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"those from sh!+hole countries"
This one I always found entertaining. The people complaining about that name would not EVER go vacation in those countries. Why? Because the fact is in this world there are.....s..hole countries. They wouldn't dream of going to them. But when someone points out what they actually are? Why that is terrible.

I have been to over 40 countries...with many more to go. And for biz I send people to various countries, and some shall we say are very problematic, which is saying it gently.
 
So why did outside families have to help you? What's wrong with YOUR family? I know the answer... want to see if you'll admit it.
Nothing is wrong with my family that isn’t wrong with any other family. I’m the first person in my family that could go to school full time and not have to follow crops as a migrant worker.
 
(providing once and for all lockdowns don't work....as soon as you lift them it will accelerate).
This is the part that seems rather self evident. You stop activity and cases mellow. Open up they rise. At that point the politicians want to shut down again. And then the cycle repeats itself again.

At some point we have to realize that will be the cycle. Without any vaccine on the horizon, how long will we live like this?
 
Yeah we can't have objective standards like the SAT.

UC leadership thinking to themselves....Note to self: We must water down standards even more.
First that I’ve heard of the UC system having lax admission standards! I’m certain your state school system isn’t as selective as the UC system.
 
So resisting arrest vs. not resisting arrest is fair.

Fact: Resisting arrest is what leads to police brutality and additional charges against the offender. Trust me when I say that I know this.
The penalty for resisting is not death.
 
First that I’ve heard of the UC system having lax admission standards! I’m certain your state school system isn’t as selective as the UC system.
Make no mistake about it. The AZ universities are not as selective as the UC system.

I do like to joke and say that ASU is the Harvard of the West though ;) I got that quote from a professor in a class I took at ASU. He mentioned that as he was passing out the results of his latest exam. Needless to say many in the class did not do well.
 
This is the part that seems rather self evident. You stop activity and cases mellow. Open up they rise. At that point the politicians want to shut down again. And then the cycle repeats itself again.

You would think but it's surprising still how many people are holding onto "we must do something". I'm still getting a lot of if only we weren't so selfish and just wore our masks and had some competent leadership this thing would go away in 30 days. Our local school board president suggested to me that we shut down for 30 days for everything and people stopped going out to play basketball and we just all stocked up on supplies, we could eliminate the virus. I did my schtick: would you shut down the free lunch program you offered hard hit kids during the lockdowns? Would you shut the southern border to even American citizens? You prepared to suppress protests (whether left or right) with force? Her response back is if we'd only unite together we could overcome anything.
 
Nothing is wrong with my family that isn’t wrong with any other family. I’m the first person in my family that could go to school full time and not have to follow crops as a migrant worker.

So your family chose to have you and then leave you with family/friends so you didn't have to change schools a lot like millions of military personnel?
 
Make no mistake about it. The AZ universities are not as selective as the UC system.

I do like to joke and say that ASU is the Harvard of the West though ;) I got that quote from a professor in a class I took at ASU. He mentioned that as he was passing out the results of his latest exam. Needless to say many in the class did not do well.
My best friend flunked out of ASU. He would have never been accepted to any UC. Hell, Colorado kicked him out because they thought I took his SAT’s for him. ASU didn’t care!
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The penalty for resisting is not death.
Nobody should ever be killed for resisting arrest. We agree.

But if no one resisted, there wouldn’t be any deaths.

Your point is an excuse. Yes more Blacks are killed per capita than Whites who resist BUT the unfortunate FACT is that Blacks commit more crimes than any other race. This isn’t racist, it’s a fact. There is no debating it. Sorry.

There is a saying about resisting arrest:

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Stupid games do not care about race.
 
Nobody should ever be killed for resisting arrest. We agree.

But if no one resisted, there wouldn’t be any deaths.

Your point is an excuse. Yes more Blacks are killed per capita than Whites who resist BUT the unfortunate FACT is that Blacks commit more crimes than any other race. This isn’t racist, it’s a fact. There is no debating it. Sorry.

There is a saying about resisting arrest:

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Stupid games do not care about race.
You really are from Mars.
 
Yup, Israel is the outlier and a real head scratcher since it looks like it's outbreak originated in the high school and middle schools but it's also not the most disturbing news from around the world right now (though even taking it into account it says nothing about the elementary schools).

