu type cough. I still had the sniffles for weeks and I'm sure got others sick. Some % with underlying heath issues will have a real hard time and race to ER. Some % will die ((mostly over 80)) because the bat virus was too much for them. Some % of kids will die by a shark attack and 10% of those victims will have corona and not know it. This should not be counted in covid death math but it would if it did happen. It's not about keeping up the Joneses anymore, it's about keeping up with the Cases.
 
Ellejustus said:
The fact is the cases will most likely go up. If you get lucky and pass the 14 days, a nurse will be at the guard and someone will get the corona and all panic all over again. This will not work and it's not supposed to work.
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Collectively, stop getting tested people. There is zero point but punitive.
 
Nothing unreasonable about Newsom's guidelines. And sounds like those of you that were adamant about remote learning including live instruction/discussion are going to get some of that. I'm not looking forward to it, I'd prefer the kids could go back to school, but for middle class and up families I just don't get the outrage. It's actually a good opportunity for our very comfortable kids to learn some resilience. But again, I don't have the outrage disease that seems to have taken over our culture, regardless of your political views. It's all temporary folks! Everything is always changing. Most of the time for the better.
 
BIGD said:
Nothing unreasonable about Newsom's guidelines. And sounds like those of you that were adamant about remote learning including live instruction/discussion are going to get some of that. I'm not looking forward to it, I'd prefer the kids could go back to school, but for middle class and up families I just don't get the outrage. It's actually a good opportunity for our very comfortable kids to learn some resilience. But again, I don't have the outrage disease that seems to have taken over our culture, regardless of your political views. It's all temporary folks! Everything is always changing. Most of the time for the better.
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Hey Big D, I sure hope your right. I'm trying to think that way but each day the news is getting worse. You do understand many many people are leaving the state. My bro lives in Kauai and no one is coming to the islands. He loves it for now but knows when his extra $600 a week goes away he will need to find work.
 
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BIGD said:
Nothing unreasonable about Newsom's guidelines. And sounds like those of you that were adamant about remote learning including live instruction/discussion are going to get some of that. I'm not looking forward to it, I'd prefer the kids could go back to school, but for middle class and up families I just don't get the outrage. It's actually a good opportunity for our very comfortable kids to learn some resilience. But again, I don't have the outrage disease that seems to have taken over our culture, regardless of your political views. It's all temporary folks! Everything is always changing. Most of the time for the better.
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The outrage is about few people abusing power and about whole bunch of sheep going along with it.
 
BIGD said:
Nothing unreasonable about Newsom's guidelines. And sounds like those of you that were adamant about remote learning including live instruction/discussion are going to get some of that. I'm not looking forward to it, I'd prefer the kids could go back to school, but for middle class and up families I just don't get the outrage. It's actually a good opportunity for our very comfortable kids to learn some resilience. But again, I don't have the outrage disease that seems to have taken over our culture, regardless of your political views. It's all temporary folks! Everything is always changing. Most of the time for the better.
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The outrage is we are asking kids to sacrifice for the sake of older Americans, when it's usually been the other way around and we bear sacrifices for our kids. Yet, the government said boo about the protests (and some even encouraged), the marijuana shops/liquor stores/home depots are open. You can't play soccer but an outdoor dance class is o.k. They lie to us about the masks, the length of lockdowns, and what the lockdowns were about and we say "o.k. can we have some more". If you think this is just short term you are kidding yourself....most public school districts cannot flip the switch on and off like that. And yes, it sucks I'm having to pay heavy duty fees for above par online learning at my kids private school....but at least he gets to do it from the comfort of our Utah condo and gets to wander out into the woods every day and have a swim in the afternoon. I worry most about the kids that will be a year behind in learning and the inequity that will result to the most vulnerable and poor among our children.
 
dad4 said:
School opening is not obvious in either direction.

If you do open schools, the school based clusters, and resulting deaths among elderly relatives, will be in the working class neighborhoods, because that’s where the high infection rates are.

If you don’t open schools, the lost educational opportunity will also be focused on the working class neighborhoods.

This is not an easy problem, and it does not have an easy solution.
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Get off the fence it's a clear and simple issue. At some point be a parent and take a stand...should kids be in school or not?
 
Eagle33 said:
With more testing you will have more cases. Let's all crawl under the rock and wait?
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No one likes to talk about the fact the US has tested the most people of any country in the world (sans China....who just puts up any ole number they want). We’ve tested over 46 Million people. That’s almost double the next closest country (Russia) who has only tested 24 Million.
 
