No Soccer - Bad / No School - Catastrophic!

My wife and dd think Gavin is handsome. I'm trying to figure all this out. It's so confusing. He knows a lot of people. I am praying for Gavin to make the right decisions for me, my family and everyone else in California. In fact, this is my state as much as it is his. He's Nocal and I'm SoCal :) Super close in age we both are.

While Newsom later reflected that he did not have an easy childhood, he attended kindergarten and first grade at Ecole Notre Dame Des Victoires, a French American bilingual school in San Francisco. He eventually transferred because of severe dyslexia that still affects him. His dyslexia has made it difficult for him to write, spell, read and work with numbers. Throughout his schooling, Newsom had to rely on a combination of audiobooks, informal verbal instruction, and digests, and to this day, Newsom prefers to interpret documents and reports through audio.

First off, Gavin seems like a cool guy trying to make it on this planet. Looks like he and I both hated school when we were young and had handicaps. We both love baseball. One of my customers is trying to past a contractors test and he has what Gavin has. I bet this online stuff is right down his ally. Texas and Florida seem open with mask on and social distancing and California is on high alert lock down and they have a spike in cases and all that. I will respect and follow the Governors decision today. I'm sure we will all have some time to share how we don;t agree and that's ok. I know many peaceful people who are not too happy who just might do some protesting after today.
 
Grace T. said:
More school districts our way announcing remote only: Simi, Moorpark, Oxnard, Santa Barbara Simi's weird....teachers will be teaching from the classroom (and can bring their children to work). From the quotes being reported, it's very clear there's a timeline emerging. Trump made his comments about schools and the unions came out against it. Someone in state health made a decision (either based on 1 of these factors if you are cynical, or serendipity if you are not) and the governor while all this was happening signed off on it. They started by notifying the major districts (LA, SF, SD) and have been going around calling the smaller districts. Perhaps because the governor's unique hatred of the OC, some of those calls have yet to be made and will be made tomorrow am before the announcement tomorrow. It also lends credence to rumors it may not be state wide....just the major counties affected by the Rona so Jefferson might have escaped.

Take it with a grain of salt....it's pretty clear someone at the state is making phone calls and this is coming from the top down but all other details are speculative.
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You guys just need to stand up. If Cal can designate itself a sanctuary state and doesn't need to follow Fed laws, why not have counties in Cal say screw you Sacremento...we will have schools open.
 
Desert Hound said:
You guys just need to stand up. If Cal can designate itself a sanctuary state and doesn't need to follow Fed laws, why not have counties in Cal say screw you Sacremento...we will have schools open.
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The Federal government needs CA money. CA is self-sustainable and doesn’t need the Feds. CA could be it’s own country and that gives CA lots of leverage.
 
MacDre said:
No. I’m saying you have adequate data. Plus, I’m too lazy to search for data that I reviewed 25 years ago in Sociology class. But, the conclusion you reached about the crime data you have is hasty, not supported by the data, and is racist because you arbitrarily conclude that “this is completely consistent with a racially disparate crime problem.” Analysis paralysis and conclusory garbage is what your conclusion consist of.
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Good morning everyone. I had to take a brake from Politics as I had found myself getting angry...but decided to calm down after realizing I am not going to change the world. Decided to come visit SoCal again.

What a gem this thread is. Seems like I have a couple people here who have no idea what they are talking about. The above seems to be one. Another one @EOTL is radicalized terrorist. And the other, my favorite, @messy .

Any guesses on who can act civilized and who will resort to insults before I get started? I already highlighted a key quote above.

Oh, and btw, before I do and embarrassing as this is, I voted for Obama in 2008, did not vote in 2012, Trump in 2016, and will be voting Trump in 2020. I consider myself middle-right. If Democrats had not gone so far left, I would also consider a GOOD Democratic candidate however that ship has sailed for the time being.

Ding Ding Ding
 
MARsSPEED said:
Good morning everyone. I had to take a brake from Politics as I had found myself getting angry...but decided to calm down after realizing I am not going to change the world. Decided to come visit SoCal again.

What a gem this thread is. Seems like I have a couple people here who have no idea what they are talking about. The above seems to be one. Another one @EOTL is radicalized terrorist. And the other, my favorite, @messy .

Any guesses on who can act civilized and who will resort to insults before I get started? I already highlighted a key quote above.

