No Soccer - Bad / No School - Catastrophic!

Our other neighbor Las Virgenes USD (in LA County) is also announcing tonight remote learning only (they just told the teachers). The local paper on twitter is reporting is this might be happening because the governor is giving them all cover tomorrow shutting down all the schools in California (including charters, privates and homeschool cooperatives).
 
MacDre said:
This isn’t applicable because @EOTL IS winning the argument. But, I do get your point IF @EOTL wasn’t winning.
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Right, in your echo chamber. Kind of like, knowing public schooling falls short and Charters work much better...but call it something else due to a lack of principle...oh, and lack of stones.
 
Newsom's making an announcement about schools tomorrow at noon. I will double down he's closing schools state wide like some have mentioned. And no, I don't agree with the decision. Just relaying info I heard on the news
 
Just out of curiosity, I looked up the charter high school in our area and with the exception of a few everyone was over $70,000, but the majority were over $100k and a lot over $120k. Public schools in our area had similar compensation.
 
watfly said:
Crap, now I'm missing a box of tissues.

I'll kidding aside, we need to provide reasonable protections for our teachers. Just like at my work, we've had to improvise to protect our employees, some of which are exposed to dozens of strangers everyday. Let's not look for excuses on how something can't be done, lets look for solutions on how it can be done.
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Great sentiment, but that's not how unions, thus dems, roll.
 
gkmom said:
Newsom's making an announcement about schools tomorrow at noon. I will double down he's closing schools state wide like some have mentioned. And no, I don't agree with the decision. Just relaying info I heard on the news
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Really, you had to mention that. I couldn't live in ignorant bliss for one more day that my kids would be physically back in school in the fall as choice offered by their school districts.
 
MacDre said:
What part do you disagree with? I thought he substantiated each allegation. Which allegation is baseless? Folks need to stop trying to minimize and trivialize what’s going on. I think many are uncomfortable with how normalized racism is and are uncomfortable with how @EOTL eloquently points out these aggressions. White Silence is Violence.
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Perhaps I consider “what is going on” to be significant, but focus on different elements.

I’m not silent. I just disagree with you. I believe we have a very serious problem with urban violence, and a second serious problem with police militarization.

I do not believe the police problem can fairly be called racism, because the number of deaths in police custody mirrors the number of violent crime convictions by race. If the problem was racist police, then I would expect one ethnic group would have more deaths per police encounter than another. This is not the case.

Now, is it possible to have a civil discussion on that? So far, I’d have to say no. Someone will call someone racist, and the discussion will never happen.
 
MicPaPa said:
Great sentiment, but that's not how unions, thus dems, roll.
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Here's the rest of my rant on the school thread. How appropriate.

Desert Hound you stated we should not think of what's not possible, but think of what is possible. I've been harping on this since April, but why can't we get those 10-15 minute abbot tests at every school in America? We test ALL kids and staff daily, just like the do at the White House, military, and EVERY professional sports league, etc. You test positive, you go home and isolate. Are our kids not worth it? Harvard indicated that nationwide testing (not just schools) like this would cost 100 billion.

We've spent 6-7 trillion so far and we are about to spend another 1-3 trillion by the end of this month with another stimulus bill. 100 billion is pocket change! Also, by now, we should know everything about how covid travels in the air with and without masks. We should know, to the f'n millimeter, where to place the fans, suction fans, plexiglass, infrared, lasers, disinfectant, fuck I don't know I'm not a scientist, but you get the drift. And Grace, when I asked "where are America's F'ing studies" this is what I meant. And we should know this for airplanes, hotel lobbies, office buildings, etc. We should also have N-95 masks coming out of dispensers at every highway gas station bathroom.

The lack of imagination and vision form this administration is simply tragic, and we are all going to pay (my economic rant coming later). Arizona Unified is experimenting with fans that dispense sanitizers (I saw this yesterday), Arizona State & Berkeley are coming up with faster saliva tests, we have a guy in his garage telling us how effective masks are. https://www.12news.com/article/news...sting/75-0a512c66-8271-4cd7-9eca-1a7dce4de884, https://www.foxnews.com/us/schools-utilize-power-fans-to-combat-covid-19

This kind of stuff is the federal government's responsibility and it's a shame they didn't start this way back when.
 
watfly said:
Just out of curiosity, I looked up the charter high school in our area and with the exception of a few everyone was over $70,000, but the majority were over $100k and a lot over $120k. Public schools in our area had similar compensation.
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I was only talking of East L.A.
 
MicPaPa said:
Bingo! I'll do it on my own dime, just want my dime back.
How is it a handout if it's ones own money? We just disagree on the way our money is being spent.

Me: I don't mind spending our money on the truly helpless.
You: Don't mind spending our money on the clueless.

And there folks is the rub.
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I told you it was about the money! Well there's a lot of shit I disagree with also, but if I want something different than what's being offered, I either pay for it myself or move somewhere else where it is offered.
 
Our local paper is confirming. Las Virginese was set to reopen, rising cases be damned. State health department won't allow them to reopen. Paper says the superintendent "sounded pained" on the phone. This is all the governor which means private schools won't escape either and he's about to crack down on new home schooling for those trying to flee the public schools.
 
Ellejustus said:
Who said the N word? I missed that and that word sucks. it would be good to rid that word for good btw. No more music with N word. All kids love rap and the N word is used a lot. I think that would help. Shame on anyone who uses that word. The second word that needs to go is bastard.
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Take a wild guess.
 
dad4 said:
Perhaps I consider “what is going on” to be significant, but focus on different elements.

I’m not silent. I just disagree with you. I believe we have a very serious problem with urban violence, and a second serious problem with police militarization.

I do not believe the police problem can fairly be called racism, because the number of deaths in police custody mirrors the number of violent crime convictions by race. If the problem was racist police, then I would expect one ethnic group would have more deaths per police encounter than another. This is not the case.

Now, is it possible to have a civil discussion on that? So far, I’d have to say no. Someone will call someone racist, and the discussion will never happen.
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There really isn’t much to discuss. Urban violence is a problem and is the direct result of racist policies of the past and present. Equality for all would solve the problem.
 
MacDre said:
There really isn’t much to discuss. Urban violence is a problem and is the direct result of racist policies of the past and present. Equality for all would solve the problem.
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I guess that explanation works for you.

To me, it is a ridiculous oversimplification that completely disregards the self-perpetuating nature of urban violence and weakened family structure.

It also completely ignores the point that was raised.
( Deaths in police custody does not have a racial element once you factor in violent crime rates. )

Like I said. It becomes impossible to discuss these things, but not because there is no point of disagreement.
 
On a call for our private middle school reopening plans. Their elaborate reopening plan is falling apart, particularly given the governor has put baseline testing into tier 4 and prohibited it tier 4 tests while there is a reporting lag. The panic among parents is palpabale.
 
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