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[kickingandscreaming]

Actually it is good for a history teacher or someone else to point out which countries are crap holes. You can use that to compare and contrast why certain cultures do much better than others. The rule of law comes to mind. Why certain types of political systems lead to terrible corruption, etc.

Much better than looking at some crappy countries and then listen to the teacher tell my kids all cultures are equal or just as good as each other, when we know that is not the case. There is a reason 3rd world countries are 3rd world. And there is a reason why countries move into 1st world status. Pretending it is different does nobody any good.

I won't argue with presenting facts, comparing, contrasting, etc. However, I just don't see any value in the derogatory name calling. The same things can be taught with civility.

 

[gotothebushes]

I did. Sounded as honest as the first time through.

You don't think 3rd world countries are in that state due to culture, political systems, etc?

Or you like to pretend differently?

Start with Somalia for instance. Contrast and compare with the US. If that is too close to home, compare and contrast with lets say Italy.

Start with how they treat women, gays, religious minorities. You go first.

Actually my apologies misspoke! I see your point!

 

[MacDre]

Yeah, his point is a bit BS or just blatant broad brush. The Irish, esp. the Catholics, that came over as indentured servants were uneducated and piss poor. The very large numbers, again mostly Catholic, who came over from the late 1840s fleeing the famine in Ireland and through the next few decades were also pretty uneducated and piss poor. The Irish did clearly encounter prejudice and discrimination with the infamous, "No Irish Need Apply", tag line in documented records from the 1840s through to the last known in 1909.

The Protestant Irish tended to be better educated and had some means. The only "advantage" the Irish had was in being white, which allowed them to assimilate quicker. It still took a couple of generations.

Many of my relatives in England live in Brixton. Relatives tell me that when they arrived from the West Indies there were signs that said No Pets, Irish, and blacks posted .

1981 Brixton riot - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Grace T.]

Ugh. It's 19 pages and on the 3rd it states the document "and is not exhaustive". I need the Reader's Digest condensed version.

I remember when y'all said my middle school's reopening plan looked horrible and like a prison. It's 1/3 of this document's length. Ahhh....the good old days when kid's prison were what we had to look forward to.

 

[Justafan]

Agree. The first part of fixing a problem is admitting there is a problem rather than blame the past.

I just don’t know if anyone will actually admit to the problem(s). It’s just much easier to make excuses and point the finger at someone else.

Exactly, Mars, you Chiefs and Outlaw have just been describing Trump's base to a "T." Bunch of f'n low life deplorable losers who couldn't hack it in America's free market. They lost and now they have the balls to blame illegals, libs, and dems for all their problems. And since they're White, they also have the balls to DEMAND handouts. Bring back coal, force companies to lose money and bring back manufacturing to my home town so I can have a job. I'm glad you guys have been able to identify these losers.

Yes, outlaw, they should ALL look in the mirror before they blame anybody else for their problems. I agree.

 

[gotothebushes]

Now you're speaking my language. Probably a mudshark and the baby daddy is black.

Mudshark? Really! Easier to say interracial dating? Is there a difference?

 

[whatithink]

Many of my relatives in England live in Brixton. Relatives tell me that when they arrived from the West Indies there were signs that said No Pets, Irish, and blacks posted .

1981 Brixton riot - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yes, the Irish had the same thing there, but for longer. Google the "punch cartoon irish" and images and you'll see how the Irish were portrayed in the British media and/or to the British people - nothing subtle.

 

[Justafan]

I once had a crim professor tell me the death penalty didn't serve as a good deterrent for committing murders. I raised my hand and told him I could think of at least ONE person that would be deterred. He made me leave for the day. Fucking libtard.

Couldn't go through with it huh? Once a pussy, always a pussy!

 

[gotothebushes]

Now you're speaking my language. Probably a mudshark and the baby daddy is black.

Interracial people and couples is what Makes American Great!!

 

[MacDre]

Here's some more tripping for you, from 1976, The Black Irish of Monserrat.