Oh, and btw, before I do and embarrassing as this is, I voted for Obama in 2008, did not vote in 2012, Trump in 2016, and will be voting Trump in 2020. I consider myself middle-right. If Democrats had not gone so far left, I would also consider a GOOD Democratic candidate however that ship has sailed for the time being.

Ding Ding Ding
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Do you like me? Are you hitting on me?
 
MacDre said:
The Federal government needs CA money. CA is self-sustainable and doesn’t need the Feds. CA could be it’s own country and that gives CA lots of leverage.
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I think Cali could be it's own country and was rich. Just wait Dre, the folks leaving are leaving with all their money too. Businesses are leaving and folks like Woobie too. Woobie has some money ((nothing wrong with that and you have options)) and he's looking at going back to Dallas. So, California will not be top dog imo if they pick winners and losers. This is bad Dre and it's only going to get worse I'm afraid.
 
I’m very pleased that Biden will win...probably in a relative landslide.

My wife and kid got tested last night for travel purposes...took 15 minutes to get their results (both negative)...and he’s been playing soccer with a fairly large group every day for months.

Wear masks. Pretty simple stuff, right? Why not?
 
Ellejustus said:
I think Cali could be it's own country and was rich. Just wiat Dre, the folks leaving are leaving with all their money. Business are leaving and folks like Woobie too. Woobie has some money ((nothing wrong with that and I you have options)) and he's looking at going back to Dallas. So, California will not be top dog imo if they pick winners and losers. This is bad Dre and it's only going to get worse I'm afraid.
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The idiots, including the rich republicans I know, all said in ‘09 after Obama took office that CA is going to seed, they won’t raise their kids here, etc.
That all went out the window pretty quickly...this is the one of opportunity baby! Not a great place to retire though...
 
dad4 said:
And out comes the racism accusation, just like clockwork. But no data. :(
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This Stanford study reflects racial profiling. Their key was stating data showed traffic stops equaled out as it got darker and the driver couldn't be identified when pulled over.
www.cnn.com

Researchers studied nearly 100 million traffic stops and found black motorists are more likely to be pulled over

A study of nearly 100 million traffic stops from around the US has concluded that, on average, black drivers are 20% more likely to get pulled over than white drivers.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

The New Jersey study says no profiling. Their key was that no one was being arrested, just the speed of the car was being checked and who was driving was identified by camera.
www.manhattan-institute.org

Profiling Myth Smashed

Yet Bush Justice Dept. still bashes N.J. law enforcement According to a new study, black drivers on the New Jersey Turnpike are twice as likely to speed as white drivers, and are even more dominant among drivers breaking 90 miles per hour. This finding demolishes the myth of racial profiling...
www.manhattan-institute.org www.manhattan-institute.org


How do we explain the difference? Should we even bother. What happens if we do a study on education level and criminal behavior and find out that those with college degrees or are higher educated commit less crimes.

Education and Crime - Criminal Justice - IResearchNet

This sample research paper on education and crime features: 6300+ words (24 pages), an outline, APA format in-text citations and a bibliography with 21 sources...
criminal-justice.iresearchnet.com criminal-justice.iresearchnet.com
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So if racism occurs in our education system, if schools in poorer areas of the county give lesser education, then the data says more crime will occur for those individuals.

My belief, which slowly evolves as we have these discussions, is it isn't just one thing, but a accumulation of things that have lead us to where we are now. Which leads me to our topic at hand as we start remote schooling. From the reports I've read poor and minorities are worse off with home schooling. This pandemic hurts them more. Remote learning hurts them more. We need to get kids back into school and find a way to keep teachers as safe as possible.
 
messy said:
The idiots, including the rich republicans I know, all said in ‘09 after Obama took office that CA is going to seed, they won’t raise their kids here, etc.
That all went out the window pretty quickly...this is the one of opportunity baby! Not a great place to retire though...
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3 Out of the Top 10 TOP Donors went to the Republicans. 7 Out 10 went to Democrats. I can count the rest for if need by but you will be dissapointed

Factual Web Link:
www.opensecrets.org

Who are the Biggest Donors?