3 other countries in addition to Israel have a very high acceleration rate. Australia: which raises a real prospect for us of a winter bump and this despite that Australia has been widely praised for its strategy of shutting down interprovince transport. Japan: which has been widely praised for it's universal mask usage and which (unlike us) has some really good masks (not bandanas and t shirts) which seems to show universal mask usage while it may help is not sufficient to contain outbreaks. And most disturbing: Spain particularly in the Barcelona area, which has universal mask usage (again not bandanas or t shirts which are illegal there), is still not fully open, and which had one of the strictest lockdowns in the world (providing once and for all lockdowns don't work....as soon as you lift them it will accelerate).

Spain is critically important in the coming days. If they start to look like our sunbelt, it blows a hole in the theory some of us have been pushing that the virus eventually dies out because it died out in Sweden. If this is just a bump taking in place in areas that didn't have a full burn (a mini US) then o.k. there's still some hope in our near future. But if even a portion of Spain goes out of control again it means the burn out theory probably holds no water.

Which leaves only the Vitamin D/weather theory standing. That theory says the reason why LA wasn't hit very hard at the same time as NY and Spain and Italy was because when the initial outbreak happened we had nice weather and were out and about and getting our sun and Vitamin D and not indoors. The reason why Mexico, the tropics, Japan, our South, SoCal and Spain are getting hard hit is because it's very hot and people aren't hanging out in the sun. Norway and Denmark similarly have never had a mask requirement and in removing the lockdowns have not yet had a resurgence and Sweden died out on its own....is it because right now they have an abundence of sunlight and temperatures are nice outside?....same with Canada. The counterfactual to this theory is New York City, of course (or maybe its a combination of weather and burn out).

But where does that leave us? It means for Socal under either theory the worst should be over by the end of September. If the weather theory holds true we might escape the worst of a second wave but the northern US will have hell to pay as will the nordic countries and northern Europe. It means we are at a point where all containment measures are an utter failure, and we have to decide between perpetual lockdown and re lockdowns or just going forward and taking the risk (knowing the overwhelming cost).

What a horrible, awful no good week in a horrible, awful no good year.
Interesting that you don’t hear about these surges in other countries on the mainstream news. I wonder why
 
First that I’ve heard of the UC system having lax admission standards! I’m certain your state school system isn’t as selective as the UC system.

Only lax admissions for "minorities". Kind of like the NFL's Rooney Rule. We need to interview more black coaches because only 65% of the players are black. Unacceptable, Dre.
 
Life isn't equal. Life isn't fair. Stop crying about everybody not having the same things. If you can't compete, you can't compete. Equal opportunity exists if you want it. Many don't. But I can see why you'd sprint from factual data... doesn't support your bullshit argument.
It's all about competing in America, if you want to actually be a productive citizen. America is all about competition... Internal assessment of one self should rise above any blaming of a false narrative for systematic racism. A term that most don't believe even exists. If daddy can't stay home and tuck in his family read a book or just plain ole talk with little johnny/karen their kids are already falling behind the curve. That's nobodies fault but their own.
 
You would think but it's surprising still how many people are holding onto "we must do something". I'm still getting a lot of if only we weren't so selfish and just wore our masks and had some competent leadership this thing would go away in 30 days. Our local school board president suggested to me that we shut down for 30 days for everything and people stopped going out to play basketball and we just all stocked up on supplies, we could eliminate the virus. I did my schtick: would you shut down the free lunch program you offered hard hit kids during the lockdowns? Would you shut the southern border to even American citizens? You prepared to suppress protests (whether left or right) with force? Her response back is if we'd only unite together we could overcome anything.
Agree somewhat.

The shutting down was always about flattening the curve so that hospitals didn't get over whelmed. I don't hear that expression so much anymore. It was always known that it wouldn't go away. The problem, to me, is that this message didn't resonate and hasn't resonated. Everyone obviously wants it to go away, but that's just not happening. The plus side is that treatments seem to be getting better. Progress is being made on a vaccine and/or treatment plans.

The current problem seems to be that a huge part of the population have taken on board the message that if you are old and/or have underlying conditions then it can kill you. If you are neither of those, then you might get sick but should be fine ... so reverted to pre-COVID19 behavior once the shutdown ended. That precipitated spikes all over the place. A reopening strategy which allows business to reopen, schools to open and is 100% supported by masks, hand washing, social distancing, etc. would go a long way to keeping the curve flat. Its not going away, so everyone should be looking to 100% support keeping that curve flat. If we can achieve that, then we can get moving again, albeit with a new normal.

I don't fear a spike come winter TBH, that'll happen just as it does every year with the flu. I fear a mutation that moves from those most vulnerable to die now, to a wider set.
 
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