Or how it began in the late 1600s, To Hell or Barbados

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This makes sense and is consistent with my history from the West Indies. I have a Scottish grandfather that I think had royal blood because of my family commonage property in the Bahamas.

Windermere Island - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Hey at @EJ, I know some Scots had it good. Did some Scots have it bad too?

 

[Justafan]

This one I always found entertaining. The people complaining about that name would not EVER go vacation in those countries. Why? Because the fact is in this world there are.....s..hole countries. They wouldn't dream of going to them. But when someone points out what they actually are? Why that is terrible.

I have been to over 40 countries...with many more to go. And for biz I send people to various countries, and some shall we say are very problematic, which is saying it gently.

Hello, Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico . . . The problem is not that they are 3rd world countries or "shitholes," it's that Trump, and apparently you, think that all the people coming from there are "shitholes." And just as an FYI, 3rd world status does not mean it's a "shithole" culture.

 

[gotothebushes]

Hello, Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico . . . The problem is not that they are 3rd world countries or "shitholes," it's that Trump, and apparently you, think that all the people coming from there are "shitholes." And just as an FYI, 3rd world status does not mean it's a "shithole" culture.

Well said!

 

[MacDre]

Yes, the Irish had the same thing there, but for longer. Google the "punch cartoon irish" and images and you'll see how the Irish were portrayed in the British media and/or to the British people - nothing subtle.

So fucked up!

 

[Justafan]

The most cowardly, un-American attitude I have seen in a while. Your mistake waiting on the government to save you. Canada is nice this time of year.

Relax, Hammock. I think you missed the word "IF." And you're way too uptight.

 

[Grace T.]

Hello, Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico . . . The problem is not that they are 3rd world countries or "shitholes," it's that Trump, and apparently you, think that all the people coming from there are "shitholes." And just as an FYI, 3rd world status does not mean it's a "shithole" culture.

Errr....my folks are from Peru and Mexico. We're proud of our culture and la raza, we still speak the lengua, my folks still go to all the local restaurants and hangout with their generation and reminsice about the old days, they still wave their flags during the world cup. They miss their homelands. But they were part of the educated elite over there and still fled their shitholes. Now granted, my father wouldn't describe his country as a shithole. He left that to my brothers and me when we visited the joint when I was 6 and we all came down with something serious we suspect was cholera. He reserves the term "shithole" for Chile.

 

[Ellejustus]

This makes sense and is consistent with my history from the West Indies. I have a Scottish grandfather that I think had royal blood because of my family commonage property in the Bahamas.

Windermere Island - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Hey at @EJ, I know some Scots had it good. Did some Scots have it bad too?

I saw the movie Brave heart and the warrior music brings life into me. I thought the Scots had to pay the king taxes. I see the Governor from Cali has some Scottish blood too. I might be Irish now that I think about it. My biological mama last name is Kirk so I went with Scottish but my wife thinks maybe Irish. I will take the test to find out. Plus @Dre, my son was born on Saint Patrick's Day so that could be a sign and I feel lucky these days.

 

[Justafan]

Errr....my folks are from Peru and Mexico. We're proud of our culture and la raza, we still speak the lengua, my folks still go to all the local restaurants and hangout with their generation and reminsice about the old days, they still wave their flags during the world cup. They miss their homelands. But they were part of the educated elite over there and still fled their shitholes. Now granted, my father wouldn't describe his country as a shithole. He left that to my brothers and me when we visited the joint when I was 6 and we all came down with something serious we suspect was cholera. He reserves the term "shithole" for Chile.

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[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Mudshark? Really! Easier to say interracial dating? Is there a difference?

You tell me. I had a black buddy tell me that's the term they use for white women that chase black guys.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Couldn't go through with it huh? Once a pussy, always a pussy!

Couldn't go through with what, dummy?

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Interracial people and couples is what Makes American Great!!

Hey... if the father sticks around, I certainly don't care about interracial. Her father might... but that's his problem.