Who are the biggest donors in the 2020 election cycle? See the details.
www.opensecrets.org www.opensecrets.org
 
messy said:
The idiots, including the rich republicans I know, all said in ‘09 after Obama took office that CA is going to seed, they won’t raise their kids here, etc.
That all went out the window pretty quickly...this is the one of opportunity baby! Not a great place to retire though...
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I remember that. I voted for Obama in my heart. I was not a Mavericks fan. This time is very different Messy. Both right and left are leaving. Some just can;t work their lives and it's not political. Some are leaving because they have fear. Some are leaving because they have to have school choices and actually classes. Also, sports is huge and no sports here unless your into water sports. I see you support breaking rules Messy. That's a bad example.
 
Justafan said:
Honest answer, that’s a weak talking point. Yes, that’s his record and that’s undeniable. However, that was 40 years ago. He has evolved to the point that minorities trust him. He’s also willing to admit when he’s wrong, like he did with the China travel ban.

So are you with me on the Abbot tests and sanitizer fans?
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Many minorities think the crime bills that were written by Joe "You Aint Black" Biden were pretty racist as well. More like 25 years ago. So at what point would you say hes not racist? After he said poor kids were just as smart as white kids? That was last year. Right after he said only real black people are democrat? That was less than 2 months ago. Give all the excuses you want, but his mentor was a KKK leader Robert Byrd a democrat that voted against the civil rights act and the voting rights act, never switched parties like the myth people claim, and used derogatory terms like the "N" word well into the 2000's.

but if you want to switch topics to tests and sanitizers what is your question?
 
MSK357 said:
Many minorities think the crime bills that were written by Joe "You Aint Black" Biden were pretty racist as well. More like 25 years ago. So at what point would you say hes not racist? After he said poor kids were just as smart as white kids? That was last year. Right after he said only real black people are democrat? That was less than 2 months ago. Give all the excuses you want, but his mentor was a KKK leader Robert Byrd a democrat that voted against the civil rights act and the voting rights act, never switched parties like the myth people claim, and used derogatory terms like the "N" word well into the 2000's.

but if you want to switch topics to tests and sanitizers what is your question?
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40 years ago, 25 years ago.....Nick Cannon just had to apologize 2 days later after his racists comments and all is forgotten
 
Look at this way. If a white person is saying sorry for being a part of the racist system in the world they created and they ask for forgiveness, then their the one's who were the problem. The very white people on your side now were the very white people holding you back. Now these white people are telling you all the white people are just like them. That is BS!!!! Not all white people are created the same, let me tell you. Gavin Newsom has four generations under him. t got $200,000,000 to invest. These are all nice things and I'm so happy for those who have wealth.
 
Joe Biden is a fossil, and he’s still going to beat dotard trump by historic margins—we’re talking ‘84 numbers. What a massive failure! 4 years of misery and shitshow, culminating in the collapse of Sports?!? Biden is going to have to clean up a big mess. Why does every republican administration end with the country in ruins?
 
Ellejustus said:
I think Cali could be it's own country and was rich. Just wait Dre, the folks leaving are leaving with all their money too. Businesses are leaving and folks like Woobie too. Woobie has some money ((nothing wrong with that and you have options)) and he's looking at going back to Dallas. So, California will not be top dog imo if they pick winners and losers. This is bad Dre and it's only going to get worse I'm afraid.
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Everytime one door closes another one opens. I’m sure Woobie will like Padre Beach. My wife did her residency at Parkland in Dallas. So, lots of places losing people to California as well. Plus, loosing a few folks could improve traffic.
 
Here's my feelings on school closures as it is a concern on the East Coast as well.

Who benefits the most from school closings?
Middle-upper class suburban families, majority is white. Parents can stay home, work, and supervise they're children to make sure they log on while being comfortable.

Who gets hurt the most?
Lower income inner-city and lower income suburban neighborhoods, majority black and latino. Unfortunately these parents cannot afford to stay home and have to make a choice. Those who go to work will likely have kids that don't attend online classes. There are also likely other reasons parents don't enforce attending schools.

This is systematic failure across the United States and a horrible idea. Why would we close schools when Walmart and Target are open? There has not been a major outbreak of those employees of note. The outbreaks have occurred where bars, clubs, and restaurants are open at full capacity as well protests.

Kids don't need to wear mask. CoVid is far less dangerous than the Flu. Teachers' should wear masks and keep hand sanitizer with them at all times. FYI, the lowest infection rates are in extended suburbs, rural areas and cities less than 100,000.
 
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