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Grace T. said:
This has pretty much discredited at this point. Spain is accelerating again despite rigorous lockdowns and mask mandates. Sweden is disappearing despite being attacked as lax. At this point it's pretty clear that the Rona doesn't care about any government policy. You can hold onto your illusion that we can actually do something and be comfortable in the matrix, or you can take the red pill and join some of us in the ugly reality.
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You keep mentioning Sweden, but it has 3 to 4 times the deaths of Norway, Denmark & Finland, for little to no economic gain (globalization). They also trusted their citizens to be sensible, stay at home, keep distance, wash hands etc., which worked to a certain extent. Maybe their approach is right, maybe not - nobody knows yet ...

From the article
"Sweden had the highest rate of new cases of all European Union states, barring Luxembourg, in the past couple of weeks. That partly reflects that the country finally, after many false starts, has been able to ramp up testing. However, it also indicates that the the virus remains more widespread than in most countries that have implemented more stringent measures."

www.bloomberg.com

Swedish PM Defends Covid Plan as Immunity Fails to Catch On

Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said he’s in no doubt his country’s highly controversial strategy for fighting Covid-19 remains appropriate.
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Ellejustus said:
The Governor was explaining social distancing with his kids and his example was about his caregiver. How many besides Messy and Woobie have a caregiver? I love being my son and dd caregiver and I would never ever give that away to a caregiver or even pay for a caregiver. Hey, to each his own :) I have a hard time with his smile and talking about this and that and I would 100% have debated him if we were teammates in high school. Seems like a good guy to me. I know this must be really hard on his caregiver. I hope she gets a raise :)
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Why bring me into this...and what makes you think I have a caregiver for my kids? The only caregivers my kids have ever had are my wife and I as well as the occasional grandparent watching when we have gone away for a night or two. GTFOH...you have no idea what your talking about.... :rolleyes:

Why have kids if you don’t want to raise them? Our job is to make sure they turn into good people. Not judgmental, lazy, unaccountable, irresponsible drains on society.
 
Desert Hound said:
This one I always found entertaining. The people complaining about that name would not EVER go vacation in those countries. Why? Because the fact is in this world there are.....s..hole countries. They wouldn't dream of going to them. But when someone points out what they actually are? Why that is terrible.

I have been to over 40 countries...with many more to go. And for biz I send people to various countries, and some shall we say are very problematic, which is saying it gently.
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My point is that if you are going to lead, lead. Don't divide. What good can possibly come from any leader saying something like this? Say, for instance, your child's history teacher said this before a lesson. It's just not useful.
 
paytoplay said:
My kid the other day says “Trump has a fourth grade vocabulary.” We need to be reminded, lest we forget.
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The difference between you & I:

To which I'd respond...and he created a multi-billion dollar company and was elected President of the greatest Country on earth....only in America, aren't we blessed.

Instead, I'm sure you teach your kid to shit on America, like those you embrace.
 
Kicker4Life said:
No one like to talk about the fact the IS has tested the most people of any country in the world (sans China....who just puts up any ole number they want). We’ve tested over 46 Million people. That’s almost double the next closets country (Russia) who has only tested 24 Million.
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PEOPLE STOP TESTING! other facts people forget is that the death rate in italy and spain (at a minimum) is much worse than the US.
 
whatithink said:
So the choice for president is for a racist or a racist apparently. Two old white guys who having been walking the paths of power or wealth or both for decades. Just as well systemic racism is a nothing thing in either the wealth system or the political system. Two shit candidates IMO demonstrating everything that is wrong in our politics.
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Yeah...and many folks are willing to hand the country over to an old guy with early on-set (that we're all suppose to pretend isn't clearly obvious).
 
Parting comment about CoVid...for now.

When you actually research the numbers that the CDC provides, there is little affect on those without underlying conditions under the age of 70. There is almost zero affect for those under the age of 20.

Also, the Flu death numbers do not include the same underlying conditions that CoVid does but only Pneumonia and Respiratory Distress.

Unbiased link to CDC numbers both with and without underlying conditions.
www.cdc.gov

Coronavirus Disease 2019 Case Surveillance — United States ...

This report describes the most common underlying health conditions among COVID-19 cases in the United States as of May 30, 2020.
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The Outlaw said:
This isn't what liberals want. They don't want people following the rules. They don't want people like this having a skill so they can earn for themselves and think for themselves. THESE people won't vote for liberals because they know nothing should be handed to them. THESE people know they'll be paid a living wage because they're now American citizens and they'll earn it.

It's the illegal that comes here in the dead of night, working for $2 an hour and worrying about deportation everyday. THOSE are the immigrants willing to give liberals their votes.
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WTF. They can’t vote! What are you talking about?
 
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